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Written by ivanz83 on 11.02.2017 at 15:47
If we talk about pure music, then for me, music is self-sufficient and is language - it only Shostakovich, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart.
But the song, it must be a symbiosis of text and music. In this conjunction the song comes to life.
Otherwise, why bother to sing? I agree that the songs are different, some are necessary for clubs and dancing. Here, the text is not important. But I do not take these songs, they are blank.
And the songs of the "slot" resonate with me, causing a lot of emotion. And the music I like. I understand that the professionals might have something to dislike.
Although I am 7 years studied music literacy (long ago it was) . And I listen to the music of "slot" with pleasure. Perhaps, it is inexplicable.
Vocals for me are another instrument. They add layers of melody or texture to the rest of the music. One can't understand the majority of black or death metal lyrics without having to look at them in a booklet or a website and some bands don't even publish their lyrics so I don't consider the meanings as especially important in general.
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ivanz83
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11.02.2017 - 17:24Rating: 10
Written by [user id=4365] on 11.02.2017 at 16:04
Vocals for me are another instrument. They add layers of melody or texture to the rest of the music. One can't understand the majority of black or death metal lyrics without having to look at them in a booklet or a website and some bands don't even publish their lyrics so I don't consider the meanings as especially important in general.
I agree that vocals is a musical instrument. But the lyrics, it's something else.
I see no reason to arrange the dispute. We have a different perception of the songs. And that is great. There is so much music and songs, everyone chooses for himself what he wants.
I made my choice. You made your choice.
In one of the songs says:
"Пусть каждый сам из песенных строчек
Выбирает, что "очень" и "не очень", короче,
Сам для себя среди многоточий
Выбирает и мочит, как хочет. "
I do not even know how to translate it ... The idea is that everyone should make their own choices in their lives.
This is the song "Мочит, Как Хочет!" from the album "Septima".
I remind everyone that we are still discussing this particular album
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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13.02.2017 - 03:12Rating: 3
This is absolute dog shit. Howah.
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Jaeryd Nihil's Maw
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Written by Vyalikov on 11.02.2017 at 11:55
The main thing that russians know english
They understand english track lyrics for about 65-90%.
Unfortunately russian lyrics (on this site) is understandable for 5-10%
or really ZERO ?
So I expect that about 90-95% english-speaking audience can't understand the meaning of this tracks while listening.
I honestly don't care about the lyrical meaning of a song until I've already decided that I've liked it musically first. I don't even pay attention to English lyrics unless I like the song, and I listen to way too much stuff and too many things in too many languages to give a shit about what every single song I listen to says. As JOOE said, a bad song is a bad song, regardless of how good the lyrics are. If I wanted a good poem, I'd go read a poetry book, not listen to a really average rock song.
Anyway, I find it odd that you are so focused on the fact that I mentioned that it was in Russian, as if I had put a major emphasis on that point--which I didn't. I said that I've heard a million things like this before, and merely mentioned that the only difference between this band and thousands of others is that their songs are in Russian. Which is true--that's the only thing that makes them stand out. The thing is, if the only thing that makes a band unique is its your language, then that doesn't say much for the quality of the music.
But, to each their own. People can like things as much or as little as they want to. You like this band a lot, I don't, and that's all there is to it.
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13.02.2017 - 22:59Rating: 10
Written by Jaeryd on 13.02.2017 at 21:58
Written by Vyalikov on 11.02.2017 at 11:55
The main thing that russians know english
They understand english track lyrics for about 65-90%.
Unfortunately russian lyrics (on this site) is understandable for 5-10%
or really ZERO ?
So I expect that about 90-95% english-speaking audience can't understand the meaning of this tracks while listening.
I honestly don't care about the lyrical meaning of a song until I've already decided that I've liked it musically first. I don't even pay attention to English lyrics unless I like the song, and I listen to way too much stuff and too many things in too many languages to give a shit about what every single song I listen to says. As JOOE said, a bad song is a bad song, regardless of how good the lyrics are. If I wanted a good poem, I'd go read a poetry book, not listen to a really average rock song.
Anyway, I find it odd that you are so focused on the fact that I mentioned that it was in Russian, as if I had put a major emphasis on that point--which I didn't. I said that I've heard a million things like this before, and merely mentioned that the only difference between this band and thousands of others is that their songs are in Russian. Which is true--that's the only thing that makes them stand out. The thing is, if the only thing that makes a band unique is its your language, then that doesn't say much for the quality of the music.
But, to each their own. People can like things as much or as little as they want to. You like this band a lot, I don't, and that's all there is to it.
So Am right really zero.. )
Melodies and rhythm are always repeating in all songs. You cant create new melody without copying parts from another melodies.
Now good song is good only then peeople say that it's good
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Jaeryd Nihil's Maw
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Written by Vyalikov on 13.02.2017 at 22:59
So Am right really zero.. )
Melodies and rhythm are always repeating in all songs. You cant create new melody without copying parts from another melodies.
Now good song is good only then peeople say that it's good
Sorry, but there are literally 75 billion possible melodies that are only 10 notes long, as shown in this article. Not only that, but in terms of timbre, texture, atmosphere, dynamics, and beats, among many other things, songs can vary wildly, and there is always room for innovation--or at least for presenting a new take on old ideas. All in all, we won't really run out of original ideas for a long time. Any band that isn't something interesting and new is, in my opinion, not really worth listening to. This album treads little to no new ground, not in the realm of metal, and not in the realm of popular music in general. People can enjoy that about it, but the fact is that, from my point of view, this is something I've already heard a million times, and it bores me to death.
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Nick Carter
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16.02.2017 - 17:48Rating: 6
It has some interesting mixes and a very good singer, besides that, I can't freakin' believe they are in the top 10 and have a review with a 9.8. I don't think this is can be better than an "interesting band".
About fanboys, I don't think you can't do much against this wave. Just hope they listen to much more music and make a much more "educated" rating. But that doesn't mean they can still believe this album deserves a 10, each of us appreciate music in very different ways.
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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17.02.2017 - 05:29Rating: 3
Written by Nick Carter on 16.02.2017 at 17:48
It has some interesting mixes and a very good singer, besides that, I can't freakin' believe they are in the top 10 and have a review with a 9.8. I don't think this is can be better than an "interesting band".
About fanboys, I don't think you can't do much against this wave. Just hope they listen to much more music and make a much more "educated" rating. But that doesn't mean they can still believe this album deserves a 10, each of us appreciate music in very different ways.
I can't believe someone can even finish this album. Yuck.
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ivanz83
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17.02.2017 - 11:48Rating: 10
Written by Boxcar Willy on 17.02.2017 at 05:29
Written by Nick Carter on 16.02.2017 at 17:48
It has some interesting mixes and a very good singer, besides that, I can't freakin' believe they are in the top 10 and have a review with a 9.8. I don't think this is can be better than an "interesting band".
About fanboys, I don't think you can't do much against this wave. Just hope they listen to much more music and make a much more "educated" rating. But that doesn't mean they can still believe this album deserves a 10, each of us appreciate music in very different ways.
I can't believe someone can even finish this album. Yuck.
"О, сколько нам открытий чудных
Готовят просвещенья дух
И опыт - сын ошибок трудных,
И гений - парадоксов друг,
И случай - бог-изобретатель..."
"How many blissful revelations
The spirit of enlightment hides!
And then experience born of lapses
And genius antinomy-wise
And chance, the heavenly inventor..."
(A.S. Pushkin)
:-)
In the facts are not necessary to believe.
It is objective knowledge, not an object of belief.
A lot of people listen to the album. In group "slot" come full houses across the country. If you do not like it, will have to accept.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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17.02.2017 - 13:32Rating: 8
Written by Boxcar Willy on 17.02.2017 at 05:29
Written by Nick Carter on 16.02.2017 at 17:48
It has some interesting mixes and a very good singer, besides that, I can't freakin' believe they are in the top 10 and have a review with a 9.8. I don't think this is can be better than an "interesting band".
About fanboys, I don't think you can't do much against this wave. Just hope they listen to much more music and make a much more "educated" rating. But that doesn't mean they can still believe this album deserves a 10, each of us appreciate music in very different ways.
I can't believe someone can even finish this album. Yuck.
You really have to believe on "majority" who finished this album and praising their work. If not for highly inflatable on score, still this is nicely produced record.
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7345 |
This is so awful, it hurts. The ratings of their albums in MS have left me speechless.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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17.02.2017 - 15:02Rating: 8
Written by nikarg on 17.02.2017 at 14:26
This is so awful, it hurts.
I'm curious to know what's so awful about it?!
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masterofdisguise
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17.02.2017 - 19:20Rating: 7
I don't know whats so bad about it. Actually, I enjoyed it quite a lot, even for a genre I dislike most of the time.
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7345 |
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 17.02.2017 at 15:02
Written by nikarg on 17.02.2017 at 14:26
This is so awful, it hurts.
I'm curious to know what's so awful about it?!
Everything really.. (apart from the lyrics since I don't speak Russian)
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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18.02.2017 - 07:30Rating: 8
Written by nikarg on 18.02.2017 at 00:49
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 17.02.2017 at 15:02
Written by nikarg on 17.02.2017 at 14:26
This is so awful, it hurts.
I'm curious to know what's so awful about it?!
Everything really.. (apart from the lyrics since I don't speak Russian)
Very mundane explanation.
Try to elaborate "everything really" or else i'm considering your vote as "vote abuse".
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 18.02.2017 at 07:30
Written by nikarg on 18.02.2017 at 00:49
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 17.02.2017 at 15:02
Written by nikarg on 17.02.2017 at 14:26
This is so awful, it hurts.
I'm curious to know what's so awful about it?!
Everything really.. (apart from the lyrics since I don't speak Russian)
Very mundane explanation.
Try to elaborate "everything really" or else i'm considering your vote as "vote abuse".
I don't have to explain myself to you man and I couldn't care less if you consider my vote as "vote abuse", because it obviously isn't. I respect the fact that you like the album, you have to deal with the fact that someone else considers it to be utter shite. I just consider this particular album and everything that I tried to hear from this band to be pure crap and this is just a matter of musical taste. I only listened to parts of ALL their albums on youtube (yes, I am a masochist), because suddenly I saw so many 10s and their albums are magically in the top of the MS lists. I dug in a little and found out that 99% of 10s were given by people who registered about 10 days ago, have only rated Slot albums and Slot is their favourite band. Now, that's probably vote abuse but it's not my place to ascertain that.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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18.02.2017 - 12:55Rating: 8
Written by nikarg on 18.02.2017 at 11:50
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 18.02.2017 at 07:30
Written by nikarg on 18.02.2017 at 00:49
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 17.02.2017 at 15:02
Written by nikarg on 17.02.2017 at 14:26
This is so awful, it hurts.
I'm curious to know what's so awful about it?!
Everything really.. (apart from the lyrics since I don't speak Russian)
Very mundane explanation.
Try to elaborate "everything really" or else i'm considering your vote as "vote abuse".
I dug in a little and found out that 99% of 10s were given by people who registered about 10 days ago, have only rated Slot albums and Slot is their favourite band.
That is certainly vote abuse and those accounts surely will be pulled from our database soon.
It's good that you finally came up with explanation towards castigating a particular record 'cause without "detailed explanation(s)" and giving "low vote", anyone can accuse you for vote abuse.
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No one has to give explanations for their vote, stop pretending you're staff, Cynic.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by [user id=4365] on 18.02.2017 at 14:25
No one has to give explanations for their vote, stop pretending you're staff, Cynic.
This...
and cut down on the qoute train, Cynic.
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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18.02.2017 - 16:58Rating: 3
Sorry we don't like triple produced Russian A7X with a way over-the-top female russian singer.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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19.02.2017 - 06:41Rating: 8
It would be better if you speak for yourself. No one has told you to represent for "majority" here.
I still think it's a great record. Never connected with "F5" or "Шестой" for many reasons but this is very well delivered.
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He's speaking for the people who didn't like the band who have made themselves heard on this page.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
I will pipe in...I think it's awesome fans of the band walked over to the Metal Storm park to show their support. I am sure the band is grateful too.
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Azarath Free as a.. Fish
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Written by tea[m]ster on 20.02.2017 at 18:43
I think it's awesome fans of the band walked over to the Metal Storm park to show their support.
I agree.
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Nick Carter
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21.02.2017 - 17:34Rating: 6
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.02.2017 at 06:41
It would be better if you speak for yourself. No one has told you to represent for "majority" here.
I still think it's a great record. Never connected with "F5" or "Шестой" for many reasons but this is very well delivered.
Well I don't think this album is "pure shit". It has some interesting tracks, but you have to admit its highly overrated. And it's normal that overrated albums create exagerated hate. What is very curious is that you are responding to every negative comment in here trying to "defend" SLoT. Could we know why?
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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21.02.2017 - 19:31Rating: 8
Written by Nick Carter on 21.02.2017 at 17:34
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.02.2017 at 06:41
It would be better if you speak for yourself. No one has told you to represent for "majority" here.
I still think it's a great record. Never connected with "F5" or "Шестой" for many reasons but this is very well delivered.
What is very curious is that you are responding to every negative comment in here trying to "defend" SLoT. Could we know why?
Yes my defending purely based on quality of record, which is, absolutely top-notch. As i said before, it could be that I didn't found good connection with aforementioned records and out of nowhere "Septima" surprised me. Merits of "Septima" are covered in Screaming's review.
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yeah1980
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27.03.2017 - 08:32Rating: 8
Even tho "not my cup", I liked it very much.
I'd like to understand the lirics... :-D
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Karlabos
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Wow, look at those rating shrinks on their discography after the staff dealt with the abuses
It turns out the rating was indeed inflated after all
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Written by Karlabos on 27.07.2017 at 03:48
Wow, look at those rating shrinks on their discography after the staff dealt with the abuses
It turns out the rating was indeed inflated after all
SSUSs review hasnt been dealt with though
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