Immortal - Comment On Band Conflict
The remaining members of Immortal have talked about the trademark case which was closed by "Patentstyret" (Norway's Patent Office) in November 2015. Guitarist/lyricist Demonaz and drummer Horgh can now share their side of the story for the first time. Former frontman Abbath Doom Occulta has formed his own project Abbath after he left the Norwegian metallers saying at the time that he attempted to secure exclusive rights to the band's name and logo because he thought Horgh and Demonaz had quit the band. Now Demonaz and Horgh claim that the conflict was due to personal problems and that Abbath ruined the band's progress.
Here is the band's statement: "The conflict was not about anyone leaving the band as Abbath claimed. It was all about his personal problems. He had cancelled rehearsals and ruined the band's progress for a very long time. We were forced to confront him about it. Abbath recently told Australian website (TheMusic.com.au) that we wanted things solely on our own timetable and that we claimed he needed rehab.
"The band had to reschedule rehearsals all the time because of him. Even then, he did not show up. He told the band, friends, and family that he needed to go to rehab again. He had got help from a clinic before. We offered to wait for him to recover this time also. Sadly he changed his decision.
"Instead of trying to solve his problems, he went behind our back and secretly applied for a trademark ownership of the bands logo and name. It was hard to believe that his problems had led him to such a point. When his attempt to get the rights was discovered by the band, he all of a sudden went solo. His accusations against the band in media changed from day to day. The fans started to question his version and wanted us to speak about what really happened. Unfortunately, we had to wait until the case was all closed, to make a statement.
"His trademark application was denied and the case closed by Patentstyret in November, 2015. One of the reasons was because he had only contributed as a co-writer of music in Immortal. Nor did he contribute any lyrics or titles to the band's albums. The fact is that the music has always been a result from the band as a unit.
"Immortal will record the new and long awaited album in 2016, which will be released by Nuclear Blast Records. We are well prepared and looking forward to present the new material to the fans. We did not want to rush things, but take the time to deliver another high quality Immortal album."
Here is the band's statement: "The conflict was not about anyone leaving the band as Abbath claimed. It was all about his personal problems. He had cancelled rehearsals and ruined the band's progress for a very long time. We were forced to confront him about it. Abbath recently told Australian website (TheMusic.com.au) that we wanted things solely on our own timetable and that we claimed he needed rehab.
"The band had to reschedule rehearsals all the time because of him. Even then, he did not show up. He told the band, friends, and family that he needed to go to rehab again. He had got help from a clinic before. We offered to wait for him to recover this time also. Sadly he changed his decision.
"Instead of trying to solve his problems, he went behind our back and secretly applied for a trademark ownership of the bands logo and name. It was hard to believe that his problems had led him to such a point. When his attempt to get the rights was discovered by the band, he all of a sudden went solo. His accusations against the band in media changed from day to day. The fans started to question his version and wanted us to speak about what really happened. Unfortunately, we had to wait until the case was all closed, to make a statement.
"His trademark application was denied and the case closed by Patentstyret in November, 2015. One of the reasons was because he had only contributed as a co-writer of music in Immortal. Nor did he contribute any lyrics or titles to the band's albums. The fact is that the music has always been a result from the band as a unit.
"Immortal will record the new and long awaited album in 2016, which will be released by Nuclear Blast Records. We are well prepared and looking forward to present the new material to the fans. We did not want to rush things, but take the time to deliver another high quality Immortal album."
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| AyΣm Posts: 287  |
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| BloodTears ANA-thema Elite Posts: 11835  |
A bit more of dirty laundry... I'm here for the music guys, gimme! But I guess they need to defend themselves.
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| Vombatus Potorro Posts: 2393  |
Too much sneakiness to trademark bands lately  Wouldn't dislike something like the Demonaz project (he could take over vocals in Immortal?) but if it ends up as forgettable as the Abbath project, no thanks.... Well, at least there'd be two bands performing Immortal classics so that's good 
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| Gothmog_Motsham Posts: 665  |
I don't know what the band will sound like without Abbath, but the lyrical theme will definitely remain intact because it was after all Demonaz's concepts. All support to both Immortal and Abbath on their endeavors and I can't wait for Immortal to unveil their full line-up. MEOW! 
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 62022  |
Written by AyΣm on 03.12.2015 at 19:05 Demoinaz solo is pretty good and this band has future. Abbat asked Satanists and BM some kind elitists join into band, never liked those bands what musicians asked Abbat, no artistic value, cheesy lyrics, Immortal , Emperor, Enslaved, lyrically stands out , so if Demonz keep write about winter, band has future
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| Risto Wandering Midget Posts: 1115  |
Written by SoUnDs LiKe PoP on 03.12.2015 at 22:52 Sólstafir still takes this title for me.
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| M C Vice ex-polydactyl Posts: 3408  |
Written by Malignar on 04.12.2015 at 03:21 He's was still the lyricist after he couildn't play anymore. Only 1 song Immortal ever did (on an album) had lyrics by Abbath instead of Demonaz. They just have to make sure their new guitarist (or bassist, if they don't currently have one) writes music. I'm hoping Demonaz doesn't take over vocals, as I didn't think much of him on his solo album.
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| TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher Posts: 1086  |
I see many people do not credit Abbath as the main force in Immortal. Appart from being the guy behind most of the songwriting in the band and main instrumentist, he was the main recognizing force of the band. Everybody can write some half-assed lyrics, but not anyone can write good music.
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| s_t_s Posts: 1208  |
Do I want to waste time reading a story that could come out of any people's magazine ? The answer is no. Do I need to waste time posting a useless comment ? Guess the answer is yes. Do music, we don't care so much about the rest. Private life has ro remain private imho.
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| Wukk Posts: 792  |
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 04.12.2015 at 12:36 And by the same token, everybody can write some half-assed music, but not anyone can write good lyrics. It works both ways.
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| moe5512 Posts: 502  |
Written by Hex_Omega on 04.12.2015 at 10:18 Fixed
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| ANGEL REAPER Posts: 3687  |
Well at least nobody got stabbed ....which is nice!
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| EloZ Posts: 73  |
Abbath is the frontman of Immortal and the icon behind that monicker. Without Demonaz and Horgh the band can survive, but without him, I think too much is gonna be missed and the best thing to do for now maybe is disband. Demonaz could continue his solo career too.
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| TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher Posts: 1086 |
Written by Wukk on 04.12.2015 at 16:53 The point is that you listen to music, not reading a poem. The lyrics weren't intelligent anyway. I bet most people here care more for the musical quality and less for lyrics, unless we speak about a concept album, which frankly Immortal never did. And yeah, even I can come up with some decent lyrics on whatever topic if I focus. But coming up with music is totally different, not to mention good quality music. Not the lyrics made Immortal famous, but the goofy imagery and intense instrumentals. The lyrics are just a bonus that only hipsters care more about.
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| Wukk Posts: 792 |
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 04.12.2015 at 19:39 This is true. I probably should have mentioned that I wasn't specifically referring to Immortal. Written by TheMAGAmvm on 04.12.2015 at 19:39 I'd wager that it takes just as much skill to write good poetry as it does to write good music, since both rely on a combination of creative thinking and an understanding of what generally works and what doesn't. Not that I can really back this assertion up. Written by TheMAGAmvm on 04.12.2015 at 19:39 Well then, consider me a hipster. Written by TheMAGAmvm on 04.12.2015 at 19:39 Yep, I can get behind that. Never imagined I'd catch myself making one of these long, impassioned replies with multiquotes and all. Oops.
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| TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher Posts: 1086 |
Written by Wukk on 04.12.2015 at 20:19 Then they should focus on writing poems and ditch the music. Or write music and ditch the poem. Good music does not require lyrics of huge importance to the universe.
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| Timelord Posts: 276  |
This is typical jealousy/inflated ego bullshit that has happened thousands of times over. The persona of Abbath has become bigger than "Immortal" the band. If Abbath was so lazy and unproductive then why is he already out playing shows and releasing new material. Demonaz writes the lyrics....aaaand that is necessitating rehearsals from the guys who actually are playing instruments? Also anybody that has ever had to be the vocalist knows that just because you write something doesn't mean it will be easily sung. It takes the reworking of whoever is singing to get their phrasing and timing just right to match the music and this means things get added/removed quite frequently. I know this from years of doing it. Sorry fellas your jealousy and inability to deal with the "Abbath IS Immortal crowd" has derailed a gravy train. While Abbath will be cashing in on err well.....Abbath! I am pretty sure it won't be that difficult to keep the "Winter" theme going with Abbath either. Just takes some album artwork and song titles referring to "my freezing cold balls" or "Demons:(Start a fucking fire its Cold in this Castle)" , to go along with that easily identifiable croak and allah peanut butter sand-witches instant cold chilling more Immortal sounding than Immortal will have now. If your reading this Abbath I have a few song titles you may like: Don't Eat (The Yellow Snow) Dumbass Died on Everest Goddamn! (Your Feet are Cold stop touching me) Look at the Steam Coming off the Dogshit Runover by a Snowplow Would you Like to try a McFlurry? Smashed in the Head with a Snowglobe(Cannibal Corpse reject) I Got Tickets(to the figure skating championship) Holy Shit its Snowing in Africa(who opened the Coors Light)
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| Karlabos Posts: 5736  |
^ Enter Snowman Can't Feel My Face... Because It's Too Freaking Cold Bet You Can't Burn a Church to Make Fire Like Me I Am The Snow Walrus Feeble Scream From Forest... Of People Dying Of Pneumonia Oops, I Froze It Again
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| Maco Pvt Funderground Posts: 3593  |
THAT QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED THIS SUNDAY NIGHT WHEN JOHN CENA..... shit. When Abbat and Immortal release their new albums.
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| Gordon Freeman Posts: 426  |
Replacing Abbath will be difficult, but if they can find a guitarist who can write songs as well as play them they should be alright. Does anyone have an opinion on Apollyon picking up the vocal duties? He provides half the vocal duties for Aura Noir. He's still in Immortal, right?
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