I've just read in a socialist forum that these metal bands are leftist.Is it true?

Marilyn Manson
Arch Enemy
Rage Against The Machine
Tool
Lamb Of God
System Of A Down (soad sucks)
Dope
Sepultra

note:Rage Against The Machine is obviously a socialist band.but what about others...?
note: http://www.revleft.com/vb/list-left-wing-t151083/index.html?t=151083

That's all they could come up with? Weak.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 18.08.2014 at 09:22

That's all they could come up with? Weak.

as a old timer, don't you recall, IMO we have such tread already I remember we have, or was it in MSv2 Marcel, other old timers?

Written by deadone on 18.08.2014 at 09:19

SOAD's definitely an anti-American bunch of left wing types (even though 1st album is good).

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deport them to Armenia ,,,, isn't it funny all so called Americans whit islam and other background are more loyal to Palestine not to country where are they borne ... IMO its rediciluise and funny same time , in the war I would not trust such solder to save my six ... seriously, I would not ... all social media, facebook, are full whit Americans who are born there and loyalty goes to parents origin country .... same in the Europe, specially ppl who lives in social wall fair and errors of system abd same time ppl don't see how WP is rising ;(
Sorry for off topic ....

BTW some The Clash songs can be socialistic as well
My friend plays ins socialistic pankush band (but I cant remember name LOL )

Written by Bad English on 18.08.2014 at 19:41

Written by deadone on 18.08.2014 at 09:19

SOAD's definitely an anti-American bunch of left wing types (even though 1st album is good).

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deport them to Armenia ,,,, isn't it funny all so called Americans whit islam and other background are more loyal to Palestine not to country where are they borne ... IMO its rediciluise and funny same time , in the war I would not trust such solder to save my six ... seriously, I would not ... all social media, facebook, are full whit Americans who are born there and loyalty goes to parents origin country .... same in the Europe, specially ppl who lives in social wall fair and errors of system abd same time ppl don't see how WP is rising ;(
Sorry for off topic ....

BTW some The Clash songs can be socialistic as well
My friend plays ins socialistic pankush band (but I cant remember name LOL )

Armenia is a Christian country, stop being racist.

Written by Ganondox on 18.08.2014 at 20:53



Armenia is a Christian country, stop being racist.

I know, and its not rasistic ... its not much ask to be loyal to country where you are living ... BTW no US Armenia would not exist it would be ASSR ... just saying

K7 trying to be like his hero deadone

......cool thread

Written by [user id=136611] on 18.08.2014 at 21:24

K7 trying to be like his hero deadone

......cool thread

except that K7 usually doesn't have a clue what he is talking about

I remember checking a bunch of Black metal bands with communist & anarchist theme, something like a response to NSBM, mostly from Greece and Russia. Can't remember any by name, none got me too interest in their music.

System of a down are anti-war, not Anti-American. Serj has praised the US and says he loves the place that allowed his family to come to to escape the armenian genocide.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.08.2014 at 21:26

except that K7 usually doesn't have a clue what he is talking about

Well, neither does deadone.

I have immediately thought of Stalin,Mao Zedong and Tito jamming to some speed metal ... kinda catchy premise when you think about it

I agree with RATM, disagree wih Arch Enemy, Sepultura and SOAD and don't know that much about others being socialist or not, which were mentioned at OP. Political, anti-war or anti christian lyrics doesn't make band socialist. There are faults with capitalism and with the USA too and many tend to point at these weak spots, but to calling bands socialist because of that is a little too much.

If you really want you could artificially make them look like socialist bands, but in reality they're not.

I bet there are many truly socialist bands out there as well. When talking about metal you should use metal-archives if you're really interested in these bands.

Written by deadone on 19.08.2014 at 01:46

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 18.08.2014 at 23:34

I have immediately thought of Stalin,Mao Zedong and Tito jamming to some speed metal ... kinda catchy premise when you think about it

I like how you mentioned Tito. How many people would know him here? I've actually been to Kumrovec (village of his birth). He wasn't a bad dictator overall, especially compared to a lot of others.

well he was interesting fella i'll give him that.well my folks say that they liked living in his country so i'll say that he wasn't that bad.Ex-Yugo was only country from socialistic block to have all the benefits of west : products,technology,culture,media,art.Hell ,in the time when the rest of the block was still banning The Beatles ,Yugoslavia probably had 3rd or 4th strongest rock scene in the world.:D (just saying) Than again ,i was not living in that time so i cant really form a opinion about it,him or anything.

but i digress ,...

No... no no no no no no no no. No. Don't go down that road.

Have a cookie and let music be free. Nom.

Written by samarium on 18.08.2014 at 22:32

System of a down are anti-war, not Anti-American. Serj has praised the US and says he loves the place that allowed his family to come to to escape the armenian genocide.

it happened in 1915 ... his parents was not born yet ...and Nagaro karabah(or what's name of that region in English) conflict started in 90's

Written by [user id=151504] on 19.08.2014 at 01:10

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I read old Sepultura was like protest band against any kind of militarism and army , his old man was like diplomat or worked In Sao Paolo Italian ambecy and Max and Igor hated army and was like angst , so it cant be 100% socialistic ,

Arch Enemy's Khaos Legions sounds more anarchist than socialist.

Written by deadone on 20.08.2014 at 08:35

Written by M C Vice on 20.08.2014 at 06:52

Arch Enemy's Khaos Legions sounds more anarchist than socialist.

It sounds like juvenile garbage to me. It's all "topple the system, stick it to the man" ravings like you'd expect from a 14 year old.

I never said they were GOOD at sounding like anarchists.

Written by deadone on 19.08.2014 at 01:46

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 18.08.2014 at 23:34

I have immediately thought of Stalin,Mao Zedong and Tito jamming to some speed metal ... kinda catchy premise when you think about it

I like how you mentioned Tito. How many people would know him here? I've actually been to Kumrovec (village of his birth). He wasn't a bad dictator overall, especially compared to a lot of others.

I know him. But then again I am 46 and Yugoslavia was still one under Tito when I grew up.

I know Josif Broz as well, same Chausesku , and other east Europian leaders after WWII, maybe not all, but I can name them and aslo know who Anders Bader and Ulrika Mainkaft was ... everyone whit school education should know those ppl ....I did study history, geo, politology .... best grades I get there

Written by M C Vice on 20.08.2014 at 06:52

Arch Enemy's Khaos Legions sounds more anarchist than socialist.

..and sucks hard as well ...

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.08.2014 at 19:26

Written by M C Vice on 20.08.2014 at 06:52

Arch Enemy's Khaos Legions sounds more anarchist than socialist.

..and sucks hard as well ...

No-one's talking about quality of the music here

pretty obvious just by looking at that list

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.08.2014 at 21:45

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.08.2014 at 19:26

Written by M C Vice on 20.08.2014 at 06:52

Arch Enemy's Khaos Legions sounds more anarchist than socialist.

..and sucks hard as well ...

No-one's talking about quality of the music here

though for one brief second i had imagined the picture of Angela doing the sucking part

no seriously now A E had that kind of "anarchist" theme from the point when they hired Angela as vocalist .And than again its important to state that even that theme sounded like formality ,a thing mixed in just to appeal more to some audience (preferably young angst fueled people).I think that that approach is what killed Khaos Legions.I mean vegan death metal?! are you kidding me!!?
anyway it can go of topic so ,lets just stick with conclusion that AE has anarchist themes

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 21.08.2014 at 00:21


though for one brief second i had imagined the picture of Angela doing the sucking part

no seriously now A E had that kind of "anarchist" theme from the point when they hired Angela as vocalist .And than again its important to state that even that theme sounded like formality ,a thing mixed in just to appeal more to some audience (preferably young angst fueled people).I think that that approach is what killed Khaos Legions.I mean vegan death metal?! are you kidding me!!?
anyway it can go of topic so ,lets just stick with conclusion that AE has anarchist themes

Angela is more vegan, animal wright activist so ... not a socialist at all and more this AE anti world. rebellion attitude is more posing, maybe band was anti social in male vocals era but not now and those lytrics is just words ,,,,

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 21.08.2014 at 00:21

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.08.2014 at 21:45

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.08.2014 at 19:26

Written by M C Vice on 20.08.2014 at 06:52

I mean vegan death metal?! are you kidding me!!?

Wasn't Carcass a bunch of vegans?

Written by M C Vice on 21.08.2014 at 06:33

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 21.08.2014 at 00:21

I mean vegan death metal?! are you kidding me!!?

Wasn't Carcass a bunch of vegans?

well maybe, but the point remains .I mean its their sole right to sing about what ever they want,but its also my right to ridicule such choice Vegan death metal is in same "what is this bullshit" category as christian black metal, or even that oxymoron called NSBM (of which lyric themes i have already ranted in NSBM thread).

And just for the record ,i dont say that music is bad in A E (well except for Khaos Legions) or Carcass (im not a fan of the band though) and i surely dont care much about what they are singing sometimes (as long it is not NS crap) but for sake of argument where A E Socialist band i used the argument Vegan Death Metal as example that they have "social aware" lyrical themes but they are closer to anarchist themes than being socialist themed band.I mean its similar to saying Megadeth is socialist metal band cause Dave wrote some "socially aware" lyrics (and we all know what "comrade" Dave thinks about that stuff).

PS: Believe or not,i have encountered a thread on some forum stating that Megadeth is socialist metal band now go figure its a crazy world ....

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 21.08.2014 at 11:18

well maybe, but the point remains .I mean its their sole right to sing about what ever they want,but its also my right to ridicule such choice Vegan death metal is in same "what is this bullshit" category as christian black metal, or even that oxymoron called NSBM (of which lyric themes i have already ranted in NSBM thread).

I like Christian black metal. Its good for all that 'fire and brimstone' evangelical stuff. Like Horde.

Written by M C Vice on 21.08.2014 at 11:53

I like Christian black metal. Its good for all that 'fire and brimstone' evangelical stuff. Like Horde.

hey i am all for that angry and vengeful god of the Old Testament but i just cant take those bands seriously.Especially compared to (also not serous) "TRVE" bands and really good bands from the 90s.Also there is this problem of basing whole art and sound on religious themes which i am not really a found of. (i think i ranted on this as well in Christian Black metal thread).