Funny, I expected the video clip to be as pretentious as their lyrics.

And what do you do?
I play the violin in a metal band........

This is not really my thing. It's like they can't decide what they want to be and just mixed everyting into one.
And those single note speed picking thingies really are annoying!

Written by Gothmog_Motsham on 02.06.2015 at 21:42

Funny, I expected the video clip to be as pretentious as their lyrics.

Yeah, I was a bit disappointed too. The video is pretty dull compared to the lyrics.

Written by Frombelow on 02.06.2015 at 21:57

And those single note speed picking thingies really are annoying!

You mean black metal?

Written by LeKiwi on 03.06.2015 at 03:16

Written by Frombelow on 02.06.2015 at 21:57

And those single note speed picking thingies really are annoying!

You mean black metal?

What?

Written by Electes on 03.06.2015 at 07:10

What?

That's a black metal technique.

Hey, I was there.
The video's a bit average but that particular show wasn't their best performance as well.
That venue (170 russell) always have wonky audio systems, good at some times and bad at others.
Beyond Creation played before them on that day and they have non-optimal sound as well.

Written by LeKiwi on 03.06.2015 at 14:47

Written by Electes on 03.06.2015 at 07:10

What?

That's a black metal technique.

Tremolos are not unique to black metal, friend.

Written by Electes on 03.06.2015 at 20:00

Tremolos are not unique to black metal, friend.

Most definitely not, but the way which it is applied here is stylistically black metal

Written by LeKiwi on 03.06.2015 at 20:03

Written by Electes on 03.06.2015 at 20:00

Tremolos are not unique to black metal, friend.

Most definitely not, but the way which it is applied here is stylistically black metal

I wouldn't agree at all.

When these metal elitists try to insult this band with cool words, they just look like simon cowell. Get a job, really

Written by Electes on 04.06.2015 at 04:52

I wouldn't agree at all.

A more reasoned counterargument would be nice

Written by LeKiwi on 04.06.2015 at 14:09

Written by Electes on 04.06.2015 at 04:52

I wouldn't agree at all.

A more reasoned counterargument would be nice

"Stylistically black metal" doesn't make much sense to me. A blast beat and a tremolo picked riff doesn't make it black metal, nor do higher pitched harsh vocals. To use another band and song, take for example The Faceless' Xenochrist. One of the first riffs in that song "sounds black metal", but the band plays progressive death metal. I wouldn't agree that The Faceless is now a black metal band or even used a black metal riff, in rudiment or style, because of one debatable instance. The same goes for the pop metal band from which this little squabble arose from.

Written by Electes on 04.06.2015 at 22:43
"Stylistically black metal" doesn't make much sense to me.

"Stylistically black metal" implies that the speed, octave, and key in which is the riff is being played is derived from black metal.

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A blast beat and a tremolo picked riff doesn't make it black metal, nor do higher pitched harsh vocals. To use another band and song, take for example The Faceless' Xenochrist. One of the first riffs in that song "sounds black metal", but the band plays progressive death metal. I wouldn't agree that The Faceless is now a black metal band or even used a black metal riff, in rudiment or style, because of one debatable instance. The same goes for the pop metal band from which this little squabble arose from.

The section at 0:26 in "Xenochrist" doesn't "sound" black metal - it is black metal.

I don't recall, at any point, saying that incorporating a riff heavily inspired by black metal - or essentially black metal in itself - renders the band's style as said genre itself.

Written by Electes on 04.06.2015 at 22:43
The section at 0:26 in "Xenochrist" doesn't "sound" black metal - it is black metal.

Negative. I'll end the conversation here.

Written by Electes on 05.06.2015 at 00:31

Negative. I'll end the conversation here.

Logic always prevails

0:26 - 0:41 is 100% black metal whether you like it or not.