Coz its not much about islam being strict about pre-maritial sex as much as it is about poverty, illiteracy, and over population. but yeah, religion plays a major part in that too.

83% ??, . no offend but it is a extreme alert number, unless your population is small.

Written by Angelic Storm on 04.11.2010 at 08:37

Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 06:38
Glasgow as the most violent city in industrialised countries ? That seems like a farfetched statement but by all means list your sources. I think Los Angeles and Detroit are to be considered way more violent.
I've read on London and its recent uprise of gang violence and it would seem to me with a much higher population they would have more gangs than your "nightmarish" Glasgow. Of course, per capita would be a different story and you're witness to what goes on within your city so I might be unaware of certain facts...

A UN report in 2005 stated that excluding murder, a Scot is 3 times more likely to be a victim of violent assault than an American. And compared the level of violent crime with cities like Rio De Janeiro. It said that the "booze and blades" culture of the West of Scotland was mainly responsible for the figures. And pinpointed Glasgow as a particular hotspot. Glasgow has a small population compared to those US cities you mentioned, and London, so of course it's per capita. Although a 2008 report stated that Glasgow has 200 teenage gangs, which is more than London has. And that isnt per capita, it meant that Glasgow literally has more teenage gangs than London. 6 times more, if it's on a per capita basis. Another 2008 report, said that per head of population, Glasgow is more violent than New York. Which was once notorious for it's violence levels. The crime figures for 2006-07 showed that for every 100,000 people, there were 731.39 incidents in Glasgow compared to 631.30 in New York.

There is no need to list my sources, these statistics, and findings of these (and other) reports should be very easy to find for anyone wanting to obtain them. Of course, I would say to class it as the most violent city in the developed world, may be pushing it slightly. But its definitely one of the worst. And yes, I have personally witnessed the violence that goes on in my city on a few ocassions. So Im also talking from personal experience, not just statistics.

I would have never thought. The divide line must be wide between the rich and poor and then again it's sort of surprising because I trust that your immigration rate isn't all that high in Glasgow ? (and this isn't a personal attack towards immigrants it's just that they are known to cause violent turmoil).
I guess your economy isn't very good which isn't surprising these days still as of now because of the recession in America two years prior.

Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 19:18
I would have never thought. The divide line must be wide between the rich and poor and then again it's sort of surprising because I trust that your immigration rate isn't all that high in Glasgow ? (and this isn't a personal attack towards immigrants it's just that they are known to cause violent turmoil).
I guess your economy isn't very good which isn't surprising these days still as of now because of the recession in America two years prior.

The divide line between rich and poor is wide, and it seems like with each successive government, it just gets wider and wider. Gangs in the urban areas of Glasgow are an epidemic. Pretty much every section of these areas has it's own teenage gang. Just within a 3.8 mile radius of where I live, there is about 9 teenage gangs. Including the one that resides where I live. Well, the funny thing about Glasgow, at least in the parts I know of, the teenage gangs are made up almost exclusively, of native white youths. There has been more immigration in the last 2/3 years or so, but still, the bulk of the trouble is caused by Scots youths. In all the years Ive lived in this area, Ive not once seen anyone from an ethnic minority involved in the yob culture. Its always Scots kids/people.

The economy here is awful. And the governments answer to this? To further place the majority of the burden of the cuts on the poor, and the disabled. It's estimated that the very richest will have to pay just 2% of their annual income towards the debt. While the poorest will have to pay nearly 30% of their annual incomes towards it. As impossible as it seems, the worst areas of society are only going to get worse, not better.

Written by Angelic Storm on 04.11.2010 at 19:36

Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 19:18
I would have never thought. The divide line must be wide between the rich and poor and then again it's sort of surprising because I trust that your immigration rate isn't all that high in Glasgow ? (and this isn't a personal attack towards immigrants it's just that they are known to cause violent turmoil).
I guess your economy isn't very good which isn't surprising these days still as of now because of the recession in America two years prior.

The economy here is awful. And the governments answer to this? To further place the majority of the burden of the cuts on the poor, and the disabled. It's estimated that the very richest will have to pay just 2% of their annual income towards the debt. While the poorest will have to pay nearly 30% of their annual incomes towards it. As impossible as it seems, the worst areas of society are only going to get worse, not better.

What a fail of a plan, that's ridiculous, almost laughable but more sad than anything else. With those kind of differing taxation rates no wonder the problems further extend themselves to the streets.
Something worth reading about though. Your government has to get its head straightened out.

Written by Zombie on 04.11.2010 at 15:40

So, the lesson learnt here is not to move to scotland ? .. coz its defnitely WAY better than other parts of the world

Scotland is my dream place ... Bowmore thay make it there Islay ;P

EDDIt: well moving out in UK if you have seen Sid n nancy In big cities ifr you're workjing glass life be shitry, higher , midle or uper class, you cant be and get moeny to buy safe place costs and seems UK is only place where I would like live in small villiadge how Glasgow, Birmingham, London districts,w atch West Ham-Millwall you will see

and if I be in Irland I would borrow some Ak or M-60 from IRA to defend my self, better life time in X Blocks or H Blox how dead in street,

This is worts UK part cops dont have a handguns, and gun policy

Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 19:49

Written by Angelic Storm on 04.11.2010 at 19:36

Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 19:18
I would have never thought. The divide line must be wide between the rich and poor and then again it's sort of surprising because I trust that your immigration rate isn't all that high in Glasgow ? (and this isn't a personal attack towards immigrants it's just that they are known to cause violent turmoil).
I guess your economy isn't very good which isn't surprising these days still as of now because of the recession in America two years prior.

The economy here is awful. And the governments answer to this? To further place the majority of the burden of the cuts on the poor, and the disabled. It's estimated that the very richest will have to pay just 2% of their annual income towards the debt. While the poorest will have to pay nearly 30% of their annual incomes towards it. As impossible as it seems, the worst areas of society are only going to get worse, not better.

What a fail of a plan, that's ridiculous, almost laughable but more sad than anything else. With those kind of differing taxation rates no wonder the problems further extend themselves to the streets.
Something worth reading about though. Your government has to get its head straightened out.

Very realastic scenario in most parts of the world I reckon. I'm currently residing in Sri Lanka and the taxation rates are somewhat similar here. The rich tend to pay a very small percentage of their salary which the middle class and the poor tend to pay exhorbitant amounts and a very large percentage of their incomes.

As for the crime rate, its not the worst down here and definitely better now that the ethnic war is over.

Written by Angelic Storm on 04.11.2010 at 19:36

The economy here is awful. And the governments answer to this? To further place the majority of the burden of the cuts on the poor, and the disabled. It's estimated that the very richest will have to pay just 2% of their annual income towards the debt. While the poorest will have to pay nearly 30% of their annual incomes towards it. As impossible as it seems, the worst areas of society are only going to get worse, not better.

Our opposition party would like a level-based taxation system like in many other countries in the world... that would imply that the higher your income, the more you pay taxes and the less you earn, the less you have to pay...
But our government with the ruling party says that this system is bullshit. It discriminates the rich people who have worked hard their entire life to become rich. The poor people should just shut up, go to school, pay more to get a bit better education (with what money?) to get a better job and to become rich. If you cannot become rich, then it's your problem, stfu...
That's our government's attitude...

I recently saw a newspaper where some lady (some important person) said that "If Estonia wants to become one of the richest countries in Europe (we're actually one of the poorest) then the Estonian people should learn to appreciate and love their elite and wealthy people more because they are who make the country rich."

And the truth is... yes, seems our people love the rich and the glamorous because every hint to improve the poor people's situation is condemned as a populist/socialist/TOTALITARIAN act and lots of people are brainwashed...
And yes, voting's irrelevant... the same dudes always win the elections...

And since it seems to me this is heavily offtopic, then I finally bring in a sentence of ontopic...

Estonia has a problem with prostitution... at some point we were the East-European Bangkok...
And we have the highest HIV-infection rate in Europe... we're actually on Africa's standard...

And all in all... porn and promiscuity in general degrade human soul... the way people are made to think that sexual function is like going to the toil then no wonder nowadays there's so many people having problems on that level, so many divorces, so many... all kinds of negative things...

Written by Himann on 08.11.2010 at 10:27

Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 19:49

Written by Angelic Storm on 04.11.2010 at 19:36

Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 19:18
I would have never thought. The divide line must be wide between the rich and poor and then again it's sort of surprising because I trust that your immigration rate isn't all that high in Glasgow ? (and this isn't a personal attack towards immigrants it's just that they are known to cause violent turmoil).
I guess your economy isn't very good which isn't surprising these days still as of now because of the recession in America two years prior.

The economy here is awful. And the governments answer to this? To further place the majority of the burden of the cuts on the poor, and the disabled. It's estimated that the very richest will have to pay just 2% of their annual income towards the debt. While the poorest will have to pay nearly 30% of their annual incomes towards it. As impossible as it seems, the worst areas of society are only going to get worse, not better.

What a fail of a plan, that's ridiculous, almost laughable but more sad than anything else. With those kind of differing taxation rates no wonder the problems further extend themselves to the streets.
Something worth reading about though. Your government has to get its head straightened out.

Very realastic scenario in most parts of the world I reckon. I'm currently residing in Sri Lanka and the taxation rates are somewhat similar here. The rich tend to pay a very small percentage of their salary which the middle class and the poor tend to pay exhorbitant amounts and a very large percentage of their incomes.

As for the crime rate, its not the worst down here and definitely better now that the ethnic war is over.

That's a little strange to my knowledge. In North America the higher income earners pay a higher percentage of income tax and lower income earners will pay a smaller percentage. I don't see how a society can be balanced with the taxation rates that you two were bringing to light. I'm still skeptical but I'll take your word for it.

Written by Visioneerie on 10.11.2010 at 19:03
That's a little strange to my knowledge. In North America the higher income earners pay a higher percentage of income tax and lower income earners will pay a smaller percentage. I don't see how a society can be balanced with the taxation rates that you two were bringing to light. I'm still skeptical but I'll take your word for it.

There'd be no such thing as poverty in this country if the distribution of wealth was fair, and likewise, the taxation. And the burden of cuts. Its not only the scandalous amount of tax that the poor have to pay, the services suffering the most severe cuts, are ones that the vulnerable depend on, and the rich never have to use. The whole way that the system is set up seems to be geared towards grinding the poor and vulnerable even further down, while the rich dont feel any ill effects of it at all...

Written by Angelic Storm on 10.11.2010 at 19:33

Written by Visioneerie on 10.11.2010 at 19:03
That's a little strange to my knowledge. In North America the higher income earners pay a higher percentage of income tax and lower income earners will pay a smaller percentage. I don't see how a society can be balanced with the taxation rates that you two were bringing to light. I'm still skeptical but I'll take your word for it.

There'd be no such thing as poverty in this country if the distribution of wealth was fair, and likewise, the taxation. And the burden of cuts. Its not only the scandalous amount of tax that the poor have to pay, the services suffering the most severe cuts, are ones that the vulnerable depend on, and the rich never have to use. The whole way that the system is set up seems to be geared towards grinding the poor and vulnerable even further down, while the rich dont feel any ill effects of it at all...

Its the exact same situation here and I suspect its the case of many other countries, specially in the third world.

Written by Himann on 12.11.2010 at 08:38

Written by Angelic Storm on 10.11.2010 at 19:33

Written by Visioneerie on 10.11.2010 at 19:03
That's a little strange to my knowledge. In North America the higher income earners pay a higher percentage of income tax and lower income earners will pay a smaller percentage. I don't see how a society can be balanced with the taxation rates that you two were bringing to light. I'm still skeptical but I'll take your word for it.

There'd be no such thing as poverty in this country if the distribution of wealth was fair, and likewise, the taxation. And the burden of cuts. Its not only the scandalous amount of tax that the poor have to pay, the services suffering the most severe cuts, are ones that the vulnerable depend on, and the rich never have to use. The whole way that the system is set up seems to be geared towards grinding the poor and vulnerable even further down, while the rich dont feel any ill effects of it at all...

Its the exact same situation here and I suspect its the case of many other countries, specially in the third world.

whaa even in probably the most well-developed country in Europe the system is faulty? damn, and i actually considered moving to Norway in the future

Written by Valentin B on 12.11.2010 at 13:13

Written by Himann on 12.11.2010 at 08:38

Written by Angelic Storm on 10.11.2010 at 19:33

Written by Visioneerie on 10.11.2010 at 19:03
That's a little strange to my knowledge. In North America the higher income earners pay a higher percentage of income tax and lower income earners will pay a smaller percentage. I don't see how a society can be balanced with the taxation rates that you two were bringing to light. I'm still skeptical but I'll take your word for it.

There'd be no such thing as poverty in this country if the distribution of wealth was fair, and likewise, the taxation. And the burden of cuts. Its not only the scandalous amount of tax that the poor have to pay, the services suffering the most severe cuts, are ones that the vulnerable depend on, and the rich never have to use. The whole way that the system is set up seems to be geared towards grinding the poor and vulnerable even further down, while the rich dont feel any ill effects of it at all...

Its the exact same situation here and I suspect its the case of many other countries, specially in the third world.

whaa even in probably the most well-developed country in Europe the system is faulty? damn, and i actually considered moving to Norway in the future

Was talking about Sri Lanka where I currently reside. Norway is much better comparatively.

Aah okay, you scared me for a bit there

Written by TOUGHEST MEMBER on 04.11.2010 at 18:16

83% ??, . no offend but it is a extreme alert number, unless your population is small.

83% REPORTED, so, about 200% actullay got harrassed lol
and no our population isn't small, Egypt is 1,000,000 sq.m and has population of 85,000,000+ and 97% of this population live along the thin strip of the Nile river and the rest is desert (and the city where i live, Cairo, has alone about 25 million people)

so, basically ALL of the women i've EVER seen in Cairo have been harrassed at LEAST once, weekly (most of them get harrassed daily)

I agree with the OP.

It's all equivalent trade at the end of the day.

Prostitutes= women who are PAYED for men's pleasure.
Pornography= In unisex is beneficial to all parties as the men and women who watch it and pay for it are benefitting someone somewhere. As for those who are watching porn for free well...your electric bill still has to be payed :p and who is benefitting from that I wonder? o.0

Both perfectly acceptable. We live in 2010, the time tell people what to do should have long gone.

Written by [user id=107773] on 13.11.2010 at 00:18

I agree with the OP.

It's all equivalent trade at the end of the day.

Prostitutes= women who are PAYED for men's pleasure.
Pornography= In unisex is beneficial to all parties as the men and women who watch it and pay for it are benefitting someone somewhere. As for those who are watching porn for free well...your electric bill still has to be payed :p and who is benefitting from that I wonder? o.0

Prostitution is the scenarios where an individual sells ones self for money. Women, men, there is no difference. There are male prostitutes as well.

As for pornography, it exists all over the world and I agree it benefits both sexes and whoever pays for it. Electricity board pays for electricity here..

Written by Himann on 23.11.2010 at 20:12

Written by [user id=107773] on 13.11.2010 at 00:18

I agree with the OP.

It's all equivalent trade at the end of the day.

Prostitutes= women who are PAYED for men's pleasure.
Pornography= In unisex is beneficial to all parties as the men and women who watch it and pay for it are benefitting someone somewhere. As for those who are watching porn for free well...your electric bill still has to be payed :p and who is benefitting from that I wonder? o.0

Prostitution is the scenarios where an individual sells ones self for money. Women, men, there is no difference. There are male prostitutes as well.

As for pornography, it exists all over the world and I agree it benefits both sexes and whoever pays for it. Electricity board pays for electricity here..

Yeah, I neglected to mention male prostitutes for some reason; I honestly don't know why :p

But as I said, there's nothing wrong with it; people should be able to do what they wish, it's equivalant trade xD

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.11.2010 at 20:45

Written by Himann on 23.11.2010 at 20:12

Written by [user id=107773] on 13.11.2010 at 00:18

I agree with the OP.

It's all equivalent trade at the end of the day.

Prostitutes= women who are PAYED for men's pleasure.
Pornography= In unisex is beneficial to all parties as the men and women who watch it and pay for it are benefitting someone somewhere. As for those who are watching porn for free well...your electric bill still has to be payed :p and who is benefitting from that I wonder? o.0

Prostitution is the scenarios where an individual sells ones self for money. Women, men, there is no difference. There are male prostitutes as well.

As for pornography, it exists all over the world and I agree it benefits both sexes and whoever pays for it. Electricity board pays for electricity here..

Yeah, I neglected to mention male prostitutes for some reason; I honestly don't know why :p

But as I said, there's nothing wrong with it; people should be able to do what they wish, it's equivalant trade xD

I agree to a large extent that they should be allowed to do this profession if they wish. Having said that, it should not be a necessity due to a lack of finances or something. The governments and political leaders have a social responsibility to ensure that the people are given ample job opportunities and reasonable pay in order to not revert to that sort of lifestyle,

Written by Himann on 23.11.2010 at 20:49

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.11.2010 at 20:45

Written by Himann on 23.11.2010 at 20:12

Written by [user id=107773] on 13.11.2010 at 00:18

I agree with the OP.

It's all equivalent trade at the end of the day.

Prostitutes= women who are PAYED for men's pleasure.
Pornography= In unisex is beneficial to all parties as the men and women who watch it and pay for it are benefitting someone somewhere. As for those who are watching porn for free well...your electric bill still has to be payed :p and who is benefitting from that I wonder? o.0

Prostitution is the scenarios where an individual sells ones self for money. Women, men, there is no difference. There are male prostitutes as well.

As for pornography, it exists all over the world and I agree it benefits both sexes and whoever pays for it. Electricity board pays for electricity here..

Yeah, I neglected to mention male prostitutes for some reason; I honestly don't know why :p

But as I said, there's nothing wrong with it; people should be able to do what they wish, it's equivalant trade xD

I agree to a large extent that they should be allowed to do this profession if they wish. Having said that, it should not be a necessity due to a lack of finances or something. The governments and political leaders have a social responsibility to ensure that the people are given ample job opportunities and reasonable pay in order to not revert to that sort of lifestyle,

You see this is very contradictory, on the one hand you accept that people should be allowed, essentially to do what they want; but on the other you think that it's a lifestyle that should be avoided, and can be done by governments creating jobs.

People should be able to do what they want period. It's our social responsibility to understand that and accept it. Governments can't be blamed for everything lol; they're people too, who have to make moral/social judgements the same way we do.

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.11.2010 at 20:55

You see this is very contradictory, on the one hand you accept that people should be allowed, essentially to do what they want; but on the other you think that it's a lifestyle that should be avoided, and can be done by governments creating jobs.

People should be able to do what they want period. It's our social responsibility to understand that and accept it. Governments can't be blamed for everything lol; they're people too, who have to make moral/social judgements the same way we do.

No, not contradictory at all. I'm just saying that they should be allowed, not forced into it.

Written by Himann on 23.11.2010 at 20:59

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.11.2010 at 20:55

You see this is very contradictory, on the one hand you accept that people should be allowed, essentially to do what they want; but on the other you think that it's a lifestyle that should be avoided, and can be done by governments creating jobs.

People should be able to do what they want period. It's our social responsibility to understand that and accept it. Governments can't be blamed for everything lol; they're people too, who have to make moral/social judgements the same way we do.

No, not contradictory at all. I'm just saying that they should be allowed, not forced into it.

I agree, dunno if it is really forced however :/

I just think that if someones stupid enough to sell his body to someone else for a night... then OMG let that person do so.

And for Porn lol... its not a big issue we can buy and/or sell it legally, so yeah not so much to argue about and if you think the ladies are percieved as objects then why do they keep making films, I believe those in the movies enjoy being seen as objects If you don't like it just dont watch it thats what I gotta say lol

I agree with the opening post. While I perceive prostitution and pornography with great distaste, I believe that in a "free" society a man should make his own decisions for himself. If a man wants to rent a hooker for the night, let him. If a hooker wants to sell her body for money, let her. Prohibiting a man from something like paid sex is an abridgment of his own free will.

Without pornography and prostitution how would some young people ever get skilled with female kind.....

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 05.02.2011 at 14:28

Without pornography and prostitution how would some young people ever get skilled with female kind.....

Yeah, but the number of "instructors" is insane nowadays. If you take the ads section in any newspaper where I live, the "personal services" category, and we all know what that stands for, is full of them.

If the police really wanted to sanction prostitution they wouldn't even have to go out on the streets. All they would need is a phone and a newspaper.

Written by [user id=112141] on 05.02.2011 at 19:17

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 05.02.2011 at 14:28

Without pornography and prostitution how would some young people ever get skilled with female kind.....

Yeah, but the number of "instructors" is insane nowadays. If you take the ads section in any newspaper where I live, the "personal services" category, and we all know what that stands for, is full of them.

If the police really wanted to sanction prostitution they wouldn't even have to go out on the streets. All they would need is a phone and a newspaper.

Or just to make it legal (I think that is better choice)

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 05.02.2011 at 14:28

Without pornography and prostitution how would some young people ever get skilled with female kind.....

not prostitution, but porno
1th pussy I saw was on TV I mena open legs
I was 15 4 o clock at night I turn on TV X Zone and there was guy fucks a girl and I saw pussy and cum, also anal sex and I was lil shoked actualy
1th 10 porn scenes was like WOW then I use to it

Written by Bad English on 05.02.2011 at 21:28

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 05.02.2011 at 14:28

Without pornography and prostitution how would some young people ever get skilled with female kind.....

not prostitution, but porno
1th pussy I saw was on TV I mena open legs
I was 15 4 o clock at night I turn on TV X Zone and there was guy fucks a girl and I saw pussy and cum, also anal sex and I was lil shoked actualy
1th 10 porn scenes was like WOW then I use to it

same with me....as for prostitution some friends of mine have their first time with some "salesgirl of love"....I've meant on that.....