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Ensiferum's golden age: Jari vs. Petri



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Original post

Posted by MétalNoir, 17.11.2009 - 16:11
Now that Ensiferum have released two full-length albums with Petri in the line-up, the long-awaited duel is open. Swordsmen, take arms against each others and seal this heroic destiny! Which captain shall you follow into the battle?

PS: This is not just about vocals or guitar skills: it's about Ensiferum before and after Jari's departure.

Poll

Ensiferum's best vocalist/guitarist (so far...)?

Jari Mäenpää
121
Petri Lindroos
44

Total votes: 165
21.11.2009 - 09:43
Beowulf
I'm going with Petri. Don't get me wrong I love the earlier albums but I think that too many of the songs with Yari were just about sorrow. But thats just my opinion.
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21.11.2009 - 18:00
Urizen367
I like petri, but jari is better. i firmly believe jari held a lot back for Ensiferum, and wintersun is proof of this. jari's voice (both clean and growly) is very heroic sounding. whereas Petri's is more, i guess, monotonous. i dont hate it, but it is pretty much the same vocal style in most every song (not all. just most). both of them are great musicians, and they are both way up on my top list of influential singer/guitarists.

and secondly @Beowulf: yeah, jari does sing a lot about sorrow doesnt he? just noticed that too. even in wintersun. especially in wintersun
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22.11.2009 - 18:11
ja-vi
Had to vote for Petri, even though I like the first two albums very much. This was more like a "counterreaction" to the fact that Jari and Wintersun are ridiculously overrated. I mean Wintersun is good, but c'mon, it's not like the wheel was reinvented there or anything...
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22.11.2009 - 20:16
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
Written by ja-vi on 22.11.2009 at 18:11

Had to vote for Petri, even though I like the first two albums very much. This was more like a "counterreaction" to the fact that Jari and Wintersun are ridiculously overrated. I mean Wintersun is good, but c'mon, it's not like the wheel was reinvented there or anything...

As a matter of fact, hardly half Wintersun songs are "really" good, IMO... Other four tracks are looong and saaad. And the word "death" is said like one fucking million times on the album. That's SO cliché.
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23.11.2009 - 21:44
Until the End
Written by MétalNoir on 21.11.2009 at 00:46

Written by Until the End on 20.11.2009 at 02:00

Probably the easiest decision I've ever made.

Which means???

Jari.
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24.11.2009 - 00:18
His Eminence
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I really really enjoy Ensiferum's new album From Afar, but as a whole I think Jari was better for the band. Some of my favorite tracks are from Iron, moreso than any release with Petri on it. However, the work released with Petri is very solid.
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24.11.2009 - 08:02
savalegion
Petri should go back to norther.
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24.11.2009 - 18:53
Rozz
Written by [user id=28338] on 23.11.2009 at 22:24

Written by Rozz on 19.11.2009 at 15:09

Hahahaha fuckin funny, jari is finland's best guitarst never compare petri again it's an insult

haha ofc Rowan, Jari is the best!

but im better then them both im the best finnish guitarest =D
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25.11.2009 - 06:16
opeth771
I think Petri fits the band much better vocally, but we all know Jari is a MUCH BETTER songwritter and guitarist than Petri!
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27.11.2009 - 02:32
Rozz
Written by [user id=28338] on 25.11.2009 at 01:30

Written by Rozz on 24.11.2009 at 18:53

Written by [user id=28338] on 23.11.2009 at 22:24

Written by Rozz on 19.11.2009 at 15:09

Hahahaha fuckin funny, jari is finland's best guitarst never compare petri again it's an insult

haha ofc Rowan, Jari is the best!

but im better then them both im the best finnish guitarest =D



haha yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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29.11.2009 - 20:19
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
I voted for Petri...though debut Ensiferum album is great, Iron still very good and Victory Songs are slightly weaker, the new album convinced me fully, that the "new Ensiferum" are worth enough
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30.11.2009 - 16:10
Joutenheim
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Jari for me
great composer
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30.11.2009 - 19:55
Sacred Viking
I like new Ensiferum+Norther more than old Ensiferum+Wintersun so i vote for Petri :p
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04.12.2009 - 02:59
PETRI rulez m/
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04.12.2009 - 19:29
HugeTheConqeror
Gotta go with Petri on this one. Jari may be a better player, but as a whole, the band has become more melodic in the Petri era. "From Afar" is head and shoulders my favorite Ensiferum album, and the greater variety in the vocals is one of the reasons.
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05.12.2009 - 23:25
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
Written by [user id=26446] on 04.12.2009 at 09:00

One of the DUMBEST questions ever asked period it's not even close they are worlds apart and Petri sucks so much in Ensiferum it's laughable.

Thank you for calling me dumb... and please notice the fact that, as I am writing, more than 25% of the voters went for Petri, which means you're calling them dumb, too. And it's not Jari vs Petri, it's Ensiferum as a whole, before and after Jari's departure. Dumb comment, btw.
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06.12.2009 - 23:19
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
You have to understand, you are obviously dumb in one's eyes if you dont agree with him...for some people you are "dumb" if you like Burzum, for others you are dumb if you dont like Burzum and dont respect Varg as musician, for someone you are dumb when liking Petri singing in Ensiferum
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08.12.2009 - 13:41
Valaskjalf
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There was a moment on the new Ensiferum album where I thought "damn man this shit sounds like the good old days" then Petri fucked it in the ass.

So yeah...jari = win

And who cares if Jari or Wintersun is overrated? most of the people who say that listen to like 50 bands who others think are overrated so its really a stupid argument. When a band is popular some people will think its great others will think its monkey cock just because the band gets a lot of attention....perfectly logical.
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08.12.2009 - 20:28
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
Written by [user id=26446] on 08.12.2009 at 07:22

Written by MétalNoir on 05.12.2009 at 23:25

Written by [user id=26446] on 04.12.2009 at 09:00

One of the DUMBEST questions ever asked period it's not even close they are worlds apart and Petri sucks so much in Ensiferum it's laughable.

Thank you for calling me dumb... and please notice the fact that, as I am writing, more than 25% of the voters went for Petri, which means you're calling them dumb, too. And it's not Jari vs Petri, it's Ensiferum as a whole, before and after Jari's departure. Dumb comment, btw.

No worries seriously but everyone has thier own opinion and I said what I feel about Ensiferum both before Jari left and after that as for you as a person well I couldn't care less if you are dumb or as smart as Steven Hawking.

That's much better.
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10.12.2009 - 13:43
robbator666
Does anybody have some info about Wintersun project, except those from official site? Please priv me if so, I wait so long now for the next release...
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25.01.2010 - 20:18
Wiccio
Jari: there is no comparison.
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04.02.2010 - 13:18
Hylia
I only liked the band when Jari was in it. I'm really not a fan of Petri's vocals.
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08.02.2010 - 21:57
jrk
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Petri has got more balls put into his vocals = pete ftw
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21.05.2010 - 18:50
rob904
Jari and Petri should just go back where they belong, Ensiferum and Norther. Don't get me wrong I like Wintersun, but the new Ensiferum album sounded like Nightwish with growls, I doubt that would have had happened if Jari was still writing a good portion of the music. And Petri was the last original member of Norther.
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13.07.2010 - 11:49
Autius
Written by Rozz on 24.11.2009 at 18:53

Written by [user id=28338] on 23.11.2009 at 22:24

Written by Rozz on 19.11.2009 at 15:09

Hahahaha fuckin funny, jari is finland's best guitarst never compare petri again it's an insult

haha ofc Rowan, Jari is the best!

but im better then them both im the best finnish guitarest =D

But you arn't finnish.....

Anyways i hve to go fo petri, i love his black metalish vocals and it goes really good with the music
and i am not a big ensuferium (sorry i always have trouble spelling it)fan, but i absolutly love from Afar, i also have been able to find alot more extreme power elements in it also,(not sure if petri contributed or not) which also has it more appieling to me ( i like norther 10 times more, well petri norther) and with Petri out of norther i can pratically guarrenty that Ensiferum well just get more melodic, becuase i am sure that Petri has alot of Melodic Death metal written and such and nowhere else to contribute but ensiferum. (Unless he goes and makes another band and has to leave ensiferum like jari)

But of course this is just theroretical
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17.07.2010 - 23:04
Wyrd
I love Jari's vocals. But Not nearly as much as Petri's. I think his voice just fits the music better then Jari's did. Plus I'm a big Norther fan
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17.07.2010 - 23:29
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
Written by Wyrd on 17.07.2010 at 23:04

I love Jari's vocals. But Not nearly as much as Petri's. I think his voice just fits the music better then Jari's did. Plus I'm a big Norther fan

A 91 year old metalhead? Cool!
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17.07.2010 - 23:45
Wyrd
Written by MétalNoir on 17.07.2010 at 23:29

Written by Wyrd on 17.07.2010 at 23:04

I love Jari's vocals. But Not nearly as much as Petri's. I think his voice just fits the music better then Jari's did. Plus I'm a big Norther fan

A 91 year old metalhead? Cool!

Age means nothing when it comes to metal
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18.07.2010 - 04:19
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
Written by Wyrd on 17.07.2010 at 23:45

Written by MétalNoir on 17.07.2010 at 23:29

Written by Wyrd on 17.07.2010 at 23:04

I love Jari's vocals. But Not nearly as much as Petri's. I think his voice just fits the music better then Jari's did. Plus I'm a big Norther fan

A 91 year old metalhead? Cool!

Age means nothing when it comes to metal

Except you're not actually 91, right? At least according to your profile. This is some kind of joke, I guess.
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18.07.2010 - 06:49
Wyrd
Written by MétalNoir on 18.07.2010 at 04:19

Written by Wyrd on 17.07.2010 at 23:45

Written by MétalNoir on 17.07.2010 at 23:29

Written by Wyrd on 17.07.2010 at 23:04

I love Jari's vocals. But Not nearly as much as Petri's. I think his voice just fits the music better then Jari's did. Plus I'm a big Norther fan

A 91 year old metalhead? Cool!

Age means nothing when it comes to metal

Except you're not actually 91, right? At least according to your profile. This is some kind of joke, I guess.

It was a joke for awhile. until l I just stopped caring
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