The most difficult genre to get into
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Posted by Bitch Boy, 16.03.2007 - 01:25
I know that many people seem to take a lot to get into progressive metal, for example, and I don't know why, but I supposed it's because this whole experimentation with complex structures and stuff. In the other hand, and based on the number of fans of each band, I can see that doom metal is one of the most "unpopular" (¿?) or the hardest genre to get into for most of the people here in Metal Storm (especially funeral doom).
The genre that has taken me the most to get into is death metal, basically the pure death, technical death and brutal death. I don't know why this happens to me as I don't dislike grunts, and I would say that the only death metal form I appreciate is melo-death (including gothenburg) or death metal fusions with other genres like death/doom or death/prog.
So, what do you think it is the most difficult genre to get in?
| Arian Totalis The Philosopher Posts: 3351  |
Written by Valentin B on 16.03.2007 at 19:35 Oh I like sabbath, I like some Doom, but not all Doom is the same as Sludge. If you want sludge listen to Sleep or Cult of Luna, Gods! How do people listen to that Sh**. But I do Like St. Vitus and Cathedral as well as Sabbath, but they are all more like Trad Doom bands, not really straight sludge. Maby I'm thinking of Drone Sludge or whatever it's called. One of my friends is a real big fan of the stuff and he says it's pretty much written to get stoned to.
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| Daru Jericho Posts: 2098  |
Drone doom, maybe? Avant garde? (If we're considering it metal) I like all genres of metal, myself. Obviously I like a lot more than others. Prog metal must be hard to get into because I haven't met any prog metallers over here! And I've met self-proclaimed post-black metallers, trad doomers, tech/brutal death metallers and more black metallers than anything. It's odd because bands like Dream Theater, Opeth, Ayreon, Porcupine Tree are really popular but I guess some people can't handle bands like Green Carnation and Pain Of Salvation? I dunno. Maybe it's just the London metallers.
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| The Alchemist Metalchemist Posts: 1589  |
Written by Daru Jericho on 17.03.2007 at 01:25 I've heard only Pain Of Salvation, yes, I can't get into this kind of music, or at least for the moment, getting into these bands requires time and dedication. I guess that this is like that for some people
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 61811  |
Written by The Alchemist on 17.03.2007 at 05:07 I agree its hard to get in thos bands and well Im not big fan of them ewen how I try
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| Stigmatized .......... Posts: 3820  |
I had a hard time getting into black metal, but now I find I can enjoy several bands of that genre. It's still not my favorite genre, but it's up there.
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| Daru Jericho Posts: 2098 |
Written by The Alchemist on 17.03.2007 at 05:07 When I first heard POS I wasn't so keen on them either and already enjoyed a helluva load of prog metal bands. Now they're one of my favourite bands.
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| Dark Cornatus Powerslave Elite Posts: 4330  |
I seriously dont understand the genre label Avant garde... all it means is something different, so what makes this genre so different to others? Ulver change style all the time, they started Folk/Black Metal, went Pure Black Metal, then started using elecronic sounds, and changed their sound completely, so why avant garde? Ulver changed about as much as Therion did, so why arent Therion avant garde, they sound like noone else. I just think it is the vaguest description and shouldnt be used. The hardest genre to get into for me is Grindcore, or Gore Death. I just cant get into this stuff. Technical Death Metal i love though.
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| Bitch Boy Posts: 1353  |
Written by Dark Cornatus on 18.03.2007 at 01:20 Well I think that an accurate definition for Avantgarde metal would be experimenting with non-conventional stuff and techniques, but still has a metal basis. I think it's wrong to define as avantgarde a band that is usually changing its genre (like those examples you mentioned: Ulver or Therion). I suppose that avantgarde is hard to get into depending on the band, not on the genre itself.
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| Arian Totalis The Philosopher Posts: 3351 |
Written by Dark Cornatus on 18.03.2007 at 01:20 Well, Avant Garde means "experimental" and is generally characterized by things such as Time Changes (but not like Dream theater crazy) Electronic noises and unheard of crossovers (Such as Black metal and Industrial) I don't listenb to Ulver and I've only ever heard one therion album, so I can't really ahelp you with them specifically. I do know that the therion Album I heard would be considered more in the Symphonic/Operatic metal area.
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| Dark Cornatus Powerslave Elite Posts: 4330 |
Written by Arian Totalis on 18.03.2007 at 05:11 No sorry, you missed my point. I wasnt saying Therion was Avant Garde, but someone above was caling Ulver Avant Garde, and to me, Ulver is like Therion, because they change style often, of course they are nothing alike, but they amount of genres they have crossed into is insane. So both cannot be Avant Garde. Avant Garde means experimental, yes, but many bands use experimental techniques in their work, i mean look at Opera IX, they were clearly experimenting with sounds in their first two albums. My point is, Avant Garde is too vague to be a separate genre, but calling something Avant Garde Prog Metal for example, is a clear defination, and works. Maybe i just have a different opinion over it. Anyway lol.
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| Bitch Boy Posts: 1353 |
@ Dark Cornatus: "avantgarde prog" sounds like a contradiction to me  but I get your point, maybe avantgarde doom or avantgarde black are more accurate definitions than just "avantgarde". But as I've said, avantgarde metal itself does exist and I think is a very misunderstood genre.
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| buki of steel Crystal Ann Posts: 1212  |
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Quote: I know what you mean man... black metal and me are like the same magnet sides Quote: Try reading for a start 
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 61811 |
Written by [user id=22499] on 20.03.2007 at 22:57 This is not wrigt place to ask it and read a faq [url] http://www.metalstorm.ee/home/faq.php[/url]
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| Judas The Amputator Posts: 2043  |
I can't stand Gore Death Metal and Grind whatsoever, and a lot of Doom and Prog is wasted on me, I don't have that kind of patience. Having said that, I love epics from Power, Folk/Viking and Black Metal bands, and there are some bands from the Doom and Prog areas that I do enjoy, just not as many as from other genres.
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| Anathemani@c Posts: 449  |
As Judas said, I cannot stand gore death metal.. But this topic has nothing to do with our likings or the genres we cannot stand.. Anyway, I think black metal is the most difficult genre to get into, and then deathcore, grind etc are too difficult genres too
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| nana.MD Star-Queen Posts: 2052  |
hmm...i think it would be death...specially technical death metal...it's not that easy to understand, like and get into...imo it's great but i've noticed most metalheads i know don't...shame, really...
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| Hembrom Diabolic Priest Posts: 1388  |
Written by buki of steel on 21.03.2007 at 01:20 Its ok that you find BM very difficult to get into .... but i have no idea why you hate it !! Not liking any genre and hating it is two different thing isnt ?? But what i think is if someone like Extreme metal , no matter what he/she will enjoy black metal. 
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| iaberis Advice Troll Posts: 1698  |
I'll vote too for Death Metal. You have to be long in the scene so you can actually accept the rough vocals and growls. When I got into metal, I despised it, but as more and more time passes, I'm becoming more friendly to the idea... But I still dislike it
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| buki of steel Crystal Ann Posts: 1212 |
Written by Hembrom on 24.03.2007 at 10:07 i just put "hate it" that my post look longer well,i like extreme metal but not black metal and still dont know why but hey... thrash till death!!!! 
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