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i think people should differentiate between Nu Metal and Rapcore. They share many similarities but, Rapcore tend to... well rap, while most Nu metal bands would have very little or no rapping.
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iaberis Advice Troll
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Written by ☭ Mr. S ☭ on 31.03.2008 at 03:03
i think people should differentiate between Nu Metal and Rapcore. They share many similarities but, Rapcore tent to... well rap, while most Nu metal bands would have very little or no rapping.
Yeah, I've been thinking about it too... Rage Against The Machine can't be compared with Nu Metal... it's different...
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me personally i think nu metal sucks but what i also think sucks is that every fucking body wants to disect metal into smaller categories metal is metal...just not new metal lol
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Written by [user id=34145] on 13.09.2008 at 08:30
me personally i think nu metal sucks but what i also think sucks is that every fucking body wants to disect metal into smaller categories metal is metal...just not new metal lol
yea i agree to a point. i think that there is metal which is the general overall term for everything metal. then it branches in thrash, death, speed, power and some others. the main point is that everything is classed as metal except Nu Metal which is not metal. it is crap everything that is nu metal should be destroyed. one last thought everythinks that linkin park started the nu metal wave! have you heard coal chamber? its even worse than LP.
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I really don't see the point of this article. You're basically telling us the definition of nu-metal and your own conceptions of how it is an evolution in metal. Alright first of all i'm pretty sure 99% of the people on this site know what nu-metal is, and second of all metal is not an organism, it's just a diverse style of music. With your logic on why metal would be an organism, everything from clothes to food to dishwashers could be organisms, which they are not.
Many metal musicians just experiment with new sounds and styles; some results of this such as Thrash or Death metal are favourable but others like nu-metal just sound plain bad to most metal fans. In addition, the styles nu-metal bands incorporate are so different from traditional metal that many believe this style shouldn't even be classified as metal.
That's all; metals not an organism, nu-metal is sure as hell not a sign that metal's doing well, people of this generation shouldn't listen to it just to follow their times and most metal fans hate it...deal with it.
P.S. no one hates nu-metal because other people do, it just sucks lol.
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Mmmmk. First of all, I'm guessing you aren't a native English speaker because there are little tidbits here and there that indicate as much. Having said that, the article is well written. You have a good command of the language sir.
Now fasten your seat belt.
As far as nu-metal is concerned or what I like to call Complete Fucking Garbage, I'll have to disagree. I'm not obligated to listen to anything I don't want to nor make any sort of an attempt to understand it or what it represents or where it even came from. I grew up listening to Black Sabbath so I'm supposed to give Slipknot or Korn a chance? I don't think so. I've heard both bands and I'd rather (I deleted the expletives here).
Nu-metal is basically a bunch of talentless turds who got together and used their trust funds to put together a band. Then, with the help of someone in the music industry, they discovered what sells and what doesn't. As long as that money is rolling in they'll keep producing the same no-talent drivel year after year. Basically what Metallica decided to do after Cliff's death
For me it's about the quality of the music and not the bullshit that comes along with it. I don't give a shit if a band has to wear scary masks or eat their own feces on stage as long as they can play. If Madonna set herself on fire during her next tour I'd be mildly interested (as long as she jumped into the crowd while still on fire), but it doesn't mean her music is any good. I want good music, not a circus act.
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Whats the deal with not playing the day that never comes
I just dont understand
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I don't think nu-metal is an evolution of metal, it's more like a way to reach more audience, joining trendy values that MTV and other fountains of money have interest. It's more like a virus that soon will be banned of metal, because the main purpose is another thing than music. Maybe money, maybe just sucess.. but not the pleasure of creation, something that the founders of other styles like In Flames or Mayhem (just as examples of death and black metal) had. That's why Slipknot or Korn are almost forgotton right now, 5 or 6 years after the 'boom'
Anyway iaberis, thanks for your impression about this theme.
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What I can say is that NU Metal is for the kids today. A lot of them say razor sharp guitar solos in Heavy Metal are boring compared to the adrenaline pumping riffs of NU Metal.
I think it has something to do with their listening skills. We shouldn't forget that listening is a skill. The more you listen and focus intently, the more it improves.
One of my theories behind NU Metal kids being bored is what I call, the I-Envy-These-Bands-Who-are-virtuosos-so-I-chose-to-listen-to-average-NUmetal-which-I-think-I-can-play-and-listen-to-with-less-effort-and-when-their-time-is-over-i-can-just-replace-it-with-the-next-fad-if-ever-there-is.
For me, NU Metal is like a man filled with huge amounts of adrenaline at first, but once it runs out, it is out forever and I can go on through a whole year without ever longing for it.
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Of course Metal evolves and of course it's okay to borrow pieces from other genres. But why must it evolve to something so bad and it's only okay to borrow from other genres as long as I found it to be good. When it comes to music only one person is right about things and such, and that is you yourself. And therefore I believe that 99 % of all Nu Metal I've heard suck.
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DayFly
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Good article. But to be honest, it's not really about nu-metal, now, is it?
I'll never understand why people are so overtly bothered by nu-metal or nowadays emo and metalcore.
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Great article. The old ''I hate nu metal'' is getting so lame that reach the ridiculous...
It's easier to hate some cheesy Power, Folk or Gothic metal bands than much of Nu Metal has to offer.
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adean_bllzr
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"Think in Metallica and how they changed their music in their latest album, St. Anger, to access the young people and a wider audience."
They didn´t need a wider audience. They needed money to treat their adictions and because of that they did this commercial shit.
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iaberis Advice Troll
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Written by adean_bllzr on 26.04.2010 at 06:22
"Think in Metallica and how they changed their music in their latest album, St. Anger, to access the young people and a wider audience."
They didn´t need a wider audience. They needed money to treat their adictions and because of that they did this commercial shit.
now that was nasty!
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Written by iaberis on 27.04.2010 at 01:31
Written by adean_bllzr on 26.04.2010 at 06:22
"Think in Metallica and how they changed their music in their latest album, St. Anger, to access the young people and a wider audience."
They didn´t need a wider audience. They needed money to treat their adictions and because of that they did this commercial shit.
now that was nasty!
Just the truth (and I am a big Metallica´s fan)
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I_Die_Often
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I like KORN and Slipknot, I like Stuck Mojo and Suicidal Tendencies, I like Dying Fetus and Nile, I like Dimmu Borgir and Emperor, I like Opeth...
I like what I like regardless of genres. That's my personal taste.
I like the so called Nu Metal Slayer and Machine Head albums!
And if Nu metal has something I want to hear, I will listen, if I don't like it, I won't listen.
If we all had the same tastes, music would be stagnant and really fuckin boring!!!
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Saeed_p
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I think one of the great nu forever is mudvayne
no band can sucks like them
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Nu metal is not evolution. It is bastardizing metal for record labels to make money off of.
Also, what do you mean, follow your times? Seems like your saying, "Your bands are soooo last week, Korn is all the rage now! Be with the kool kids!" Sorry, I listen to good music, not trendy music.
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Ill Nino is sick. I think they're considered Nu Metal, but whatever.
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Guib Thrash Talker
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@iaberis
Wow man, I've seen people hating on you for this article... and I just can't understand.
Why would someone attack your musical taste to prove a point ?
(Quote: iaberis, how broad is your taste in music, exactly? Because I really fail to see how someone with extensive rock & metal knowledge could classify nu metal as subgenre of metal music.)
Yeah yeah, of course buddy, there is no way Nu Metal ressemble Metal lol no power chords, no distorsion, no scream, no shredding, no breakdowns.... ? anyways
I just think people should 1. think before judging someone's taste
2. don't argue about taste
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Nu-Metal, I feel, is just a label created by music journalists and attached to a group of alternative metal bands that were emerging into the mainstream at approximately the same time
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Written by john_rossdale on 30.03.2012 at 12:41 Nu-Metal, I feel, is just a label created by music journalists and attached to a group of alternative metal bands that were emerging into the mainstream at approximately the same time
Pretty much. I mean all the nu metal bands people claim are nu metal bands don't typically embody many characteristics of whatever nu metal is supposed to be. Alternative metal? Sure. But nu metal in itself was supposed to be metal + rap, which was more or less limited to Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park if you wanna call either of them metal.
But bands like Mudvayne I wouldn't call nu metal because they don't have any rap or hip hop elements in their music.
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Written by [user id=34045] on 24.10.2008 at 22:02
metal is not an organism, it's just a diverse style of music. With your logic on why metal would be an organism, everything from clothes to food to dishwashers could be organisms, which they are not.
but.....
my dishwasher just evolved a mouth and ate the sink....
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Of course nu-metal as a term was invented by journalists.
First a band such as Korn was labeled spookycore and then New Metal which morphed into Nu/Nü Metal
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.03.2012 at 19:08 First a band such as Korn was labeled spookycore
Daaaaamn that's bad and people then whine about the name Nü Metal...
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Maybe the label was created by a journalists, but the riffing of Limp Bizkit, Korn, Slipknot, ect, are all pretty similar even if the bands are notably different in style. Downtuned guitar with midpaced, simplistic riffs, with the vocals using hip hop-esque rhythm, often times shouted.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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After all, Nu-Metal is all about this only. They won't be going too innovative over the desired level. People are still accepting graciously what these bands do (except Korn and Linkin Park>> which they now classified as a leading electronic stuff and are ostracized heavily ) and you know what? Ill Nino, P. O. D, Adema, Biscuit will still make a mediocre music ass long as their fans are happy.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
When I think nu-metal I think of "newer" "metal" I hear on radio...Disturbed, Korn, Slipnot, etc
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It's true that Nu-Metal bands do tend to take quite alot of criticism, some of it quite unfairly I think. But Nu-Metal was the first genre I felt was "mine", and I was really into it.. Its the genre that inspired to learn how to play a guitar.. Perhaps people look down their noses at it for the reason that its a blend of rap and metal, which are two pretty diverse styles of music and it was pretty rare..
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Nu-Metal is still a genre I listen to on a fairly regular basis, although not as much as I used to back in the day. I was a major Limp Bizkit fan, and also loved the early Linkin Park and Papa Roach stuff too, plus plenty of other bands too.
For me, I still limp with the Bizkit occasionally, "Infest" and "Hybrid Theory" still have alot of songs that I like, and while I can see that Limp Bizkit do have alot of childish lyrics and Fred Durst is a complete asshole, I still love to hear "My Generation", "Nookie", "Break Stuff", "Take A Look Around", "My Way" and "Re-Arranged" when they come on shuffle on my I-Pod.
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