Black Metal: Immortal
Death Metal: Bolt Thrower
Grindcore: Carcass
Technical Death Metal: Decapitated
Doom Metal: Candlemass
Progressive Metal: Opeth
Thrash Metal: Kreator

Black Metal : Old Mayhem
Death Metal / Technical Death Metal : Morbid Angel
Doom Metal : -
Grindcore : -
Progressive Metal : Opeth
Thrash Metal : Tankard

"Old" Mayhem aren't the leaders of black metal by definition, since their contemporary stuff obviously doesn't continue to lead in the same way.
Morbid Angel have never been a tech-death band (just an fyi), and between Heretic and IDI, not many people believe they're leading anything but Jack and shit (and Jack left town).

Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.01.2012 at 20:50

Morbid Angel have never been a tech-death band

I didn't say that.

Written by Infernal Eternal on 26.02.2012 at 22:54

Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.01.2012 at 20:50

Morbid Angel have never been a tech-death band

I didn't say that.

uhhhh...

Written by Infernal Eternal on 01.01.2012 at 17:20


Death Metal / Technical Death Metal : Morbid Angel

Black Metal: King Diamond
Death Metal: Death
Grindcore: Napalm Death
Technical Death Metal:
Doom Metal: Black Sabbath
Progressive Metal: Dream Theater
Thrash Metal: Slayer

This would all depend on whether or not you consider a band that is no longer around, or not around in it's original form, to still be able to be the leader of a genre based on influence. Either way, here are my choices.

-Black Metal: Watain
I'm a pretty big Watain fanboy. On some days they manage to be my number two favorite band putting material out right now. With that being said I think that Watain is really on to something with the way they bring in thrash and progressive/melodic elements into their brand of Black Metal almost subversively. Lawless Darkness doesn't share a whole lot in common with Casus Luciferi, but I'm ok with that. I don't see them as being outside the Black Metal genre so much as reinvigorating it in, what is for me, an exciting way.
-Death Metal: Cannibal Corpse
I think that Death Metal has gotten to be just as unoriginal as people constantly blame Black Metal for being, but Cannibal Corpse has never failed me. That's about the extent of my logic on this one. I could think of a lot of Death Metal bands that I'm enjoying the shit out of now and have in the past but Cannibal Corpse was just the first that sprung to mind.
-Technical Death Metal: Obscura
I'm going with my gut on who I think is doing the coolest thing with this sub-genre as of this moment. I realize they may not be the most influential or renowned blah blah blah....but whatever. They get my head banging and have me squeezing invisible oranges so yeah, they get my vote. For now....
-Doom Metal: Sunn O)))
I'll probably get flamed for choosing them since they are more ambient/drone than doom but fuck it. I just recently started listening to them (I know...I know...) and they are blowing my brain out through my colon as of this moment so that puts them at the forefront. At least in my own personal opinion it does.
-Prog Metal: Cormorant
These guys really need more exposure. Opeth is cool but are more of a rock band in my eyes and have been for some time. Cormorant is hands down the most interesting and creative Prog Metal band around right now IMO and need to be checked by everybody and anybody interested at all in heavy music. Metezoa was practically perfect and for me Dwellings was even better (darker?) and a big step forward for them as far as tightening up their sound.
-Thrash Metal: Slayer/Kreator
Ok so I made this a tie because these two bands, for me at least, are/were the perfect Thrash Metal band(s). They may not be creating the same blend of Metal they once did but their past efforts comprise a sort of blueprint for the genre in my mind. As far as I'm concerned there isn't a single new Thrash band out there doing anything near what they accomplished. So the honor goes to these two straight up.

Black Metal - Emperor - Even though they have broken up, their influence is still felt even to this day, and their albums are still heavily clamored from fans.

Death Metal - Cannibal Corpse - One of the most solid death metal bands out at the moment, doing what they do best, and everyone's gotta love them for that.

Grindcore - Aborted - I know these guys are more like "Death"grind as opposed to Grind "core", but this is the only band of this variety I can think of that has a ton of respect and recognition from the metal world.

Technical Death Metal - Necrophagist - I know these guys have a very strong following, sure I'm not the biggest fan of tech death, but I am aware of their popularity amongst the tech death fan movement.

Doom Metal - Katatonia - They are more alternative now, as opposed to doom, but they still have strong doom elements in their music, and a large following of devoted fans like myself.

Progressive Metal - Opeth - The ratings of their albums on Metal Storm speaks for itself, basically all within the green range except for Orchid and Heritage. It goes to show how many people love this band, including myself obviously.

Thrash Metal - Megadeth - I'm not the biggest Megadeth fan (let alone thrash metal fan period), but even though I personally consider Megadeth overrated, a lot of people still praise and worship this band almost as a deity, essentially claiming Dave and company can do no wrong, because of the idiotic mistakes Metallica has made.

Written by CobiWan1993 on 08.10.2012 at 21:24


Death Metal - Cannibal Corpse - One of the most solid death metal bands out at the moment, doing what they do best, and everyone's gotta love them for that.

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for me they were generic when they started and they are still generic to this day. Ffs I even respect Decide more than these guys.


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Doom Metal - Katatonia - They are more alternative now, as opposed to doom, but they still have strong doom elements in their music, and a large following of devoted fans like myself.

Have had totally no influence on the doom metal scene whatsover after Brave Murder Day, so from Discouraged ONes afterwards.

And even before that they were more followers (like following Paradise Lost) than setters

Not sure if the opening post is asking 'in history' or 'right now'. Leading could mean 'most inspirational and important to the development of the genre from the beginning' or it could mean 'currently the band that is taking this genre forward and keeping it exciting'.

I'm going to go by the second definition because it's a lot more interesting to me. Origins and roots are just way over discussed by the metal crowd. It's kind of boring at this point.

So, my vote for contemporary leaders in their genres, currently playing and pushing their genre forward are:

Black Metal - Deathspell Omega. There's actually a lot of good black metal right now with a lot of new ideas and new ways to develop the atmosphere. This is one of the few that is still spouting about satan, eloquently and poetically. But that's not why I picked them. They are pioneering a brilliant sound and consistently put out great music. Awesome band.

Death Metal - Nile, I'd say. They're still putting out some kickass weird stuff. I've always liked their style, not too traditional. I think it's a little strange here to make a distinction between Death Metal and Tech Death on this list. There's really not a huge difference between the genres. Might as well add a category for the leading Goregrind band if we're gonna get that specific.

Grindcore - Pig Destroyer. Easy pick. This music is thoughtful and yet maintains a disastrously agressive and offensive tone. Scott Hull is paving the way with each devastating riff and JR Hayes has created a portal to hell with his lyrics. So excited for Book Burner.

Technical Death Metal - Is it weird that I still think Suffocation is the best? Still the most interesting and exciting to listen to. And after all these years Frank Mullen is still so angry at the floor. But seriously, I can't think of any other bands who pioneered a genre and twenty years later are still the forefront best.

Doom Metal - All right, you have me at a loss. This is a genre I know I will like but have never gotten into. My favorite part of Rwake songs are the doomy parts, but I don't think they are pioneering this genre. They are their own thing. Any suggestions?

Progressive Metal - Between the Buried and Me. Traditional prog metal doesn't cut it anymore. You can't just rip off dream theater and king crimson any more and expect respect. At the very leas rip off meshuggah (periphery). but yeah, BTBAM, with their last two releases have really put out some awesome progressive metal, that is fairly unique.

Thrash Metal - Does Absu count? This genre is tough for me because on the surface, from my perspective, it has not progressed far beyond Slayer. I feel the same way about Thrash as I do about the blues. I love elements of it intermixed in other styles of music, but on its own it's never really done it for me.

Black Metal - Dimmu borgir
Death Metal - death
Grindcore - not big fan of a grindcore
Technical Death Metal - same as grindcore
Doom Metal - draconian
Progressive Metal - dream theater
Thrash Metal - slayer

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Written by LichBorne on 11.10.2012 at 16:48

Death Metal - death

Only a couple of death metal albums most of their output wasn't death metal.


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Doom Metal - draconian

Almost nothing to do with doom metal. Most of it is way too gothic to be lumped into doom.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.10.2012 at 17:01
Almost nothing to do with doom metal. Most of it is way too gothic to be lumped into doom.

Let's not even mention the "leading" part.

Black Metal: Darkthrone
Death Metal: Obituary
Grindcore: Extreme Noise Terror
Technical Death Metal: Atheist
Doom Metal: Candlemass/Paradise Lost (tie)
Thrash Metal: Slayer

Black metal: Windir
Grindcore: Anaal Nathrakh
Doom metal: hard to choose, mm could be Empyrium atm even they are somewhat folk
Thrash: I prefer Metallica best...

Black Metal: Immortal
Death Metal: Death
Grindcore: Carcass
Technical Death Metal: Necrophagist
Doom Metal: Candlemass
Progressive Metal: Nevermore
Thrash Metal: Exodus

Black Metal: Absu or Aura Noir (cuz they got thrash in it)
Death Metal: Morbid Angel
Technical Death Metal: Atheist or Quo Vadis
Grindcore: Carcass or Cephalic Carnage
Thrash: new = Municipal Waste, old = Exodus
Prog: Mekong Delta

Written by Guib on 09.11.2012 at 02:44

Black Metal: Absu or Aura Noir (cuz they got thrash in it)
Death Metal: Morbid Angel
Technical Death Metal: Atheist or Quo Vadis
Grindcore: Carcass or Cephalic Carnage
Thrash: new = Municipal Waste, old = Exodus
Prog: Mekong Delta

Morbid Angel leading death, Carcass leading grind? As far as I know this isn't a "what's your fave bands of the genre" thread, but which band is leading it, I.e. at the moment.

Wouldn't call Mekong Delta prog either. Good band though, one of the few thrash bands I've heard with substantial substance.

Then again I see everyone has taken this thread in that way! Effectively rendering it pointless!

In my mind you can't "lead" a genre if you haven't made or made a good album in a decade +

Written by [user id=4365] on 09.11.2012 at 15:07

Then again I see everyone has taken this thread in that way! Effectively rendering it pointless!

In my mind you can't "lead" a genre if you haven't made or made a good album in a decade +

Well you see, the opening post doesn't mention a way to do it, or some kind of guideline, it just says... which bands DO YOU think leads these genre. So I don't think I did it wrong, I just did it my way lol. And the first post actually used Carcass aswell in the grind, and in case you didn't notice I also put Cephalic Carnage which did released albums in the past decade . And why not morbid angel leading, Im not a big fan of old school death metal I prefer Tech Death but they're probably the ones who sell the most so ?? And for Mekong Delta, it is prog... I don't see why it wouldn't be lol did you listen to visions fugitives ?. And Theres plenty of band having substance in thrash metal, its not cause you don't like them that they don't have substance. have fun man.

Written by Guib on 09.11.2012 at 18:18



Well you see, the opening post doesn't mention a way to do it, or some kind of guideline, it just says... which bands DO YOU think leads these genre. So I don't think I did it wrong, I just did it my way lol. And the first post actually used Carcass aswell in the grind, and in case you didn't notice I also put Cephalic Carnage which did released albums in the past decade . And why not morbid angel leading, Im not a big fan of old school death metal I prefer Tech Death but they're probably the ones who sell the most so ?? And for Mekong Delta, it is prog... I don't see why it wouldn't be lol did you listen to visions fugitives ?. And Theres plenty of band having substance in thrash metal, its not cause you don't like them that they don't have substance. have fun man.

Nah, prog has particular characteristics that Mekong doesn't have. I've listened to fair amount of thrash and the majority is very predictable, not much depth.

If you think Morbid Angel is leading, that's fair enough, but I'd recommend listening to more death for a broader understanding and leading to a more relevant answer

Man... Even if itsn't explicit in the opening post I still find it quite clear what "leading band" means. It's a recent thing... Naming old bands who haven't done anything for years and years or if they do it runs out to be major crap... that's not leading.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 09.11.2012 at 20:40

Man... Even if itsn't explicit in the opening post I still find it quite clear what "leading band" means. It's a recent thing... Naming old bands who haven't done anything for years and years or if they do it runs out to be major crap... that's not leading.

Agreed. Just look at the black metal post. Absu? Windir? Venom? Darkthrone? Immortal?
In what way? Just waiting for a Celtic Frost. Emperor. Or "Mayhem with Dead". Morbid!
I might be a typical swede here, but in my mind it's clearly Watain these days.

Written by Warman on 10.11.2012 at 00:04

Agreed. Just look at the black metal post. Absu? Windir? Venom? Darkthrone? Immortal?
In what way? Just waiting for a Celtic Frost. Emperor. Or "Mayhem with Dead". Morbid!
I might be a typical swede here, but in my mind it's clearly Watain these days.

Watain would be a logical decision. Though I'm not crazy about them like many they do have the image, the clout and the momentum to spearhead the genre as the representative flag bearers.

Written by Warman on 10.11.2012 at 00:04
Agreed. Just look at the black metal post. Absu? Windir? Venom? Darkthrone? Immortal?
In what way? Just waiting for a Celtic Frost. Emperor. Or "Mayhem with Dead". Morbid!
I might be a typical swede here, but in my mind it's clearly Watain these days.

Well, Absu is quite a recent band but only in the way that they are still releasing good stuff but so doesn't really count. Not to say they are bad at all! I really like them but I just don't see it in them.

Watain on the other hand is a very reasonable example since like Joe pointed out: They do give a very clear image of Black metal both old and the modern kind.

Okay setting preferences aside I would currently go for:

Black Metal: Watain
Death Metal: Behemoth (unfortunately since there are way better bands out there)
Technical Death Metal: Obscura? (actually no idea who, but they released something recently which was hailed well in the tech death circles)
Grindcore: Pig Destroyer or maybe Cattle Decapitation
Thrash: Exodus (even though it pains me to say so when you lok at their last three albums)
Prog: Dream Theater, most proggies still seem to wet their panties over them
Doom: I am afraid it's still Candlemass and My DYing Bride although both are way over the hill

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.11.2012 at 01:13
Okay setting preferences aside I would currently go for:

Seems very accurate to me. Shame about Behemoth... Sad but true. Also: Daaang, doom definitely needs an update for leading bands.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.11.2012 at 01:13

Prog: Dream Theater, most proggies still seem to wet their panties over them

Agreed!
But seriously, I have a question for you who have been in the game for some time, haven't they always been the "leading band" since '92 or whatever?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.11.2012 at 01:13

Grindcore: maybe Cattle Decapitation

I don't think people even noticed them until The Harvest Floor was released a couple of years ago. They were just unoriginal grind until then.

Written by [user id=4365] on 09.11.2012 at 19:45

Written by Guib on 09.11.2012 at 18:18



Well you see, the opening post doesn't mention a way to do it, or some kind of guideline, it just says... which bands DO YOU think leads these genre. So I don't think I did it wrong, I just did it my way lol. And the first post actually used Carcass aswell in the grind, and in case you didn't notice I also put Cephalic Carnage which did released albums in the past decade . And why not morbid angel leading, Im not a big fan of old school death metal I prefer Tech Death but they're probably the ones who sell the most so ?? And for Mekong Delta, it is prog... I don't see why it wouldn't be lol did you listen to visions fugitives ?. And Theres plenty of band having substance in thrash metal, its not cause you don't like them that they don't have substance. have fun man.

Nah, prog has particular characteristics that Mekong doesn't have. I've listened to fair amount of thrash and the majority is very predictable, not much depth.

If you think Morbid Angel is leading, that's fair enough, but I'd recommend listening to more death for a broader understanding and leading to a more relevant answer

Like I told you before, I don't like oldschool death that much and I could say the same for you in thrash, I mean Vektor, Mekong, Anacrusis, Paradox, Forbidden, Meshuggah, Coroner, Realm, Toxik, Watchtower (...) pretty good in depth thrash lol its a matter of what you like and what you don't thats all. Yes there are some predictable thrash, to me its still good, but there is a fair amount of well thought thrash .