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Written by Deadmeat on 10.06.2011 at 20:00
well i am one of those who said that they dont need to show ALL their technical skills to create a good album. but i disagree in general with what you said mate. this album has some very nice songs and moments. Vortex Omnivium and Euclidean Elements are AWESOME songs for example. OK i dont feel that the band plays "masterpiece music" and i wont give them the "10" for this record (i'll give them a 9 probably) but they have evolved from Cosmogenesis, and they seem to try to play MUSIC behind of all this technicality. Ok, you couldnt get into this album. this doesnt mean that it is shit and that everyone who likes it is impressed by guitar masturbators etc....
If that's true why is there so much popularity where tech-death is concerned, considering a hefty chunk of it is musicianship over song quality? You can't deny there's a definite attraction to this style of music and that attraction is the purely technical side of it. Technical is the new Brutal as far as I'm concerned. As I say this isn't bad by a long stretch but I wouldn't throw any medals its way either. It's the "Cinema of Attractions" of music, or metal at least. It's just a perspective anyway.
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10.06.2011 - 20:43Rating: 8
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Written by [user id=4365] on 10.06.2011 at 20:19
Written by Deadmeat on 10.06.2011 at 20:00
well i am one of those who said that they dont need to show ALL their technical skills to create a good album. but i disagree in general with what you said mate. this album has some very nice songs and moments. Vortex Omnivium and Euclidean Elements are AWESOME songs for example. OK i dont feel that the band plays "masterpiece music" and i wont give them the "10" for this record (i'll give them a 9 probably) but they have evolved from Cosmogenesis, and they seem to try to play MUSIC behind of all this technicality. Ok, you couldnt get into this album. this doesnt mean that it is shit and that everyone who likes it is impressed by guitar masturbators etc....
If that's true why is there so much popularity where tech-death is concerned, considering a hefty chunk of it is musicianship over song quality? You can't deny there's a definite attraction to this style of music and that attraction is the purely technical side of it. Technical is the new Brutal as far as I'm concerned. As I say this isn't bad by a long stretch but I wouldn't throw any medals its way either. It's the "Cinema of Attractions" of music, or metal at least. It's just a perspective anyway.
Actually my favorite TDM songs are probably the ones with more melody and structure to it... not only the ones where they throw notes out randomly.
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Written by Guib on 10.06.2011 at 20:43
Actually my favorite TDM songs are probably the ones with more melody and structure to it... not only the ones where they throw notes out randomly.
Exactly, tech death bands that spice up their music with melody, interesting pacing (i.e. slowing down and breathing a bit) and other unusual effects are ones worth exploring. Anything that gives it a bit of personality and defines it from the rest of the pack.
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10.06.2011 - 20:50Rating: 8
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Written by [user id=4365] on 10.06.2011 at 20:45
Written by Guib on 10.06.2011 at 20:43
Actually my favorite TDM songs are probably the ones with more melody and structure to it... not only the ones where they throw notes out randomly.
Exactly, tech death bands that spice up their music with melody, interesting pacing (i.e. slowing down and breathing a bit) and other unusual effects are ones worth exploring. Anything that gives it a bit of personality and defines it from the rest of the pack.
For instance look at Quo Vadis... or the last album by Arsis.. lot of people disliked Starve... Don't know why, Actually I found it refreshing and quite different from their usual TDM work... they 'like you said' spiced up the thing with alot of great melodies and took the time to think instead of just bashing the strings like maniacs... probly why I loved it. IMO TDM should try not only to show off skills but work on their structure, Quo Vadis IMO are the best at that.
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Written by Guib on 10.06.2011 at 20:50
For instance look at Quo Vadis... or the last album by Arsis.. lot of people disliked Starve... Don't know why, Actually I found it refreshing and quite different from their usual TDM work... they 'like you said' spiced up the thing with alot of great melodies and took the time to think instead of just bashing the strings like maniacs... probly why I loved it. IMO TDM should try not only to show off skills but work on their structure, Quo Vadis IMO are the best at that.
I've actually never been all that into Quo Vadis' sound but they're a great band (well from the one album I heard). Arsis are great though, I was catching up with their first album and first EP the other day. Awesome stuff. Check out Gorod's 'Leading Vision' and Anata's ' The Conductor's Departure'
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10.06.2011 - 20:56Rating: 8
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Written by [user id=4365] on 10.06.2011 at 20:54
Written by Guib on 10.06.2011 at 20:50
For instance look at Quo Vadis... or the last album by Arsis.. lot of people disliked Starve... Don't know why, Actually I found it refreshing and quite different from their usual TDM work... they 'like you said' spiced up the thing with alot of great melodies and took the time to think instead of just bashing the strings like maniacs... probly why I loved it. IMO TDM should try not only to show off skills but work on their structure, Quo Vadis IMO are the best at that.
I've actually never been all that into Quo Vadis' sound but they're a great band (well from the one album I heard). Arsis are great though, I was catching up with their first album and first EP the other day. Awesome stuff. Check out Gorod's 'Leading Vision' and Anata's ' The Conductor's Departure'
Yep they're good... and u know if you're into more melodic TDM Quo vadis is the band to look into.
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Written by Gigantidild on 10.06.2011 at 02:44
LoL, Go to CoB shit and be the most mature person posting. Got to Obscura and everyone is politely sharing their thoughts on this album. xD
But I still love CoB even though their followers are extremely retarded.
SymphonyImpaled just rubbed me the worst way with that post. I can tell from his taste in music that he wouldn't really understand how amazing this album truly is so I cannot take his post seriously anymore. Just a really lame opinion on something never to be understood.
"Too many notes"
progressive death metal is the classical music of modern times.
"Too many notes" Haha I know what that's from...
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Written by Zap on 10.06.2011 at 21:04
Written by Gigantidild on 10.06.2011 at 02:44
LoL, Go to CoB shit and be the most mature person posting. Got to Obscura and everyone is politely sharing their thoughts on this album. xD
But I still love CoB even though their followers are extremely retarded.
SymphonyImpaled just rubbed me the worst way with that post. I can tell from his taste in music that he wouldn't really understand how amazing this album truly is so I cannot take his post seriously anymore. Just a really lame opinion on something never to be understood.
"Too many notes"
progressive death metal is the classical music of modern times.
"Too many notes" Haha I know what that's from...
Based on my music taste?
Hahaha. Goofy kid.
I've been listening to metal for over 10 years, i think i'd understand an album devoid of proper atmosphere when i hear it.
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Written by SymphonyImpaled on 10.06.2011 at 21:30
Written by Zap on 10.06.2011 at 21:04
Written by Gigantidild on 10.06.2011 at 02:44
LoL, Go to CoB shit and be the most mature person posting. Got to Obscura and everyone is politely sharing their thoughts on this album. xD
But I still love CoB even though their followers are extremely retarded.
SymphonyImpaled just rubbed me the worst way with that post. I can tell from his taste in music that he wouldn't really understand how amazing this album truly is so I cannot take his post seriously anymore. Just a really lame opinion on something never to be understood.
"Too many notes"
progressive death metal is the classical music of modern times.
"Too many notes" Haha I know what that's from...
Based on my music taste?
Hahaha. Goofy kid.
I've been listening to metal for over 10 years, i think i'd understand an album devoid of proper atmosphere when i hear it.
I just thought it was funny someone referred to Amadeus. I didn't say anything about you so please don't talk to me like I insulted you or your music taste. And 'Goofy kid'? Wow thanks.
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Written by Zap on 11.06.2011 at 00:37
Written by SymphonyImpaled on 10.06.2011 at 21:30
Written by Zap on 10.06.2011 at 21:04
Written by Gigantidild on 10.06.2011 at 02:44
LoL, Go to CoB shit and be the most mature person posting. Got to Obscura and everyone is politely sharing their thoughts on this album. xD
But I still love CoB even though their followers are extremely retarded.
SymphonyImpaled just rubbed me the worst way with that post. I can tell from his taste in music that he wouldn't really understand how amazing this album truly is so I cannot take his post seriously anymore. Just a really lame opinion on something never to be understood.
"Too many notes"
progressive death metal is the classical music of modern times.
"Too many notes" Haha I know what that's from...
Based on my music taste?
Hahaha. Goofy kid.
I've been listening to metal for over 10 years, i think i'd understand an album devoid of proper atmosphere when i hear it.
I just thought it was funny someone referred to Amadeus. I didn't say anything about you so please don't talk to me like I insulted you or your music taste. And 'Goofy kid'? Wow thanks.
I wasn't actually referring to you, mechanix. Just being lazy.
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16.06.2011 - 17:54Rating: 9
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
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Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
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but spoil thius film is like spoil porn and say porn ends whit cum shot ...
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17.06.2011 - 23:11Rating: 9
Written by Koen Smits on 16.06.2011 at 19:13
Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
the decapitated probably will be bullshit though...
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22.06.2011 - 20:05Rating: 9
Written by Koen Smits on 16.06.2011 at 19:13
Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
Not much of an Anata fan, but ya....I'm just stoked to hear what the other 2 bands have to offer us. It's gonna be fun !!!
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22.06.2011 - 20:06Rating: 9
Written by Deadmeat on 17.06.2011 at 23:11
Written by Koen Smits on 16.06.2011 at 19:13
Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
the decapitated probably will be bullshit though...
I really hope not.....guess U must have the heard Album Sampler by now on YouTube.
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22.06.2011 - 20:31Rating: 9
Written by Destructo on 22.06.2011 at 20:06
Written by Deadmeat on 17.06.2011 at 23:11
Written by Koen Smits on 16.06.2011 at 19:13
Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
the decapitated probably will be bullshit though...
I really hope not.....guess U must have the heard Album Sampler by now on YouTube.
well after listening to the samples i changed a bit my mind and this probably wont be bullshit but not good also (dont like the organic hallucinosis style)....
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24.06.2011 - 15:16Rating: 9
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Written by Koen Smits on 16.06.2011 at 19:13
Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
id have to agree....its just gotten better with time. and I sure hope anata actually does release this year
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Written by Koen Smits on 16.06.2011 at 19:13
Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
I really don't think the new Necrophagist will be released this year.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.06.2011 at 16:21
Written by Koen Smits on 16.06.2011 at 19:13
Written by Destructo on 16.06.2011 at 17:54
This is the Tech-Death album to beat this year. It's delicious !!!
Yeah, but new Anata, Decapitated and Necrophagist are yet to come.
I really don't think the new Necrophagist will be released this year.
Agreed. New Anata should give Obscura a run for their money, though.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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I'm really torn between this and Septic Flesh's The Great Mass for death metal album of 2011. But I'm a slut for tech death, so I'd probably have to go with Omnivium.
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MIXHELL
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09.08.2011 - 11:18Rating: 7
Omnivium <<< Cosmogenesis
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InnerSelf proofread free
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07.09.2011 - 00:31Rating: 8
This is actually really different from Cosmogenesis , that's what I got after the first play and this is a good thing I guess
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23.12.2011 - 08:49Rating: 10
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Strange album for me. Usually not my type of music (tech-death) and aside from "Ocean Gateways" there really isn't any songs that really grab me. All that being said, there's something I can't quite put my finger on that keeps drawing me back to this album...
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This is the fist time im listening to obscura
i think this is the kind of death metal stuffs i like
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07.01.2012 - 21:08Rating: 10
Hate all u want this is the pinnacle
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
07.01.2012 - 23:21Rating: 8
Written by crucifiedjesus on 07.01.2012 at 21:08 Hate all u want this is the pinnacle
I think its predecessor was better.
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Alex F
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03.02.2012 - 16:29Rating: 8
Previous album was better, but this one still kicks ass
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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That solo in Velocity... HOLY FUCK
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I detect a very strong hint of Morbid Angel on Ocean Gateways.
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Next album title from Obscura : Obscuragist! With Momo!?
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