Written by Angelic Storm on 25.05.2012 at 14:11
deathgrind

It's a hybrid of death and grind, which this album definitely is. The lengthier tracks, technical prowess, and guitar tuning all add to the album's death metal feel, while the spastic riffs and condensed compositions lend themselves to grind.

I would certainly call this album deathgrind and not grindcore. About as much death as grind in here, maybe even a little more death than grind.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.05.2012 at 22:17

I would certainly call this album deathgrind and not grindcore. About as much death as grind in here, maybe even a little more death than grind.

I definitely feel more death than grind but we are talking about 60-40 ratio i think or at the very most 65-35.

For me at least, the roots of almost all the album's tracks are in the grind genre. There's certainly a good dollop of technical death in there as well, but the raw, scathing chaos at the heart of most of tracks is definitely grind. The grind is the root from where the other aspects of the songs grow. For sure, I can see why some would hesitate in calling this a grind release, but I feel that at it's core, that's what it is. It's smart, intelligent grind for sure, but still grind nonetheless.

Anyhow, it can be hard making such a decisive judgement when trying to place an album in a sub-genre which is in itself, a derivative of a sub-genre.

Written by Angelic Storm on 25.05.2012 at 23:34
Anyhow, it can be hard making such a decisive judgement when trying to place an album in a sub-genre which is in itself, a derivative of a sub-genre.

You're probably just stuck on the band playing (gore)grind in the past, similar to how people still refer to Dimmu Borgir as a symphonic black metal band in spite of their recent releases containing very few black metal elements.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.05.2012 at 23:41
You're probably just stuck on the band playing (gore)grind in the past, similar to how people still refer to Dimmu Borgir as a symphonic black metal band in spite of their recent releases containing very few black metal elements.

I was waiting for someone to say this... And whilst you are wrong, the point you raised isn't entirely an invalid one.

I'm not well versed in Dimmu Borgir's music, so cannot make a comment on the comparison you've attempted to draw there. However, I certainly do not hear "very few" goregrind elements in MOI. So I would say if what you are saying about Dimmu is true, then the comparison is quite a weak one. Whilst it's certainly not as primitive as their previous releases (apart from "The Harvest Floor" perhaps), the goregrind style is still very much a fundamental element in the new Cattle Decapitation. The death metal, and in particular, the technical death and melodic elements certainly gives the album a much more expansive, and cavernous atmosphere than their earlier, primitive works. But for at least the majority of this album, the goregrind aspect of their sound is never far from the surface, and rises to it on numerous ocassions.

I definitely see the point you're trying to make, and it's not without validation. However, I feel CD have not strayed far enough away from their original style to slap a whole new genre tag on them. I would not argue much with anyone wishing to call MOI "deathgrind" though, as I can see why some people would call it that.

Written by Angelic Storm on 26.05.2012 at 00:03
I would not argue much with anyone wishing to call MOI "deathgrind" though, as I can see why some people would call it that.

I feel like it's a useless gesture trying to point out the obvious fact this is a deathgrind album to someone who continues to surround the genre name in quotations as if it's a word I just made up.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.05.2012 at 00:06
I feel like it's a useless gesture trying to point out the obvious fact this is a deathgrind album to someone who continues to surround the genre name in quotations as if it's a word I just made up.

Methinks you are being way too quick to jump to conclusions there matey. lol I am perfectly aware that deathgrind is a real genre, I never suggested otherwise. You completely misinterpreted the reason why I put the word deathgrind in quotes.

But yes, of course it's an "obvious" fact, and I'm a halfwit for not realising it.

Going down into semantic territory now deathgrind means most grind with some death in it. grinddeath however is primarily death with some grind in it. The right hand head rle applies here where the part furthest to the right determines the primary genre.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.05.2012 at 13:18
grinddeath

Except nobody calls it "grinddeath".

Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.05.2012 at 13:24

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.05.2012 at 13:18
grinddeath

Except nobody calls it "grinddeath".

Mmmm people who are into semnantic do, just like there''s deathdoom and doomdeath (which also a lot of people make a difference between the two)

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.05.2012 at 13:25


Mmmm people who are into semnantic do, just like there''s deathdoom and doomdeath (which also a lot of people make a difference between the two)

No, it really is a totally irrelevant and unnecessary categorisation. The larger majority still don't even distinguish between doom/death and death/doom, and while I agree that distinction is useful that's only because death metal and doom and very different. Separately siphoning off bands that slightly favour either death or grind is an excercise ir personal wankery and pointlessness

BTW, I just did a search on here for "grinddeath" and these posts were the only ones that appeared, and nothing on google brings up any conversations of distinction which shows hoe no one else cares about separating the two.

You're making it up as you go along Marcel; like MoD territory like he did on the Monolith review

Written by [user id=4365] on 26.05.2012 at 13:40
No, it really is a totally irrelevant and unnecessary categorisation. The larger majority still don't even distinguish between doom/death and death/doom, and while I agree that distinction is useful that's only because death metal and doom and very different. Separately siphoning off bands that slightly favour either death or grind is an excercise ir personal wankery and pointlessness

I couldn't have put it any better myself. xD

Written by Angelic Storm on 26.05.2012 at 14:31

Written by [user id=4365] on 26.05.2012 at 13:40
No, it really is a totally irrelevant and unnecessary categorisation. The larger majority still don't even distinguish between doom/death and death/doom, and while I agree that distinction is useful that's only because death metal and doom and very different. Separately siphoning off bands that slightly favour either death or grind is an excercise ir personal wankery and pointlessness

I couldn't have put it any better myself. xD

That applies to grinddeath though, certainly not Deathgrind which is what this guys are playing here.

Biggest surprise for me so far this year. Picked it up this weekend and i am absolutely blown away

Album of the year so far.

One of the most interesting grind/death albums I have ever listened to. I hope they continue in this direction. For me this will most likely be the best death/grind album of the year.

I'd like to know... Who does those awesome sounding vocals on songs like Lifestalker at 1:55?

Written by [user id=101272] on 14.08.2012 at 02:00

I'd like to know... Who does those awesome sounding vocals on songs like Lifestalker at 1:55?

As far as I know it sounds like Travis, at least I think I'm 99% sure it's him.

Listened to a couple of tracks off the full album stream on YouTube....pretty impressed. Have to get this one sometime. Love those high screams to pitch

Written by LeKiwi on 22.07.2013 at 02:37

Listened to a couple of tracks off the full album stream on YouTube....pretty impressed. Have to get this one sometime. Love those high screams to pitch

This album is fan-fuckin'-tastic!

First time listening...I think I dig it.

Listening to this again right now. I am really glad I have this in my collection. Pretty decent stuff.

Hhhhhhooooooook, see how far they've come!

A low 8 and a huge improvement. "Your Disposal" my fav one. Catchy!

Great stuff, indeed. ?The Carbon Stampede", ?A Living, Breathing Peace Of Defecating Meat" and ?Kingdom Of Tyrants" are awesome but ?Your Disposal" the brightest highlight of this album. Really loving the high pitched but melodic voice Travis uses in some of the refrains...

Absolutely Bloody Brutal stuff!

The whole band is at their best on this album (especially Travis Ryan!). 'A Living, Breathing Piece Of Defecating Meat' is also contender for song title of the century

Be VEGAN,respect the non-human animals,listen to CATTLE DECAPITATION

Written by SmolATAR on 13.11.2024 at 09:30

Be VEGAN,respect the non-human animals,listen to CATTLE DECAPITATION

Great way to remind everyone and certainly to me that I need to spin this monster soon. I'd still go on the record to say this is the best Cattle Decapitation record to this day.