I have played in a mapex q, and the aquiles priester mapex, and i think that mapex is really cool... it have great sound and good respone to the hits.... i like it very much... for the ones who don't know aquiles priester is angra's drummer and he has an special mapex kit that consist in double bass drum, one floor tom, two flying toms and the snare... it's a pretty cool set.....

Well, I don't play any instrument. However, I know many people on local bands, and they all agree Pearl is the best drum. A lot of power metal bands use Pearl, also Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, and Joey Jordison from Slipknot. And the Pearl drums look really nice.

Written by +{Jonas}+ on 03.02.2007 at 03:34

Well, I don't play any instrument. However, I know many people on local bands, and they all agree Pearl is the best drum. A lot of power metal bands use Pearl, also Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, and Joey Jordison from Slipknot. And the Pearl drums look really nice.

Mike Portnoy uses Pearl? Since when lol he's used Tama for years...
Your local bands are obviously going to be biased... they own expensive Pearl kits (I assume) so of course they're not going to want to think there are better brands or brands of equal quality..
As for Joey Jordison, he has yet to impress me, I have a couple drum solos by him but he just doesnt strike me as being as wonderful as he is cracked up to be....
Feel free to recommend a song or video clip to prove me wrong though, I'm only going by the songs/solos I've heard, which isnt much as I dont listen to them lol.

Written by Savage Messiah on 28.12.2006 at 01:34

Written by Syk on 27.12.2006 at 14:15

Is it easy to tell if a drummer is using triggers during a gig?

Probably, coz if they were using them on the bass drum, then their legs wouldn't be moving as fast as they would if they were doing all the beats themselves. I guess if you watched a drummer carefully you could tell...

I don't see how triggers could make you play faster. Say you put in a certain amount of effort in playing a 200 bpm beat on an untriggered drum set, then you put in the same effort on a triggered drum set, do you think you'll end up playing a 300 bpm beat? No, it will still be 200 bpm but with just more clarity wich would give you the IMPRESSION that you're playing faster.

Triggers are really cool in studio! You can trigger your bass drum and add a conventional mic to it as well. Then when you get to a fast double bass part of a song you let the triggers do most of the recording (more clarity on individual notes) and when the song slows down you switch to the mic so you get the bassier/non-click sound of a real bass drum. The same goes for the snare. With some beats you automatically hit the snare softer and others you really pound on it. If you have triggered your snare you would have a constant volume, but then it would sound monotonous, that's where the mic comes in and gives it a real sound. This would only be possible in a big studio though, as you would need quite a lot of channels for recording on a kit with 5 triggers and 8-9 mics! So you see, triggers are your friend !

P.S. if Joey from Slipknot doesn't impress you it's ok, i know of lots of people that think he's just ok. But on the Roadrunner United record he blasts with the best of them on "Anihilation by the hands of God". You should listen to that track, maybe your opinion of him will change.

I recently bought a Tama kit and let me tell you, it's one of the best kits that I have ever played on. Pearl is way too expensive for my tastes personally...

I totally agree that Tama kicks ass but i thought that they were just as expensive as Pearl! What kit did you get specifically? How many toms? What pedal? What cymbals?

Written by Savage Messiah on 07.02.2007 at 04:00

Written by +{Jonas}+ on 03.02.2007 at 03:34

Well, I don't play any instrument. However, I know many people on local bands, and they all agree Pearl is the best drum. A lot of power metal bands use Pearl, also Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, and Joey Jordison from Slipknot. And the Pearl drums look really nice.

Mike Portnoy uses Pearl? Since when lol he's used Tama for years...
Your local bands are obviously going to be biased... they own expensive Pearl kits (I assume) so of course they're not going to want to think there are better brands or brands of equal quality..
As for Joey Jordison, he has yet to impress me, I have a couple drum solos by him but he just doesnt strike me as being as wonderful as he is cracked up to be....
Feel free to recommend a song or video clip to prove me wrong though, I'm only going by the songs/solos I've heard, which isnt much as I dont listen to them lol.

Well, as far as I know, Pearl, Premier, Tama and Yamaha (Don't know the real order) are the best drum brands. But as I said, I) don't play any instrument, so I don't really know for my own experience.

As for Joey, the solo in the Disasterpieces DVD is quite impressive, IMO.

Yes, that is a good solo! I think that he is probably the most talented musician in Slipknot. It's actually a waste of an excellent drummer if you ask me! He should join a serious band! Just like Travis Barker from Blink 182, man that guy would kick ass in a really fast thrash band!

Written by Remus on 14.02.2007 at 20:31

Yes, that is a good solo! I think that he is probably the most talented musician in Slipknot. It's actually a waste of an excellent drummer if you ask me! He should join a serious band! Just like Travis Barker from Blink 182, man that guy would kick ass in a really fast thrash band!

I highly agree on both cases. They're both very talented drummers, but Travis is in the wrong band (I like Slipknot).

Another cool solo: "Batalla de los tambores", performed by Sully Erna and Shannon Larkin from Godsmack. It's on their DVD "Changes". Really good stuff. BTW they use Yamaha drums.

I really don't see such great talent in Blink 182's drummer. One doesn't need to be a very good drummer to be in a successful thrash band. But ofcourse one can judge a drummer's skill by seein him/her playing in a band.

Written by [user id=3005] on 17.02.2007 at 02:07

I really so no great talent in Blink 182's drummer. One doesn't need to be a very good drummer to be in a successful thrash band. But ofcourse one can judge a drummer's skill by seein him/her playing in a band.

I've never seen him play live... what's supposed to be so great about him?

Written by Savage Messiah on 18.02.2007 at 21:13

Written by [user id=3005] on 17.02.2007 at 02:07

I really so no great talent in Blink 182's drummer. One doesn't need to be a very good drummer to be in a successful thrash band. But ofcourse one can judge a drummer's skill by seein him/her playing in a band.

I've never seen him play live... what's supposed to be so great about him?

Everyone i know consider him as a great drummer though i found nothing interesting or good about him.If we say he is a good drummer and then we can't find any word to describe nicko mcbrain,dave lombardo,paul bostaph etc.And if we say these are metal drummers while travis-i guess that was his name-is a punk/rock drummer,i know better ones in that field for example dave grohl-though i don't like nirvana i have to accept his great talent-.Or let's take dave weckl,the greatest melodic drummer-i am gonna try to find a new word instead of drummer as it refers to travis- i have ever seen and probably will see........
And my choice is tama cuz it's a dream...............

Written by Savage Messiah on 18.02.2007 at 21:13

I've never seen him play live... what's supposed to be so great about him?

I can't remember on which songs, but he does some pretty innovative little beats and timing signiatures plus he's really fast! There's a solo of his floating around on Shareza if you wanna check it out...

P.S

I have to ask, can you play Savage Messiah on the drums?

Written by Remus on 19.02.2007 at 01:12

Written by Savage Messiah on 18.02.2007 at 21:13

I've never seen him play live... what's supposed to be so great about him?

I can't remember on which songs, but he does some pretty innovative little beats and timing signiatures plus he's really fast! There's a solo of his floating around on Shareza if you wanna check it out...

P.S

I have to ask, can you play Savage Messiah on the drums?

Hahahaha well I've never been asked THAT before I haven't actually learned the song.. but good idea, there's nothing on the track that I can't do... umm.. if you want a basic idea of what I can do... listen to "Attitude" by Sepultura, I've been playing that recently, its quite fun to play.
What kind of stuff do you play?

Written by [user id=3005] on 17.02.2007 at 02:07

I really don't see such great talent in Blink 182's drummer. One doesn't need to be a very good drummer to be in a successful thrash band. But ofcourse one can judge a drummer's skill by seein him/her playing in a band.

I think Travis Barker is seriously underrated, mainly because people see "punk" and automatically think "shite". He plays fast, extremely accurate and innovative parts and is very technically adept. He certainly knows what he's doing when it comes to the rudiments and how to apply them. He's also inspired a lot of drummers to pick up the sticks, and that's never a bad thing.

Written by Christos on 20.02.2007 at 17:45

Written by [user id=3005] on 17.02.2007 at 02:07

I really don't see such great talent in Blink 182's drummer. One doesn't need to be a very good drummer to be in a successful thrash band. But ofcourse one can judge a drummer's skill by seein him/her playing in a band.

I think Travis Barker is seriously underrated, mainly because people see "punk" and automatically think "shite". He plays fast, extremely accurate and innovative parts and is very technically adept. He certainly knows what he's doing when it comes to the rudiments and how to apply them. He's also inspired a lot of drummers to pick up the sticks, and that's never a bad thing.

I have never noticed that in their songs. I'll listen more carefully next time.

Written by [user id=3005] on 20.02.2007 at 18:30

Written by Christos on 20.02.2007 at 17:45

Written by [user id=3005] on 17.02.2007 at 02:07

I really don't see such great talent in Blink 182's drummer. One doesn't need to be a very good drummer to be in a successful thrash band. But ofcourse one can judge a drummer's skill by seein him/her playing in a band.

I think Travis Barker is seriously underrated, mainly because people see "punk" and automatically think "shite". He plays fast, extremely accurate and innovative parts and is very technically adept. He certainly knows what he's doing when it comes to the rudiments and how to apply them. He's also inspired a lot of drummers to pick up the sticks, and that's never a bad thing.

I have never noticed that in their songs. I'll listen more carefully next time.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a huge fan of the genre, but I do think it's important to give credit where credit is due! I'll try and find some specific examples of his drumming in the near future...

Written by Savage Messiah on 19.02.2007 at 11:49

What kind of stuff do you play?

Weell, from Arch Enemy i know how to play 'We Will Rise", i think it's one of their easier songs on drums, not too many fills you know? I can also play "Pull harder on the strings of your martyr" from Trivium. I don't like metalcore but the drums in this song keep me fit. These two are probably the most difficult i can play. I'm learning "Battery" from Metallica right now, it's actually harder to play than it sounds.

So besides Sepultura what songs do you play?

@ Christos: Yeah, i don't like punk either, not even when all my friends liked it 4-5 years ago, so i was ahead of my time ! But yeah, i was listening to some Blink 182 a while ago just out of curiosity and he really amazed me. He plays so many cool things that i didn't notice a while back when punk was in around here.

Personally I've liked Pearl so far the most, but Yamaha and Tama are good too.. I'm suppose to buy a new set on summer, it'll probably be one of these three.

Does anyone here own Axis A series double pedals?
Or even know anything about them?

Written by Savage Messiah on 02.04.2007 at 00:45

Does anyone here own Axis A series double pedals?
Or even know anything about them?

Yeah. They're direct drive, expensive but rumoured to be pretty good. Many people complain that the beaters are too light, but you can obviously just put in heavier ones. Apparently they have quite a unique feel as well - after I wear my current pedals out I'm keen to have a play on an Axis.

If you're after recommendations for a double pedal, your best bet is to go to a shop and try some out. DW5000 and 9000 series are great, as are Tama Iron Cobras (tho the footboard is a bit short for me). Sonor Giant Step and Pearl Eliminators are good, too. If you're after a direct drive pedal, check out the Yamaha Flying Dragon.

Written by Christos on 02.04.2007 at 17:49

Written by Savage Messiah on 02.04.2007 at 00:45

Does anyone here own Axis A series double pedals?
Or even know anything about them?

Yeah. They're direct drive, expensive but rumoured to be pretty good. Many people complain that the beaters are too light, but you can obviously just put in heavier ones. Apparently they have quite a unique feel as well - after I wear my current pedals out I'm keen to have a play on an Axis.

If you're after recommendations for a double pedal, your best bet is to go to a shop and try some out. DW5000 and 9000 series are great, as are Tama Iron Cobras (tho the footboard is a bit short for me). Sonor Giant Step and Pearl Eliminators are good, too. If you're after a direct drive pedal, check out the Yamaha Flying Dragon.

Yeah I've tried all the other pedals you listed, and I currently own a pair of Iron Cobras, but I'm curious about the Axis ones... their "long board" design interests me a lot, and I've also heard they're great pedals..

I've seen what the actual A series pedals look like.. but are you able to explain what "direct drive" means? or does it just mean there's no chain?

Written by Savage Messiah on 03.04.2007 at 03:17

Written by Christos on 02.04.2007 at 17:49

Written by Savage Messiah on 02.04.2007 at 00:45

Does anyone here own Axis A series double pedals?
Or even know anything about them?

Yeah. They're direct drive, expensive but rumoured to be pretty good. Many people complain that the beaters are too light, but you can obviously just put in heavier ones. Apparently they have quite a unique feel as well - after I wear my current pedals out I'm keen to have a play on an Axis.

If you're after recommendations for a double pedal, your best bet is to go to a shop and try some out. DW5000 and 9000 series are great, as are Tama Iron Cobras (tho the footboard is a bit short for me). Sonor Giant Step and Pearl Eliminators are good, too. If you're after a direct drive pedal, check out the Yamaha Flying Dragon.

Yeah I've tried all the other pedals you listed, and I currently own a pair of Iron Cobras, but I'm curious about the Axis ones... their "long board" design interests me a lot, and I've also heard they're great pedals..

I've seen what the actual A series pedals look like.. but are you able to explain what "direct drive" means? or does it just mean there's no chain?

As far as I know, there are two types - the Axis A and the Axis X series. Both can be fitted with the longboard option, which appears to simply be a longer footboard - great for people with huge feet (like me). The difference between the A and the X series is adjustability - the A series are more configurable than the X. You can check this stuff out on their site - http://www.axispercussion.com/pedals.html

As you've suggested, direct drive just means that the linkage between the footboard and the beater is fixed (usually made of metal) and so there is no chain. As the name implies, direct drive has a much more immediate feel, as some chain or strap driven pedals suffer from "flex" or delay of some sort.

Written by Christos on 03.04.2007 at 16:44

Written by Savage Messiah on 03.04.2007 at 03:17

Written by Christos on 02.04.2007 at 17:49

Written by Savage Messiah on 02.04.2007 at 00:45

Does anyone here own Axis A series double pedals?
Or even know anything about them?

Yeah. They're direct drive, expensive but rumoured to be pretty good. Many people complain that the beaters are too light, but you can obviously just put in heavier ones. Apparently they have quite a unique feel as well - after I wear my current pedals out I'm keen to have a play on an Axis.

If you're after recommendations for a double pedal, your best bet is to go to a shop and try some out. DW5000 and 9000 series are great, as are Tama Iron Cobras (tho the footboard is a bit short for me). Sonor Giant Step and Pearl Eliminators are good, too. If you're after a direct drive pedal, check out the Yamaha Flying Dragon.

Yeah I've tried all the other pedals you listed, and I currently own a pair of Iron Cobras, but I'm curious about the Axis ones... their "long board" design interests me a lot, and I've also heard they're great pedals..

I've seen what the actual A series pedals look like.. but are you able to explain what "direct drive" means? or does it just mean there's no chain?

As far as I know, there are two types - the Axis A and the Axis X series. Both can be fitted with the longboard option, which appears to simply be a longer footboard - great for people with huge feet (like me). The difference between the A and the X series is adjustability - the A series are more configurable than the X. You can check this stuff out on their site - http://www.axispercussion.com/pedals.html

As you've suggested, direct drive just means that the linkage between the footboard and the beater is fixed (usually made of metal) and so there is no chain. As the name implies, direct drive has a much more immediate feel, as some chain or strap driven pedals suffer from "flex" or delay of some sort.

Thanks for your reply
Now all I gotta do is save up for some haha

I'd definitely try them out first - some people have said that they really don't like the feel of the Axis pedals.

Written by Christos on 08.04.2007 at 16:45

I'd definitely try them out first - some people have said that they really don't like the feel of the Axis pedals.

Okay so I tried them out, I wasn't totally amazed by them, though they felt better than my Iron Cobras so I started saving up for them. There is this site in New Zealand called "Trademe" it's like a version of eBay -
Anyway, I was looking at drum stuff on there and I came across these pedals, they're called Trick Pro1 - V2. They look similar to Axis pedals, same direct drive drive design and extended footboard. They were for sale on that site, brand new and $500 less than what they go for in the shops over here. I remeber AGES ago seeing some guy do a review on them on youtube, and seeing how damn perfect they are. So I grabbed them, using my Axis money to pay for them coz heaps of other guys had their eyes on them and that was the last pair in NZ.
Honestly.. there is no better pedal.
These are the best drum pedals you could possibly buy. No fucking shit. (I posted on the other drum site that I met George Kollias..) I emailed him the other say to say I had these new pedals, he replied saying that he had tried them before and that they are way better quality than Axis.
I strongly recommend that anyone looking for new pedals go try these out now. They are so damn ahead of every other pedal.

http://www.trickdrums.com/

Sweet. I've heard good stuff about the Trick stuff, and I am definitely gonna give the Trick and Axis pedals a go within the forseeable future. Any pics of yours?

Written by Christos on 23.06.2007 at 18:33

Sweet. I've heard good stuff about the Trick stuff, and I am definitely gonna give the Trick and Axis pedals a go within the forseeable future. Any pics of yours?

Nope not yet, I'm gonna find a camera and take a picture of my kit and put it on the Pic thread, so I'll get back to you on that one

mike portnoy does NOT use pearl, NEVER HAS. he uses tama drums (with the exception of one tour where he used mapex). and LP. I think tama and mapex have the best sound. just my opinion, short and quick.