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Cradle of Filth vs Moonspell



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Posted by X-FrEaK, 23.05.2006 - 00:08
ahahahahah i always wanted to start a poll like this one yeah...i know that the two bands dont have that much in common but nowadays both belong to some sort of gothic metal, each band in one way, one more gothic/doom(Moonspell) and one more extreme gothic metal...for some...going mallcore, and they also tour together time to time

i guess this topic will end with Moonspell winning due to the "lets hate cradle of filth cause its cool"

well...anyway ill vote for Moonspell...i wouldnt betray my own country...with albuns like..Wolfheart, Irreligious, Darkness and Hope, Antidote, Memorial...i guess Moonspell have some of the best guitar solos in the metal scene!not to mention the best keyboard solo on the song "..Of Dream and Drama" from Wolfheart...and..:Fernando Ribeiro's voice?just....PERFECT!though he has some problems with his pronounce

but i DO NOT hate Cradle of Filth...nop...i LOVE Cradle of Filth they were the ones who started me in the more extreme areas of metal, and please respect opinions...i love Dani's voice!..they have fucking amazing albuns too...Total Fucking Darkness(demo), Dusk and Her Embrace, Vempire, Midian, Bitter Suite s to Succubi, Nymphetamine, among others
i know that Dani's voice can be real annoying for some though!


thats all


Poll

Which is your favorite?

Moonspell
132
Cradle of Filth
84

Total votes: 217
15.05.2008 - 23:26
Necrogeddon
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ergh any band would win over cradle of filth, they are ridiculous and their music nowadays is shit and repetative,
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27.10.2008 - 19:25
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
I shall ignore anti-COFists for today, cause I'm fed up with that "Cradle's total shit even Celine Dion sounds better" attitude that's been running about in metal scene for years now. Though I'd like to bring attention to the fact that Cradle's most vicious detractors, whose principal argument is "shit" (...) are almost all under 20 years old...
Anyway, I voted for Cradle even though I love Moonspell. First, I saw them both live and Moonspell was boring while Cradle was like ten times better live than on record. Also, I like at least half the songs on each COF album, but Moonspell hardly make one good song out of ten... Finisterra, Night Eternal and Alma Mater are great, but I don't have any interest in most of their work. For COF, all their albums before Damnation are incredible and they managed to play good music after, with songs like Nymphetamine Overdose, Coffin Fodder, The Promise of Fever, Babalon AD, Dirge Inferno, Under Huntress Moon, Devil to the Metal, etc, and Godspeed seems to be their best work since Midian.
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10.12.2008 - 00:56
Land Of Doom
Moonspell And Cradle Of Filth from my fav metal bands

I am sure Moonspell is bettar than Cradle Of Filth Espicially The Vocals of Moonspell (Fernando Ribeiro) has a very good sound Than (Dani Filth) the Cradle of filth Vocals
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10.12.2008 - 08:49
Eeric
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For me Moonspell haven't done even one single good song, bu Filth has albums full of those
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10.12.2008 - 09:18
Hamird
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Written by [user id=35853] on 10.12.2008 at 08:49

For me Moonspell haven't done even one single good song, bu Filth has albums full of those

Well, I think Moonspell have done many great songs. To improve my word just try Wolfheart, Irreligious, Memorial, Night Eternal and Under Satanae..
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10.12.2008 - 10:20
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Mastercommander
I'd say Moonspell because most of the songs I've heard from them are pretty decent. Plus, I think most of the material CoF has release (even the old stuff which I've heard) is garbage
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10.12.2008 - 12:57
Koen Smits
Guess I'm a filthy crackwhore choosing CoF.
I've chosen them because of their early work, but I'm not a fan though.
Moonspell...I like 'em one day, I dislike 'em another day. Saw Moonspell live and that was pretty good.
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11.12.2008 - 08:47
Metalbound7
Moonspell for me, the singer, the lyrics and the music are awesome, it inspire my creativity and i really enjoy listen to them, and some of their videos have really good effects like Scorpion Flower. About Cradle of Filth i just like 3 or 4 songs, IMO their look is a little ridiculous like a combination of Motley Crue, Marylin Manson and Immortal. And their lyrics are not that good, and i can't stand Dani's voice in most of their songs. But that's just my opinion.
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11.12.2008 - 08:56
Metalbound7
Written by [user id=35853] on 10.12.2008 at 08:49

For me Moonspell haven't done even one single good song, bu Filth has albums full of those

At Tragic Heights, that's more than just a good song IMO.
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12.12.2008 - 11:12
Eeric
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Written by Hamird on 10.12.2008 at 09:18

Written by [user id=35853] on 10.12.2008 at 08:49

For me Moonspell haven't done even one single good song, bu Filth has albums full of those

Well, I think Moonspell have done many great songs. To improve my word just try Wolfheart, Irreligious, Memorial, Night Eternal and Under Satanae..

I ain't saying it sucks or something, but I just don't like their music
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28.12.2008 - 01:03
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Written by [user id=35853] on 10.12.2008 at 08:49

For me Moonspell haven't done even one single good song, bu Filth has albums full of those

i sure do respect your opinion, but i do believe you haven't heard all moonspell songs. Maybe it's just a question of music taste, but they've done some pretty amazing songs in the latest albums.

and i'm not just saying this cuz i'm portuguese, in fact i'have to admit some songs from 'Sin Pecado' / 'Butterfly Effect' / 'Darkness And Hope' just makes me wanna shut down media player LOL

well, it would be pretty annoying if everyone enjoyed every band and every kind of music
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29.12.2008 - 18:29
Slayer666
Written by MétalNoir on 27.10.2008 at 19:25

I shall ignore anti-COFists for today, cause I'm fed up with that "Cradle's total shit even Celine Dion sounds better" attitude that's been running about in metal scene for years now. Though I'd like to bring attention to the fact that Cradle's most vicious detractors, whose principal argument is "shit" (...) are almost all under 20 years old...
Anyway, I voted for Cradle even though I love Moonspell. First, I saw them both live and Moonspell was boring while Cradle was like ten times better live than on record. Also, I like at least half the songs on each COF album, but Moonspell hardly make one good song out of ten... Finisterra, Night Eternal and Alma Mater are great, but I don't have any interest in most of their work. For COF, all their albums before Damnation are incredible and they managed to play good music after, with songs like Nymphetamine Overdose, Coffin Fodder, The Promise of Fever, Babalon AD, Dirge Inferno, Under Huntress Moon, Devil to the Metal, etc, and Godspeed seems to be their best work since Midian.

Heh,love ya dude!CoF is the best,fuck the rest.Now,seriously,I find Moonspell....boring.There,I said it.They are too slow,too much Doom.Don't get me wrong,I love Doom,but mixing Doom and Gothic isn't good at all.Most of Moonspell's songs sound the same to me.I have to congratulate them on Alma Mater,though,that's really a great song.But the rest.....Oh,yeah,I preffer CoF's (Dani's) vocal style over Moonspells.It sounds much more extreme.
And I'm more of a fan of CoF's earliest works,Principale,Dusk,Cruelty etc.Now,THOSE where good albums.Midian and Thornography suck.Damnation,Nymphetamine and Godspeed are damn great too.
And to all of you CoF haters,let's just say that there is a statistic fact that CoF is the most sucessfull Metal band since Iron Maiden.So
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29.12.2008 - 18:47
Slayer666
Written by Hamird on 09.06.2007 at 16:40

this is a big problem ... little dani and his band never can reach to a band like moonspell ...
i can't undrestand ... if even cradle of filth is good, but still it can't be compaired with moonspell.

but if you want to compair the frontmen of these two bands look at fernando ribeiro and dani filth's career.
moonspell has changed many genres, like doom, gothic, folk (earlier works), black .... ribeiro he fixed in all those genre, his voice is great.
take a look at 1998. in daemonarch he sang as dirty as it is possible. and create a legendry album (hermeticum). and at the same year moonspell played "unplugged in lisbon" ... he had a clean and beautiful voice there ... he knows when he should change his voice.
but really what can you see in little dani? just he is good coz he chose dani? no my friends. he is the man who act in the FUNNY movie called cradle of fear. and so on.

or you can compair guitarist ... one richardo amorim, with two guys in cradleof....
amorim is incridible. i really worship his playing. i just name some solos: WOLFSHADE, ALMA MATER (riff), HERR SPIEGELMANN , and EVERYTHING INVADED

if you want more, compair two keyboards ... pedro pixao is a guy that has a perfect power to use the keys.
for example in ATAEGINA, TREBRARUNA, NOCTURNA, LUNAR STILL ...
at last. to make sure that moonspell beat cof you can take this one. both bands have covered ozzy ousborne's MR.CROWLY ... just listen to them and judge which one is better?

Hmm,this really shows how objective you are.Of course that Moonspell's guitarwork sounds better when the music is MUCH slower,so you can hear it better.Plus,those guitarists in Extreme metal bands are waaay more worthy of respect than those who play softer metal.Why?Well, even I can eventually learn to do the guitars on,say,Alma Mater because it's slow.But,even if I would live for like a 1000 years,and spent every moment of my life learning,there is NO WAY IN HELL that I could ever learn to play some CoF's songs.Or,say,Dark Funeral's.Not to mention Dragon Force's.
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29.12.2008 - 19:06
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
DragonForce is not so hard to play when you play the CD over the live performance... And I don't agree with you when you say CoF has better guitarists, man. Paul never was a lead guitarist and solos are sparce throughout Cradle's releases, while Moonspell has some of the most brilliant guit solos. I think on the whole CoF sounds better, but Moonspell has incredible musicianship, too, you can't deny it. But I never understood why this thread was created anyway... Moonspell and CoF are as similar as Amon Amarth and Children of Bodom... They do have some things in common, but apart from the gothic atmosphere, they are not the same at all. They should not be opposed in a poll.
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29.12.2008 - 19:35
MadGatsu
Written by Slayer666 on 29.12.2008 at 18:29

Written by MétalNoir on 27.10.2008 at 19:25

I shall ignore anti-COFists for today, cause I'm fed up with that "Cradle's total shit even Celine Dion sounds better" attitude that's been running about in metal scene for years now. Though I'd like to bring attention to the fact that Cradle's most vicious detractors, whose principal argument is "shit" (...) are almost all under 20 years old...
Anyway, I voted for Cradle even though I love Moonspell. First, I saw them both live and Moonspell was boring while Cradle was like ten times better live than on record. Also, I like at least half the songs on each COF album, but Moonspell hardly make one good song out of ten... Finisterra, Night Eternal and Alma Mater are great, but I don't have any interest in most of their work. For COF, all their albums before Damnation are incredible and they managed to play good music after, with songs like Nymphetamine Overdose, Coffin Fodder, The Promise of Fever, Babalon AD, Dirge Inferno, Under Huntress Moon, Devil to the Metal, etc, and Godspeed seems to be their best work since Midian.

Heh,love ya dude!CoF is the best,fuck the rest.Now,seriously,I find Moonspell....boring.There,I said it.They are too slow,too much Doom.Don't get me wrong,I love Doom,but mixing Doom and Gothic isn't good at all.Most of Moonspell's songs sound the same to me.I have to congratulate them on Alma Mater,though,that's really a great song.But the rest.....Oh,yeah,I preffer CoF's (Dani's) vocal style over Moonspells.It sounds much more extreme.
And I'm more of a fan of CoF's earliest works,Principale,Dusk,Cruelty etc.Now,THOSE where good albums.Midian and Thornography suck.Damnation,Nymphetamine and Godspeed are damn great too.
And to all of you CoF haters,let's just say that there is a statistic fact that CoF is the most sucessfull Metal band since Iron Maiden.So

Im not a CoF hater. In fact, i like at least a dozen of their songs (specially their cover for Hallowd be Thy Name). But i have to say, that i love Moonspell better. True, the fact that im Portuguese and i can understand better their portuguese lyric parts makes it sound better, but i can also understand english very well. And at least, i can undestand something out of Moonspell. There aint a single song in CoF that i dont need to read lyrics because i have no fucking idea what Dani is saying.

Just in conclusion, its all a matter of taste. I like Black, gothic, and whatnot. I like both bands, i just voted the band that has more songs i like, and i dont insult the other band.

People that dont like the other band (whichever it is), are just plain idiots. What do you even win by insulting bands? Im not specially saying this to you, you didnt insult Moonspell, you just gave ur opinion by saying they are boring (even though i completely disagree).

World is full of f-idiots who have no manners and no values in life.
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29.12.2008 - 23:14
Slayer666
Right.Well,I agree that it isn't smart to pit CoF and Moonspell,they are totally different styles of music.
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29.12.2008 - 23:22
Hamird
Lieutenant
Written by Slayer666 on 29.12.2008 at 18:47

Written by Hamird on 09.06.2007 at 16:40

this is a big problem ... little dani and his band never can reach to a band like moonspell ...
i can't undrestand ... if even cradle of filth is good, but still it can't be compaired with moonspell.

but if you want to compair the frontmen of these two bands look at fernando ribeiro and dani filth's career.
moonspell has changed many genres, like doom, gothic, folk (earlier works), black .... ribeiro he fixed in all those genre, his voice is great.
take a look at 1998. in daemonarch he sang as dirty as it is possible. and create a legendry album (hermeticum). and at the same year moonspell played "unplugged in lisbon" ... he had a clean and beautiful voice there ... he knows when he should change his voice.
but really what can you see in little dani? just he is good coz he chose dani? no my friends. he is the man who act in the FUNNY movie called cradle of fear. and so on.

or you can compair guitarist ... one richardo amorim, with two guys in cradleof....
amorim is incridible. i really worship his playing. i just name some solos: WOLFSHADE, ALMA MATER (riff), HERR SPIEGELMANN , and EVERYTHING INVADED

if you want more, compair two keyboards ... pedro pixao is a guy that has a perfect power to use the keys.
for example in ATAEGINA, TREBRARUNA, NOCTURNA, LUNAR STILL ...
at last. to make sure that moonspell beat cof you can take this one. both bands have covered ozzy ousborne's MR.CROWLY ... just listen to them and judge which one is better?

Hmm,this really shows how objective you are.Of course that Moonspell's guitarwork sounds better when the music is MUCH slower,so you can hear it better.Plus,those guitarists in Extreme metal bands are waaay more worthy of respect than those who play softer metal.Why?Well, even I can eventually learn to do the guitars on,say,Alma Mater because it's slow.But,even if I would live for like a 1000 years,and spent every moment of my life learning,there is NO WAY IN HELL that I could ever learn to play some CoF's songs.Or,say,Dark Funeral's.Not to mention Dragon Force's.

Dude I even don't remember this post it's about more than a year I think.. Whatever..
OK, I still think that Amorim is much more better than anyone in Gothic Metal, and I think their two latest albums are not slow! At least they're faster than previous albums. Also he showed the talent in Black Metal, with Daemonarch, get it if you haven't listened to it already... He play as well as what he do it in slow songs..
And I'm not agree with that every who play Extreme Metal are more worthy than the others..
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30.12.2008 - 12:36
Slayer666
Nah,dude,that's not what I'm saying.I'm saying that it's way harder to play Extreme.I tried,trust me.
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02.01.2009 - 19:23
In Bone Factory
Moonspell is much better in any factors.
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02.01.2009 - 19:26
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Slayer666 on 30.12.2008 at 12:36

Nah,dude,that's not what I'm saying.I'm saying that it's way harder to play Extreme.I tried,trust me.

It is just as hard to play extreme as non-extreme. It just depends on the person doing it. So, what you're saying is just a load of bollocks.
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02.01.2009 - 21:46
MétalNoir
Fils du Lys
I don't personnally play guitar, but I don't think playing let's say CoF riffs is more difficult than solos from Heavy metal bands like Megadeth or Iron Maiden...
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02.01.2009 - 21:55
Moonspell, hands down. Shit, I know CoF was good up until Midian, but Moonspell has released some pretty amazing musical pieces. I still even enjoy Moonspell's newer stuff, but not as much as the old.
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02.01.2009 - 23:36
Slayer666
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 19:26

Written by Slayer666 on 30.12.2008 at 12:36

Nah,dude,that's not what I'm saying.I'm saying that it's way harder to play Extreme.I tried,trust me.

It is just as hard to play extreme as non-extreme. It just depends on the person doing it. So, what you're saying is just a load of bollocks.

I'm not even going to bother answering to this.I can't think of an answer to this that doesn't involve lot of swearing and insults.So,I'm just gonna let it be.
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03.01.2009 - 00:03
Written by Slayer666 on 02.01.2009 at 23:36

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 19:26

Written by Slayer666 on 30.12.2008 at 12:36

Nah,dude,that's not what I'm saying.I'm saying that it's way harder to play Extreme.I tried,trust me.

It is just as hard to play extreme as non-extreme. It just depends on the person doing it. So, what you're saying is just a load of bollocks.

I'm not even going to bother answering to this.I can't think of an answer to this that doesn't involve lot of swearing and insults.So,I'm just gonna let it be.

Cause he's right. One genre of music is not harder to play than another, only for the person playing.
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03.01.2009 - 11:39
Slayer666
Written by I, The Quatropus on 03.01.2009 at 00:03

Written by Slayer666 on 02.01.2009 at 23:36

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 19:26

Written by Slayer666 on 30.12.2008 at 12:36

Nah,dude,that's not what I'm saying.I'm saying that it's way harder to play Extreme.I tried,trust me.

It is just as hard to play extreme as non-extreme. It just depends on the person doing it. So, what you're saying is just a load of bollocks.

I'm not even going to bother answering to this.I can't think of an answer to this that doesn't involve lot of swearing and insults.So,I'm just gonna let it be.

Cause he's right. One genre of music is not harder to play than another, only for the person playing.

No,not because of that.Because I really don't want to argue with a man who's 26 years older than me.Got to have some respect,you know.
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28.04.2009 - 15:40
mara
I was on a concert where moonspell and cradle of filth were playing. I have to say that moonspell were much better, although I like cradle of filth they were really bad. Danni forget his lyrics from old songs again. I'm never going to cradle of filth's concert but I'm going to see moonspell again if they come here again.
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28.04.2009 - 15:48
Diabolos
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I also voted for Moonspell.
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28.04.2009 - 21:11
ForeverDarkWoods
Moonspell actually play decent metal. Therefore they win over CoF big time, since CoF just plain suck in this day and age and pretty much anyone could beat them nowadays.
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15.05.2009 - 06:26
Morphis
Comparing the 90's of these two bands, the decision is very hard but in the latest works...Moonspell wins.
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15.05.2009 - 09:06
Deadmeat
Necrobutcher
Hahahaha!!!! one poll without any meaning... any.. I mean, it's not even a comparison of 2 same-style bands...
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