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Posted by Hylia, 08.06.2006 - 01:26
I decided to make a thread on Abortion after watching a show on it.How it is so open to people these days and more people are beginning to do it.It doesn't really occur to people sometimes that they are killing a life,some people are just so desperate to be free they dont even think about it.I know some people who are 15 and had it done already.In that case,it is necessary,but in the end it is their fault in the first place.There are many people who dont agree with it and think it is wrong,and there are also those who dont have a problem with it and think it's for the good of it.There are times when it should be done,and it is better not to bring a child into the world with no parents,and there are times when an adult couple does it because they just dont want another child.I know the Catholic church is very against it and many protest against it,I just wanted to hear your opinion on whether it is right or wrong or just sometimes necessary.Is it wrong to kill someone who never experiened life or to bring them into the world with a family that could not support them or are not mature enough to.
15.06.2007 - 03:57
Vent
I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.
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20.06.2007 - 02:04
4look4rd
The Sasquatch
I support abortion, because its not fair for the mother to have her whole life ruined just because she made an arbitrary dessision while were young, also if the perents dont want the chield, its better to just abort it than have a baby growing up in a home where he/she is not welcome.

It should be the mother's decision, and no body else, because thats HER body, not the goverment or the boyfriend's, but hers.

And if abortion was ligalized, I am sure that the numbers of "self-abortion" would drastically decrease.
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20.06.2007 - 02:08
4look4rd
The Sasquatch
Also I know a 15 years old girl (who I used to baby sit a few years ago, when she was 10 or 11) had a baby last week! Imagine how this chield will affect her life, although her boyfriend (16 or 17year old) accpted the kid (she was lucky, because most men at his age wont do it,) still a pretty drastical change, now she at the age of 15 she will have a life of a 30 years old woman, do you think thats fair?
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24.06.2007 - 22:19
Lupas
Maximus
Written by 4look4rd on 20.06.2007 at 02:08

Also I know a 15 years old girl (who I used to baby sit a few years ago, when she was 10 or 11) had a baby last week! Imagine how this chield will affect her life, although her boyfriend (16 or 17year old) accpted the kid (she was lucky, because most men at his age wont do it,) still a pretty drastical change, now she at the age of 15 she will have a life of a 30 years old woman, do you think thats fair?

Most of the people don't think this . Being at that age a father or mum is not a joke. Things happens after there is no responsablility and this is the result. Most people do abortion to eliminate this mistake but the real mistake was themself than the baby .
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24.06.2007 - 23:18
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Vent on 15.06.2007 at 03:57

I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.

why you're so angry
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25.06.2007 - 20:46
Vent
Written by Bad English on 24.06.2007 at 23:18

Written by Vent on 15.06.2007 at 03:57

I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.

why you're so angry

How many people in this debate have actually had an abortion? Unless you've actually been pregnant, I dont think you can have an opinion on abortion. Its a VERY private subject, which should be left out of public debating.

(...just in case anyone is wondering.. i have never been pregnant...)
o.o
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25.06.2007 - 20:56
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Vent on 25.06.2007 at 20:46

Written by Bad English on 24.06.2007 at 23:18

Written by Vent on 15.06.2007 at 03:57

I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.

why you're so angry

How many people in this debate have actually had an abortion? Unless you've actually been pregnant, I dont think you can have an opinion on abortion. Its a VERY private subject, which should be left out of public debating.

(...just in case anyone is wondering.. i have never been pregnant...)
o.o

I totaly agree about it but sometimes its esyer when you talk about pain
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26.06.2007 - 04:13
Vent
Written by Bad English on 25.06.2007 at 20:56

Written by Vent on 25.06.2007 at 20:46

Written by Bad English on 24.06.2007 at 23:18

Written by Vent on 15.06.2007 at 03:57

I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.

why you're so angry

How many people in this debate have actually had an abortion? Unless you've actually been pregnant, I dont think you can have an opinion on abortion. Its a VERY private subject, which should be left out of public debating.

(...just in case anyone is wondering.. i have never been pregnant...)
o.o

I totaly agree about it but sometimes its esyer when you talk about pain

Im not sure what you mean,
How do you relate talking about pain to abortion being a private issue?
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26.06.2007 - 09:26
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
If you talk about pain whit close ppl then ist easyer and this tread are about discuss abortion like it shood be legal/eligal in country but not HOW IT HEPEN whit X person
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27.06.2007 - 20:55
Lupas
Maximus
Written by Vent on 25.06.2007 at 20:46

Written by Bad English on 24.06.2007 at 23:18

Written by Vent on 15.06.2007 at 03:57

I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.

why you're so angry

How many people in this debate have actually had an abortion? Unless you've actually been pregnant, I dont think you can have an opinion on abortion. Its a VERY private subject, which should be left out of public debating.

(...just in case anyone is wondering.. i have never been pregnant...)
o.o

I don't agree with you when you said that this topic shall be left aside. In this form of argument we can prove how harm is done to mum and child . ( Some would use another word to describe a child cause they think that it is not a child at that stage ). Let people know what is really Abortion , what are the consequences of this brutal act.
No this topic must be alive once again .
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28.06.2007 - 19:08
Warman
Erotic Stains
Written by Vent on 25.06.2007 at 20:46

Written by Bad English on 24.06.2007 at 23:18

Written by Vent on 15.06.2007 at 03:57

I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.

why you're so angry

How many people in this debate have actually had an abortion? Unless you've actually been pregnant, I dont think you can have an opinion on abortion. Its a VERY private subject, which should be left out of public debating.

(...just in case anyone is wondering.. i have never been pregnant...)
o.o

Well, I've never experienced war, I've never been raped, I've never been a victim of physical assault... does that mean I can't discuss it?
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30.06.2007 - 00:38
Lowelas OF FIRE
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Abortion, well prior to deciding whether it be right or wrong, you must first ask "Does this fetus have a soul?" if the answer is YES, then you SHOULD NOT abort the baby, but if it's 1 month old (in which case it has no soul) then I think it's okay to abort it.
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10.07.2007 - 04:07
SteelScream
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Written by Vent on 25.06.2007 at 20:46

Written by Bad English on 24.06.2007 at 23:18

Written by Vent on 15.06.2007 at 03:57

I dont think ithis is a debatable topic. Not any of your fucking business.

why you're so angry

How many people in this debate have actually had an abortion? Unless you've actually been pregnant, I dont think you can have an opinion on abortion. Its a VERY private subject, which should be left out of public debating.

(...just in case anyone is wondering.. i have never been pregnant...)
o.o

As a man, i can't have an abortion, but me and my ex-girlfriend decided to have one, not for the purpose of that the child could have been disabled - she was living in England while i was living in Estonia, we both have lives in these countries, so it was out of the question of having that child.

I support abortion, a woman has the right to decide the fate of her unborn offspring.Besides, it is an embryo, so it practically does not count.I may sound sexist, but hey, some things have to be done.
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11.07.2007 - 01:49
Cassandra
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pro-lifers just.... oh man, i try to keep my anger to a minimum but, eh everyone is allowed to have their own views.... not to say abortion should be used as a form of birth control, because the people who have multiple abortions like its nothing are completely stupid as well... if one is reponsible enough to be sexually active, they should be on the pill, use condoms... etc,... all those good things... to make SURE that a child will not be concieved. if you dont want one, make sure you dont have one, its not that hard.

and if an accident does happen, not everyone can keep a child, because of finantial situations, or age, or living situation, there are tons of factors. and i really believe that the best environment for a child to be brought into is one of love, and one with a reasonably secure finantial situation. so my view on this, is pretty much be responsible, and if an accident happens and you cannot keep the child, the right to chose should always be an option.

and what about the women who become pregnant from rapes? are they really expected to carry a child, and the emotional torture of bearing a child of the man who violated them? or how about those poor girls who are raped or molested by sick uncles and shit like that? would they be expected to bear the child? the right to chose must remain.

and did you know that some states are now requiring by law that the dr give the woman the chance to hear the heartbeat or see pictures of the embryo before going through with the abortion? sounds like there are too many fanatical christians in the US government trying to trigger guilt trips ..... and dont even get me started about the pro-LIFE morons who KILL abortion drs... talk about idiocy.
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11.07.2007 - 09:52
Oracle
Orcinus
i dont like the idea of abortion but sometimes it has to happen. i mean in some situations you have to have one like for example if your parents make you or you dont have the money to support the child or if you dont want to keep the child. abortion can be very emotional for the woman too.
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11.07.2007 - 10:29
Black Winter
here's a simple test about abortion:
if a mother of 8 children,3 of them are deaf,2 are blind,and one mentally retarded,this woman is pregnant,asks if she should have her baby aborted, what would you say to her ?

if you tell her to abort, then you woud've killed Beethoven.
my point is that you never know what your future child would be like,but generally,for me, i am on the law side,once the embrio becomes a real baby, then a woman can not decide to abort him because it would be murder.
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11.07.2007 - 10:39
Oracle
Orcinus
@Black Winter - I would tell her not to get one. i get your point because if she got rid of it then how does she know what this child is like and she would possibly be getting rid of a child that could be perfect, i mean without disablilaties and that could be her dream child. i mean she would still love the other 8 children, im not saying she wont love them because they are retarded or blind or whatever.
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11.07.2007 - 11:04
Black Winter
I know that disabilities are never a reason for less love by the parents, you're right, but some parents don't want to have a disabled child because they don't want to make him live in pain, i mean it's your child suffering, but my point is that you never know for sure,based on statistics and probabilities,about your future baby,you never know.
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11.07.2007 - 11:12
Oracle
Orcinus
Its sad when parents have to live with children with disabilities, your right about parents not wanting a disabled child. sometimes they can be hard to live with or some parents cant cope because it can become stressful for them.
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11.07.2007 - 20:26
Cassandra
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Written by Oracle on 11.07.2007 at 11:12

Its sad when parents have to live with children with disabilities, your right about parents not wanting a disabled child. sometimes they can be hard to live with or some parents cant cope because it can become stressful for them.

and some people could care less if their child was disabled or not, and they really create a loving environment for the child...(stress doubled included as well) i agree with you on that whole senario, because if parents are under double the amount of stress to care for a disabled child, how can they raise more correctly, healthy or not?
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11.07.2007 - 20:28
Cassandra
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haha whoops i misread.... i guess my point would be, how can the mother of these children take care of them all?
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11.07.2007 - 20:33
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Oracle on 11.07.2007 at 11:12

Its sad when parents have to live with children with disabilities, your right about parents not wanting a disabled child. sometimes they can be hard to live with or some parents cant cope because it can become stressful for them.

Its hard live in that cases of child point, no metter how good be his family who addopted it if parents left him, but still inside he be unhapy
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09.09.2007 - 23:22
SteelScream
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Written by Bad English on 11.07.2007 at 20:33

Written by Oracle on 11.07.2007 at 11:12

Its sad when parents have to live with children with disabilities, your right about parents not wanting a disabled child. sometimes they can be hard to live with or some parents cant cope because it can become stressful for them.

Its hard live in that cases of child point, no metter how good be his family who addopted it if parents left him, but still inside he be unhapy

And thus many say this: '' I would rather die than to be disabled ''. I can't say anything bad about that sentance (But ofcourse, it depends what disability you have).I wouldn't want to live as a permament impotent, neither would i want to live without sight or hearing. no, no bloody way
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18.09.2007 - 09:09
?Master?
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idk this is an eery subject ive never been pregnant so idk what it feels like to have the pressure of motherhood on u but if someone wants to have an abortion thats their problem really...
everyone bashes on abortion n shit but were all babykillers here lmao
guys kill a shitload of kids everytime they cum lmao
n everyone enjoys sex so everyones bad hahah
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18.09.2007 - 21:21
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=25484] on 18.09.2007 at 09:09


guys kill a shitload of kids everytime they cum lmao
n everyone enjoys sex so everyones bad hahah

Ghahaahah realy funy realy but I dont agree whit such thinks
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18.09.2007 - 21:29
?Master?
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Written by Bad English on 18.09.2007 at 21:21

Written by [user id=25484] on 18.09.2007 at 09:09


guys kill a shitload of kids everytime they cum lmao
n everyone enjoys sex so everyones bad hahah

Ghahaahah realy funy realy but I dont agree whit such thinks

hahh its a joke but u do kill babies when u cum hahha its the same shit like an abotion its not a baby yet when they kill it thats y u cant get one after like 4 months i think cus its a baby then
but what such thinks? everyone enjoying sex??
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18.09.2007 - 21:32
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=25484] on 18.09.2007 at 21:29

Written by Bad English on 18.09.2007 at 21:21

Written by [user id=25484] on 18.09.2007 at 09:09


guys kill a shitload of kids everytime they cum lmao
n everyone enjoys sex so everyones bad hahah

Ghahaahah realy funy realy but I dont agree whit such thinks

hahh its a joke but u do kill babies when u cum hahha its the same shit like an abotion its not a baby yet when they kill it thats y u cant get one after like 4 months i think cus its a baby then
but what such thinks? everyone enjoying sex??

I didnt say I dont enjoy sex but I mean about kiiling babies when cum, but no I dont agree because baby are baby MAN+WOMAN=SEX and you know
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19.09.2007 - 19:09
April.Ethereal87
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In some cases, Abortion is a valid choice. Think about it, if a woman gets raped, and subsequently becomes pregnant, is it wrong to not want to carry the child of a rrapeist? If you are too financially unstable to support a child, is it better to not even have the child, or put it in a orphanage, where it will more than likely bounce around from home to home until somebody adopts them?

On the other hand, I don't think it's right for somebody going around having abortions because they don't want the child. Chances are, if your old enough to have sex, your old enough to understand the risk of getting pregnant.

On Another hand, I think it's completely wrong for the US to have a possible law that would make abortion illegal. It's the woman's choice, seeing as how she has to carry the child for 9 months.
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12.10.2007 - 23:36
Drizzling Blur
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Written by [user id=25764] on 19.09.2007 at 19:09

In some cases, Abortion is a valid choice. Think about it, if a woman gets raped, and subsequently becomes pregnant, is it wrong to not want to carry the child of a rrapeist? If you are too financially unstable to support a child, is it better to not even have the child, or put it in a orphanage, where it will more than likely bounce around from home to home until somebody adopts them?

On the other hand, I don't think it's right for somebody going around having abortions because they don't want the child. Chances are, if your old enough to have sex, your old enough to understand the risk of getting pregnant.

On Another hand, I think it's completely wrong for the US to have a possible law that would make abortion illegal. It's the woman's choice, seeing as how she has to carry the child for 9 months.

Excellent reply to the thread, totally agree with every single point mentioned, yes, the mother should be given the right to decide if she has to go ahead with abortion, governments and courts definitely cannot decide if the circumstances are "valid" or "Genuine" etc etc, Im sure mothers who carry a new life in their wombs are sensible enough to decide for themselves if they need to raise the kid or decide not to, i think the government should definitely ask women to submit in writing about why any woman would want to have an abortion, apart from this, i really dont think this is something the government should interfere in.
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15.10.2007 - 12:48
Woutjinho
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ofcourse abortion should be legal. If I dont want to have a kid with thesame genes like me walking around on this world, I'll be very gratefull for abortion so the mother can remove it
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