Written by IronAngel on 20.12.2011 at 18:56

Even Sade is jazzier than this. It's not an awful song by any means, but how can a music journalist think it sounds like jazz?

Written by Ernis on 24.12.2011 at 21:33

Written by IronAngel on 20.12.2011 at 18:56

Even Sade is jazzier than this. It's not an awful song by any means, but how can a music journalist think it sounds like jazz?

Nightwish isn't exactly a jazz band either. I did hope to hear a jazzier song, I have to admit. Nevertheless, it's quite a good listen.

Written by IronAngel on 24.12.2011 at 21:42

But I really, really don't get any smoky jazz bar vibes from the atmosphere or even the technical traits.

Written by Ernis on 24.12.2011 at 21:59
I do. But I'm no jazz specialist either, therefore my judgement might be clouded. There are indeed elements in that song that hint towards jazz even though it's still more like a typical Nightwish song. I do get the cigar bar pictures in my head while listening to this song and imagine Anette in her backstage room, puffing half burnt cigarettes from the ashtray and sipping some booze in front of the mirror while the dudes hang around in the lounge, supposedly rehearsing but instead just being wasted. Scantily dressed courtesans roaming around and in the end a black and white 40-ies gangster film scene where figures in hats and cloaks emerge from a foggy alley.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.12.2011 at 22:10

You got all that from this? :/

Written by Ernis on 24.12.2011 at 22:13

Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.12.2011 at 22:10

You got all that from this? :/

I did.

You probably didn't but I didn't expect you to get a similar picture anyway.

Written by Ernis on 24.12.2011 at 22:13
You probably didn't but I didn't expect you to get a similar picture anyway.

Written by Milena on 24.12.2011 at 22:17

I got something like that too, but only because I saw a picture somewhere of Tuomas playing the piano and Anette lying on the piano in a very long dress in some red-curtained place. It all went from there.

Written by Ernis on 24.12.2011 at 22:21

I think it wasn't because I saw the picture. For a song like this, you don't need any fantasy at all. Stage with red curtains in the background, bar tables around the place, cigar smoke floating in the air etc. It's stock imagery.

Written by Milena on 24.12.2011 at 22:27

I just said *I* saw the picture classic stuff but probably wouldn't have thought of it, I rarely make up scenes in my mind these days.

Written by Ernis on 24.12.2011 at 22:51

No need to stress that. I got it that you'd seen the photo. It was *I* who hadn't seen the picture before.

Written by Renard Solitaire on 25.12.2011 at 09:34

Marco's singing is compelling, as usual.

Written by Daniell on 09.01.2012 at 21:09

The amount of cheese and pretentious bullshit is overwhelming. All those annoying recitations, pseudo-circus melodies, folky fragments, over-the-top orchestrations - terrible.

Written by Ernis on 24.12.2011 at 21:59

Written by IronAngel on 24.12.2011 at 21:42

But I really, really don't get any smoky jazz bar vibes from the atmosphere or even the technical traits.

I do. But I'm no jazz specialist either, therefore my judgement might be clouded. There are indeed elements in that song that hint towards jazz even though it's still more like a typical Nightwish song. I do get the cigar bar pictures in my head while listening to this song and imagine Anette in her backstage room, puffing half burnt cigarettes from the ashtray and sipping some booze in front of the mirror while the dudes hang around in the lounge, supposedly rehearsing but instead just being wasted. Scantily dressed courtesans roaming around and in the end a black and white 40-ies gangster film scene where figures in hats and cloaks emerge from a foggy alley.

Written by Daniell on 09.01.2012 at 21:09

I liked Wishmaster and Once, so for old times' sake I decided to give this one a try. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I do know that this album is a part of a bigger movie project, so maybe it'll gain a few points when we can see the movie. But since Nightwish released the album as a separate, independent entity, the listener is allowed to judge Imaginaerum as such.

The amount of cheese and pretentious bullshit is overwhelming. All those annoying recitations, pseudo-circus melodies, folky fragments, over-the-top orchestrations - terrible. There are a few decent songs that can stand on their own, and in those songs Nightwish shines just like a few years ago. It's those few songs that prevent the album from being a total disaster.

Written by Winterthrone on 06.02.2012 at 20:20

Written by Daniell on 09.01.2012 at 21:09

I liked Wishmaster and Once, so for old times' sake I decided to give this one a try. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I do know that this album is a part of a bigger movie project, so maybe it'll gain a few points when we can see the movie. But since Nightwish released the album as a separate, independent entity, the listener is allowed to judge Imaginaerum as such.

The amount of cheese and pretentious bullshit is overwhelming. All those annoying recitations, pseudo-circus melodies, folky fragments, over-the-top orchestrations - terrible. There are a few decent songs that can stand on their own, and in those songs Nightwish shines just like a few years ago. It's those few songs that prevent the album from being a total disaster.

Oh man you really made me laugh with that comment. Symphonic Metal is a CHEEZY genre in its very essence... If you don't like cheese and listen to Nightwish then it's pretty normal you're not going to like the album...But wait you said you liked Wihmaster and Once two albums with lots of cheese,over the top orchestrations, folky fragments... And there is recitations in only one part of a song...lol Your argument is invalid.

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He may have meant that its cheese without substance, so to speak, which is how I felt after listening to it. First Nightwish album I've ever listened to, and only got through about two thirds of the album before I couldn't take another song, especially as ''Storytime'' was the only song that caught on with me (found it catchy), it of course being the second song of the album. After that, it felt like a disjointed, dragging labour listening to it. Even from an objective standpoint (i.e. observing the class without relying on any sort of connection I felt with it), all I could think about were all those things Daniell mentioned in his post.....