BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
25.03.2012 - 06:11Rating: 8
Just got it this week. haven't given it multiple spins yet, but i like it almost as much as "Death... The Brutal Way". that was my favorite DM album of that year, this will likely win 2012.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
25.03.2012 - 06:53Rating: 7
Amazing album but I honestly didn't read past the first paragraph.
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Dani5050
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25.03.2012 - 06:56Rating: 9
Great album indeed but what kind of modern death metal do you hate? care to share some bands for example.
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Baz Anderson StaffPosts: 13254 |
I think it is too easy to get sucked into the "untouchable" ways of "old school" death metal...
Yes this album basically replicates a lot of old death metal...
Yes, it is good...
It's not amazing though. It is as good as far as primitive, doomy death metal can come... but it plays way too heavily on the reputation of the "old school" I think.
Regardless, I think it is a good album. Worth a listen, but definitely not worth such a score.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
25.03.2012 - 10:25Rating: 8
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Baz Anderson on 25.03.2012 at 07:04
It's not amazing though. It is as good as far as primitive, doomy death metal can come... but it plays way too heavily on the reputation of the "old school" I think.
And you go go bananas over Vallenfyre? Talk about a bandwagon band playing way too heavily on the reputation of the "old school" at least Asphyx are the old school.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
25.03.2012 - 10:48Rating: 8
"...unlikely to spawn a better album than Deathhammer this year". You obviously haven't heard the latest from Dyscarnate
This album is good, but get's a bit grating after a while, especially after repeated listens. Though I'm far from an avid death fan so maybe I should just shut my pie-hole.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6100 |
25.03.2012 - 12:32Rating: 9
Written by R'Vannith on 25.03.2012 at 10:48
This album is good, but get's a bit grating after a while, especially after repeated listens.
Like any other album, no matter how good, so no surprise here
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6100 |
25.03.2012 - 12:34Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.03.2012 at 10:39
Written by Baz Anderson on 25.03.2012 at 07:04
It's not amazing though. It is as good as far as primitive, doomy death metal can come... but it plays way too heavily on the reputation of the "old school" I think.
And you go go bananas over Vallenfyre? Talk about a bandwagon band playing way too heavily on the reputation of the "old school" at least Asphyx are the old school.
My thoughts exactly. Asphyx are a very old band who play their music as they played it 20 years ago and they can't be accused of any trend chasing.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by R'Vannith on 25.03.2012 at 10:48
You obviously haven't heard the latest from Dyscarnate
I have and find it immensely pedestrian and mediocre, and also by far not as much variation as on Deathhammer.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Daniell on 25.03.2012 at 12:34
Asphyx are a very old band who play their music as they played it 20 years ago and they can't be accused of any trend chasing.
exactly, they are a band many bands try to copy and emulate. Asphyx do their own thing, the thing they have been doing since they started in 1987 (first demo in 1988). Btw only Bob Bagghus the drummer is the sole surviving orignal member.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
25.03.2012 - 12:51Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 25.03.2012 at 12:32
Written by R'Vannith on 25.03.2012 at 10:48
This album is good, but get's a bit grating after a while, especially after repeated listens.
Like any other album, no matter how good, so no surprise here
By 'grating' I mean it's begins to decline the more I listen, this, for me at least, doesn't always happen especially with a particularly good album. That's one of the qualities I look for in music, how long it can stay with you and whether it ever reaches a point where you think to yourself 'oh... really... this again?'
Granted the 'decline' isn't very rapid with this album, a sign to me that it's pretty damn good.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
25.03.2012 - 12:54Rating: 8
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.03.2012 at 12:38
Written by R'Vannith on 25.03.2012 at 10:48
You obviously haven't heard the latest from Dyscarnate
I have and find it immensely pedestrian and mediocre, and also by far not as much variation as on Deathhammer.
Well I have no doubt I'm far from as seasoned in Death metal as you, you'll have to give me a bit of leniency there. As far as comparisons go, I would agree Dyscarnate's latest isn't as varied, but I find it a little more engaging, and it's continues to be the more I listen.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by R'Vannith on 25.03.2012 at 12:54
Well I have no doubt I'm far from as seasoned in Death metal as you, you'll have to give me a bit of leniency there. As far as comparisons go, I would agree Dyscarnate's latest isn't as varied, but I find it a little more engaging, and it's continues to be the more I listen.
Tastes differ no matter how seasoned one is. I find Dyscarnate too modern sounding for my liking. And hence less engaging.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
25.03.2012 - 13:15Rating: 8
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.03.2012 at 13:04
Written by R'Vannith on 25.03.2012 at 12:54
Well I have no doubt I'm far from as seasoned in Death metal as you, you'll have to give me a bit of leniency there. As far as comparisons go, I would agree Dyscarnate's latest isn't as varied, but I find it a little more engaging, and it's continues to be the more I listen.
Tastes differ no matter how seasoned one is. I find Dyscarnate too modern sounding for my liking. And hence less engaging.
Fair enough, judging by the review and Daniell's obvious dislike for that 'modern' sound he'd probably agree with you there. I suppose in retrospect there's not really that much point comparing the two though, this one's more of a bludgeoning doom/death whereas that one's nothing of the sort.
I'm curious though what makes this one (or any death metal album for that matter) less 'modern', the production? They both sound like death to me, albeit of different kinds. I'm guessing perhaps the tone, this one sounds very.. I suppose grittier.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by R'Vannith on 25.03.2012 at 13:15
I'm curious though what makes this one (or any death metal album for that matter) less 'modern', the production? They both sound like death to me, albeit of different kinds. I'm guessing perhaps the tone, this one sounds very.. I suppose grittier.
I think the classic Asphyx sound of really REALLY rusty and crunchy chainsaw guitars is their true oldschool trademark sound which not only sets them apart from the current bands, but also from other old-school death metal bands as well.
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Good album, agree with the rating, but this review basically read like
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by [user id=111774] on 25.03.2012 at 19:09
Good album, agree with the rating, but this review basically read like
Old man yelling
That bothered me too.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 25.03.2012 at 19:14
Written by [user id=111774] on 25.03.2012 at 19:09
Good album, agree with the rating, but this review basically read like
Old man yelling
That bothered me too.
Especially seeing as it's a huge generalisation that isn't true. Plenty of great modern sounding death metal bands.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
25.03.2012 - 19:17Rating: 7
Written by X-Ray Rod on 25.03.2012 at 19:14 That bothered me too.
The majority of this thread reads like old men yelling.
I remember Marcel posted the lyrics to "Deathhammer" in the album thread... what a joke that was. I didn't realize musicians actually let Internet arguments fuel their lyrical content.
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^You must have never read the lyrics to a single modern day hip hop song.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
25.03.2012 - 19:21Rating: 7
Written by [user id=111774] on 25.03.2012 at 19:19 ^You must have never read the lyrics to a single modern day hip hop song.
My bad, I meant metal musicians.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 19:17 I didn't realize musicians actually let Internet arguments fuel their lyrical content.
I can almost imagine it.
They said I'm in the la-la dimension
since I didn't see drone in the equation
young reviewer, what a fool
Bitch doesn't know about doom.
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strade
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25.03.2012 - 20:11Rating: 9
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 19:21
Written by [user id=111774] on 25.03.2012 at 19:19 ^You must have never read the lyrics to a single modern day hip hop song.
My bad, I meant real musicians.
Fixed that for you.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 19:17
I didn't realize musicians actually let Internet arguments fuel their lyrical content.
Actually it's the other way around
These sort of arguments were already rife in fanzines long before the Net existed
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IronAngel
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Written by strade on 25.03.2012 at 20:11
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 19:21
Written by [user id=111774] on 25.03.2012 at 19:19 ^You must have never read the lyrics to a single modern day hip hop song.
My bad, I meant real musicians.
Fixed that for you.
And made an immature ass out of yourself. Congratulations.
Anyway, this album. It's good. Not amazing, but solid enjoyable.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by IronAngel on 25.03.2012 at 20:50
Written by strade on 25.03.2012 at 20:11
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 19:21
Written by [user id=111774] on 25.03.2012 at 19:19 ^You must have never read the lyrics to a single modern day hip hop song.
My bad, I meant real musicians.
Fixed that for you.
And made an immature ass out of yourself. Congratulations.
A metal forum isn't complete without your classic moron saying that hip hop isn't music.
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strade
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25.03.2012 - 20:56Rating: 9
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Slayer666
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What's with all the bitterness towards the new stuff, old-timers?
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