Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
We all know you listen and praise generic funeral doom. At least MC play their own brand
But let's not get off-topic too much, even thoguh tallking about boring and generic is extremely on-topic when it come to all of Be'lakor's albums
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Then all metal is generic, it's called Metal- a "genre" of music.
generic - Characteristic of or relating to a class or group; not specific:
Hence- all metal is generic, as long as the names of bands don't follow in the line of Band #1, Band #2, Band #3, etc.
Even then, the numerical distinction would still separate them.
What other band, when you listen to them, makes you say "They sound like Be'lakor"?
In a post-modern world, what isn't generic?
But, I know. Let's pretend we are all original and agree to see eye to eye when we're six feet deep/cremated. fuck it- dead.
I thought music was sensual- meaning a form of entertainment, expression, etc.
Verbally jousting over what band is good, better, best is pretty deadening in of itself- are we dead already?
Forgive me, I'm stoned.
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26.05.2012 - 14:22Rating: 9
Written by [user id=131073] on 26.05.2012 at 14:17 generic - Characteristic of or relating to a class or group; not specific:
What other band, when you listen to them, makes you say "They sound like Be'lakor"?
I'm on "your side" in this and I still disagree here.
You're describing generic as a categorization. Marcel meant generic as in "common", "not original/unusual", etc.
And most people would argue Insomnium, Omnium Gatherum, and to a lesser extent, Noumena, all sound like Be'lakor.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.05.2012 at 14:22
Written by [user id=131073] on 26.05.2012 at 14:17 generic - Characteristic of or relating to a class or group; not specific:
What other band, when you listen to them, makes you say "They sound like Be'lakor"?
I'm on "your side" in this and I still disagree here.
You're describing generic as a categorization. Marcel meant generic as in "common", "not original/unusual", etc.
And most people would argue Insomnium, Omnium Gatherum, and to a lesser extent, Noumena, all sound like Be'lakor.
Sorry for my additional edits. I didn't mean to infringe on your response.
I'm sure if we all listen to enough metal, loud and thumping in our ears, what sound is becomes quite personal.
But "common" is a categorization, so is "unusual". In this sense, it's not a commodity, like the words 'Doom' or 'Death', but they are still categorizations.
It just seems more prone of metal fans who listen to more distinctive, and "original" metal tend to blast what is "common". I rarely see someone who listens to what is "common" under "elitist" (If I can dare use that word) band threads bashing them for it.
As for this being Stone's Reach Part II, I think the one characteristic of their music they need to drop after this release is the 8-bit midi sounding sections throughout their music. If you focus on the instrumentation around these parts, and even underneath them, there is obvious progression in their music. These sections are what make me think "Stone's Reach Part II".
I'm not trying to argue with Marcel, I'll admit, I'm not into Doom, but I do respect it. I honestly haven't consumed enough of it to have a definite statement about Doom. But Warning's song Footprints is stellar, the entire album is amazing. I'm more into Death elements, I like fast more so than heavy. But heavy is good, no doubt. It's just not always my cup of tea. I'm listening to this again, after stepping away from it for awhile, listening to other stuff, and I like it even more. I wish it were a track or two longer- pretty much my only complaint.
And another thing, why is Mournful Congregation a hidden band? As Troy pointed out under "The Book of Kings"
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Written by R'Vannith on 01.11.2011 at 03:03 Cheers for the link!
No problem, more people need to be aware of this band/album.
Why is something so original hidden? What else are you elites hiding? tsk tsk....
I'm off to listen to "The Book of Kings", since I've found it. It's odd to blame people for not knowing of the hidden treasures of metal when you fuckers are hiding it. Who runs this pirate ship?
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.05.2012 at 13:41
But let's not get off-topic too much, even thoguh tallking about boring and generic is extremely on-topic when it come to all of Be'lakor's albums
Agreed on this...
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Written by [user id=131073] on 26.05.2012 at 14:27
...I think the one characteristic of their music they need to drop after this release is the 8-bit midi sounding sections throughout their music.
The spike riffs? That's classic Be'lakor man!
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Written by Timmeh on 27.05.2012 at 04:29
Written by [user id=131073] on 26.05.2012 at 14:27
...I think the one characteristic of their music they need to drop after this release is the 8-bit midi sounding sections throughout their music.
The spike riffs? That's classic Be'lakor man!
I know- I'm saying they need to move on. From 1:45-2:15 on Abeyance- and other sections throughout, I'm not a fan of. I don't mind them, but I'm happy when the music gets past them. When it's minimally used, like on By Moon and Star, at 3:41, I like it, but the previously mentioned portion of Abeyance, I really don't like it at all. I feel that way about most of these sections in their music, some I like, some I don't.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
27.05.2012 - 06:39Rating: 9
Written by [user id=131073] on 27.05.2012 at 06:33 I know- I'm saying they need to move on. From 1:45-2:15 on Abeyance- and other sections throughout, I'm not a fan of. I don't mind them, but I'm happy when the music gets past them.
You do realize their band name comes from a Warhammer character, right?
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 27.05.2012 at 06:39
Written by [user id=131073] on 27.05.2012 at 06:33 I know- I'm saying they need to move on. From 1:45-2:15 on Abeyance- and other sections throughout, I'm not a fan of. I don't mind them, but I'm happy when the music gets past them.
You do realize their band name comes from a Warhammer character, right?
Yes
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But, if I remember correctly, I've read interviews where the band claims the music isn't derived from the game itself. That the name was a suggestion, because a "couple" of the band mates play it.
"Yes, that was the origin of the name. A couple of the guys played Warhammer and Be'lakor was suggested as a potential band name. I remember that at first I was skeptical about the name, because at that stage I wanted something more 'typical' I suppose. However, looking back, I am really glad that we chose this name, because it's quite a different name when compared to many of the other metal band names out there." @ Teeth of the Divine
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"GK: Be'lakor is a character name we derived from the fantasy world of Warhammer, which several of our members enjoyed. The name itself has no particular significance; we chose it because it was short, sharp and phonetically pleasant." @ Metal Mayhem UK
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
27.05.2012 - 07:17Rating: 9
For someone whose signature is "it's whatever", you seem to have difficulty just leaving well enough alone.
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Whatever
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.Nick
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27.05.2012 - 12:42Rating: 9
Picking this up as soon as it is available at my local metal shop
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Yeah pretty much "Stone's Reach 2.0" - Same vibe but Ive only listened through it once. Hopefully it will grow enough on me to pick it up soonish.
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27.05.2012 - 18:08Rating: 10
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Written by [user id=1909] on 27.05.2012 at 17:56
Yeah pretty much "Stone's Reach 2.0" - Same vibe but Ive only listened through it once.
Yep, very natural progression. I would say the overall sound is more uniform compared to Stone's Reach.
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I've liked Be'Lakor a lot since discovering their first album, one of my favorite bands. While their music definitely doesn't jump out at you, offer anything completely new, or even showcase amazing technical skill, the song writing is completely top notch. I love the progression of the songs and the organic transformation that takes place. There is a great mix of up-tempo, down-tempo and atmospheric elements. Normally I never really get into bands like this but for some reason they strike a chord with me. I have yet to listen to this album but am about to. Their production on the last two albums was "good enough" but never great. That's the strangest thing about this band for me, other than song writing no one element stands out but together it just works.
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31.05.2012 - 23:08Rating: 10
This album is perfect in every way. I cant stop listening to it
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01.06.2012 - 20:41Rating: 10
Finally! Another perfect production of one of my favorite bands. It's been months of waiting, there's no words to express the awesomeness of this album, every track is epic as hell. I simply can't stop listening.
"In Parting" and "The Dream And The Waking" (and of course "Fraught"!) are my favorite tracks.
It's not the best album of the year, it'ts the best album of recent years! Perfect.
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Very good review.
A good release, definitely a grower.
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Milena gloom cookie StaffPosts: 4603 |
12.06.2012 - 23:35Rating: 8
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So Troy, in your opinion, this is Be'lakor's Above The Weeping World-moment?
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13.06.2012 - 00:31Rating: 9
Written by Milena on 12.06.2012 at 23:35 So Troy, in your opinion, this is Be'lakor's Above The Weeping World-moment?
It's tough to say. I mean, Stone's Reach was already so good... their discography is shaping up to look rather similar compared to Insomnium's though.
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26.06.2012 - 00:43Rating: 9
Written by Lustful Maid on 25.06.2012 at 23:14 Overrated.
This is an Experimental Death Album. Trying to combine styles of Swallow The Sun's The Morning Never Came and Agalloch's The Mantle. Making use of Death style to keep your emotion high, and mixing Agalloch's experimental style to soothe you. Unfortunately, it was not well blended, always make my attention wander. Techinically they are no match with S.T.S and Agalloch. The music failed to keep your emotion steady could be the reason to make you feel bored.
The guitarists picked their string a lot in their first few song, similar to "staccato" technique in keyboard was innovative. Very Experimental.
There really isn't anything experimental going on here; it's a fairly straight-forward melodic death metal album that emphasizes a somber atmosphere. These guys have never had anything to do with the melodic death doom style of Swallow the Sun, nor do they have any ties to the atmo-black/dark folk hybrid of Agalloch.
I can understand someone not liking this album for a variety of reasons - but because it sounds like a poor version of Swallow the Sun or Agalloch? I honestly don't even understand how either of those two bands were brought up in the discussion.
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Anduriel
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I started on Stone's Reach before I listened to The Frail Tide and I liked the sound from The Frail Tide better than Stone's Reach even though it was more polished - I found that to be much the same for Of Breath and Bone. Then I saw them live, playing from all the albums and the live sound of the latest albums is much more powerful. I think that the CD releases cleans up the sound a bit too much, especially how the "8-bit midi" sound as another poster put it is rather jarringly audible on the CD yet actually works really well live.
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John Shock
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Nice review men!
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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04.07.2012 - 06:15Rating: 8
Agree that this is a good review. Very well written. And I happen to agree with the sentiments expressed.
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Until the End
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11.07.2012 - 03:42Rating: 10
I wouldn't say it's experimental, just very (very,very,very,very x1 trillion) well performed melodic death metal with a good atmosphere and very few flaws. There's not particularly a point in the album where I feel the need to skip and that defines what a good album is to me. It's also one of those albums which has grown on me the more I've listened to it and sounds better after every play through. Needless to say, it'll probably be in my top 3 for the year.
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Coconut Racecar
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This band is another one of those gems I magically managed to overlook.. I've been really in to the melodic/doomy sound lately and these guys, Insomnium, Enslaved and Woods Of Ypres have quickly become favorites. Awesome music, and the album cover is also a favorite.
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Darrek
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Excellent album from start to finish, a must buy for almost everyone who likes melodic death metal.
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09.06.2016 - 09:48Rating: 8
I have finally fallen for this band whose name I often met here and there. Definitely this album is great, full of inspiration and great moments. Funnily some parts remind me of early Amorphis albums ! Yet it is also quite a quiet album and atm I cannot think of it being played live. Anyway time to check the tracks from the forthcoming album
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13.03.2019 - 18:23Rating: 8
Very good record indeed, but not as good as other Be´lakor releases. Still a really good CD. Very melodic and intense.
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