Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Yeah, ultimately a "good but not great" kind of band. I regret giving the last album a 9 in my review, looking back
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 13.01.2018 at 19:17
Yeah, ultimately a "good but not great" kind of band. I regret giving the last album a 9 in my review, looking back
Summoning have some damn great albums, but their last two were pretty underwhelming. And at this point in their career they have no excuse not to afford good mastering
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s_t_s
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Have only listened to a couple of okyish tracks so far but it's the same old Summoning. As you said it's not a bad formula but why get several albums while they all sound the same ? Listened to Minas Morgul again today and while I like it esp track 3 and 8, this is the kind of ambient music I will listen to here and there but that will leak out of my memory as soon as the CD is out of my system.
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Written by s_t_s on 13.01.2018 at 19:34
Have only listened to a couple of okyish tracks so far but it's the same old Summoning. As you said it's not a bad formula but why get several albums while they all sound the same ? Listened to Minas Morgul again today and while I like it esp track 3 and 8, this is the kind of ambient music I will listen to here and there but that will leak out of my memory as soon as the CD is out of my system.
Summoning is atmo black of course the main point of the music is ambiance, but don't tell me Long Lost To Where No Pathway Goes or Land Of The Dead aren't earworms
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Not their worst album, but not best. Production and mix are better as some of 90,s work. Imo its not bm, not even symhonic bm, mixture between symphonic nusik and bm. World would be poorer if summoning would not exist, but if this would be real band whit five persons it would be better.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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14.01.2018 - 13:17Rating: 6
After 2nd attempt, I wouldn't insist on "letdown of the decade", but it is still weak. I don't like it, they know to do much better...
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s_t_s
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Written by RaduP on 13.01.2018 at 19:42
Written by s_t_s on 13.01.2018 at 19:34
Have only listened to a couple of okyish tracks so far but it's the same old Summoning. As you said it's not a bad formula but why get several albums while they all sound the same ? Listened to Minas Morgul again today and while I like it esp track 3 and 8, this is the kind of ambient music I will listen to here and there but that will leak out of my memory as soon as the CD is out of my system.
Summoning is atmo black of course the main point of the music is ambiance, but don't tell me Long Lost To Where No Pathway Goes or Land Of The Dead aren't earworms
Had to check these titles out on YT to identify them This tells all imo about Summoning music : good but so forgettable as well, at least this is my opinion and see no offence, I enjoy this music but only for short sessions.
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7378 |
I get the feeling of being tortured by the same uninteresting riff on repeat, the musical equivalent of the Chinese water torture. In the first couple of songs the riff is identical, hence 20 minutes of the same stuff. Summoning always based their songs on one main idea and built everything around it. In Stronghold for example, the ideas were interesting and this is why this album is engaging and hypnotic. Inspiration is clearly lacking here and the whole thing is a fucking borefest. The only song that is sort of worth listening to is "With Doom I Come". Best soundtrack for people who suffer from insomnia.
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Written by nikarg on 14.01.2018 at 14:30
I get the feeling of being tortured by the same uninteresting riff on repeat, the musical equivalent of the Chinese water torture. In the first couple of songs the riff is identical, hence 20 minutes of the same stuff. Summoning always based their songs on one main idea and built everything around it. In Stronghold for example, the ideas were interesting and this is why this album is engaging and hypnotic. Inspiration is clearly lacking here and the whole thing is a fucking borefest. The only song that is sort of worth listening to is "With Doom I Come". Best soundtrack for people who suffer from insomnia.
Everyone seems to be praising that song, when I actually like it among the least. I liked Mirklands and Silvertine the most, although I doubt I'll be coming back to them anytime soon.
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Boxcar Willy REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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15.01.2018 - 01:38Rating: 4
There generic Summoning sound, only this time with awful production. It's a chore to make it through this.
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Dark Cornatus Powerslave ElitePosts: 4330 |
15.01.2018 - 04:04Rating: 6
This review was pretty much how i felt after listening to the album back in December. I've tried numerous times to get into it.
With Doom I Come and Silvertine only tracks worthy of mention. The rest are generic, especially Mirklands. It the production was stronger, it would have REALLY helped. Not sure how they even released it this poor.
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MMizfall
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15.01.2018 - 05:16Rating: 8
Sometime it happens, sometimes even good bands like Summoning and Opeth can make few less than stellar albums. I still enjoyed this one
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by MMizfall on 15.01.2018 at 05:16
Sometime it happens, sometimes even good bands like Summoning and Opeth can make few less than stellar albums. I still enjoyed this one
Opeth has made crap albums, Watershed was the last decent album in their discography. Summoning has been on a downward spiral, which can be construed since LMHSYF, which was weaker than Stronghold, Oath Bound weaker than LMHSYF and so on. Even with a good production this album wouldn't have amounted to anything better as the songwriting is also weak, with no real highlights.
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MMizfall
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15.01.2018 - 12:39Rating: 8
Qathbound and LMHSF while not among my favorites are just different albums, they don't sound like the band put a mediocre effort, and Old Mornings Dawn is easily one of their peaks. This album however feels like it lacks inspiration.
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 15.01.2018 at 11:22
Opeth has made crap albums, Watershed was the last decent album in their discography. Summoning has been on a downward spiral, which can be construed since LMHSYF, which was weaker than Stronghold, Oath Bound weaker than LMHSYF and so on. Even with a good production this album wouldn't have amounted to anything better as the songwriting is also weak, with no real highlights.
Both Pale Communion and Heritage are better than Watershed. Sorceress however is their weakest album to date.
Also I don't think Oath Bound is weaker than LMHSYF.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by RaduP on 15.01.2018 at 15:59
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 15.01.2018 at 11:22
Opeth has made crap albums, Watershed was the last decent album in their discography. Summoning has been on a downward spiral, which can be construed since LMHSYF, which was weaker than Stronghold, Oath Bound weaker than LMHSYF and so on. Even with a good production this album wouldn't have amounted to anything better as the songwriting is also weak, with no real highlights.
Both Pale Communion and Heritage are better than Watershed. Sorceress however is their weakest album to date.
Also I don't think Oath Bound is weaker than LMHSYF.
I can't call generic, Rush ripped off prog rock albums as better than an innovative prog metal album, honestly. Instead of them continuing their own path, they chose to rip off a former prog rock giant, which for me is like going from playing Mussorgsky to covering a rock version of Jingle Bells.
Oath Bound is close in quality with LMHSYF, but unlike the later, it has more filler material.
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 15.01.2018 at 19:23
I can't call generic, Rush ripped off prog rock albums as better than an innovative prog metal album, honestly. Instead of them continuing their own path, they chose to rip off a former prog rock giant, which for me is like going from playing Mussorgsky to covering a rock version of Jingle Bells.
Oath Bound is close in quality with LMHSYF, but unlike the later, it has more filler material.
How is Watershed innovative and Pale Communion a Rush ripoff. PC is a ripoff but not really of Rush, yet it's still less generic than Watershed.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by RaduP on 15.01.2018 at 20:11
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 15.01.2018 at 19:23
I can't call generic, Rush ripped off prog rock albums as better than an innovative prog metal album, honestly. Instead of them continuing their own path, they chose to rip off a former prog rock giant, which for me is like going from playing Mussorgsky to covering a rock version of Jingle Bells.
Oath Bound is close in quality with LMHSYF, but unlike the later, it has more filler material.
How is Watershed innovative and Pale Communion a Rush ripoff. PC is a ripoff but not really of Rush, yet it's still less generic than Watershed.
Innovative in the sense that it was their trademark sound, the one they developed and refined along the way from the 90s up to it. The last 3 albums are clearly a throwback to 70s prog rock. Nothing against prog rock itself, I like some 70s prog rock, although much of it is generic and pretentious, but Opeth play it by the book, almost copying what others did decades ago. As I hate the 60s blues revival, that got prolonged until the mid 70s, a bunch of white musicians overusing the blues scale until it was bled dry, I do not like modern bands going back to a sound that has become stale and dry for decades already. I listened to PC, Sorceress and Heritage, but little variation can be found between them. Not to mention how big the challenge was to not fall asleep from boredom.
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Litvin
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19.01.2018 - 23:41Rating: 10
Written by RaduP on 19.01.2018 at 23:40
Summoning claim to come with doom, but it's still synthy atmospheric black metal, not doom metal.
Are you joking? Title "With doom we come" does not mean to say they starting to play doom metal.
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Karlabos
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20.01.2018 - 01:07Rating: 6
Written by Litvin on 19.01.2018 at 23:41
Are you joking?
Guess...
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7378 |
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NorkkturnHH
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23.01.2018 - 05:13Rating: 9
I enjoy this album a lot. The repetitve riffs are what made Summoning sounds like... Summoning. It is also IMO the basic structure of any atmospheric black metal ( to have repetitive riffs) . It is synthy, melancholic and epic. My favourites are Tar-Calion, Charcaroth and Mirklands.
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Dungeon Shaker
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I gobbled up the With Doom I Come ep, which garnered a slew of genuine excitement. Perhaps it inflated my hopes, as the actual album was met with disappointment. Enjoyable, yet unremarkable save for Silvertine and the title track.
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Cobalto
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27.01.2018 - 15:23Rating: 6
Totally agree with the review. "With doom we come" has a lot of potencial and keeps the typical Summoning elements. unfortunatelly the production and mixing is terrible, even for Summoning standards. this reminds of old demos raw sound, very bad. "With doom we come" could be a tremendous album but in the end it´s just plain average. some good moments however:
Tar-Calion
Night Fell Behind
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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04.02.2023 - 17:23Rating: 6
Just found out there are two bonus tracks (have the original CD, but w/o them). Those are pretty good, 'As Echoes From The World Of Old' might even be the best on the album (same as 'With Fire And Sword', a bonus from previous one).
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DarkWingedSoul
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07.09.2024 - 21:19Rating: 8
mix or no mix it still has the summoning vibe and atmosphere, hope wasnt their last album though.
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AndyMetalFreak A Nice Guy ContributorPosts: 5340 |
07.09.2024 - 22:06Rating: 7
It might be far from their best work but even then I still find it a pretty good album. "Silvertine" has always been the stand-out song for me off this album.
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