Katatronik Angel of Lust
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29.06.2008 - 20:22Rating: 9
Great album indeed, my second favourite Pantera album (first is Vulgar, obviously...), amazing songs and vocals... Good review once again!
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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29.06.2008 - 20:30Rating: 9
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thanx man. by the way, do you people agree that the thrash of nowadays is nothing as it was in the 80's 'cause I heard there is a revival going on?
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Hamird Lieutenant
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I like this album, while I've never have support any thrash metal band! but I like Phil Anselmo, and the truth that Pantera was one of the most influential bands of 90's cannot be denied!
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13.07.2008 - 14:06Rating: 9
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I would agree this album is better than most of the stuff coming out these days. Like you, I'm not familiar with their 80s material but this is easily the best Pantera album I've heard. Comparable in a few ways to Forbidden's Twisted into Form from the same year, though that album is probably stronger as a whole.
In the review I would have liked to see mention of some more songs, like the screaming, shreddy Shattered, or the unorthodox Message in Blood. Good job though. I give the album 9/10
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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13.07.2008 - 14:31Rating: 9
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You know what. You may be right about the fact that I should have mentioned more songs. Now I can even see what I would add to this review.... Thanx for the comment. And I'm gonna listen to that Forbidden's album as soon as possible.
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Elio Red Nightmare
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16.08.2008 - 15:50Rating: 9
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great thrash metal...thx pantera for that piece of art called Cemetery Gates and good review, the vote is fair
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Written by Katatronik on 29.06.2008 at 20:22
Great album indeed, my second favourite Pantera album (first is Vulgar, obviously...), amazing songs and vocals... Good review once again!
i to agree an amazing album maybe one of favorites
damn i miss pantera
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser StaffPosts: 9723 |
02.12.2008 - 23:30Rating: 7
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Not really a Pantera fan, but I enjoyed this album, nice review.
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Pantera is great, and this album is one of their masterpiece, the other is Vulgar Dislay of Power. Anselmo is a great singer, and he did a good job in this album, but I dont think that his voice is like Rob Halford . and IMO they are Groove and they have nothin with Thrash. And the most important part of Pantera was Dim.(R.I.P.)
nice review thank Ktulu
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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07.12.2008 - 10:28Rating: 9
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Written by [user id=31891] on 07.12.2008 at 09:30
Pantera is great, and this album is one of their masterpiece, the other is Vulgar Dislay of Power. Anselmo is a great singer, and he did a good job in this album, but I dont think that his voice is like Rob Halford . and IMO they are Groove and they have nothin with Thrash. And the most important part of Pantera was Dim.(R.I.P.)
nice review thank Ktulu
Of course, his voice is not like Halford's. It just reminded me of Halford on some songs (impressive singing it was you know). And as far as Thrash and Groove, holy crap, of course that's Thrash, groove or not groove, it's freaking Thrash, and very good Thrash actually.
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Written by K✞ulu on 07.12.2008 at 10:28
Written by [user id=31891] on 07.12.2008 at 09:30
Pantera is great, and this album is one of their masterpiece, the other is Vulgar Dislay of Power. Anselmo is a great singer, and he did a good job in this album, but I dont think that his voice is like Rob Halford . and IMO they are Groove and they have nothin with Thrash. And the most important part of Pantera was Dim.(R.I.P.)
nice review thank Ktulu
Of course, his voice is not like Halford's. It just reminded me of Halford on some songs (impressive singing it was you know). And as far as Thrash and Groove, holy crap, of course that's Thrash, groove or not groove, it's freaking Thrash, and very good Thrash actually.
they r actually different form all of other thrash bands dont u know? thats why they r groove. they have just one guitarist and u always hear just one guitar. for example u cant hear a powerchord with a solo. but in thrash bands it not like this man! thats what i mean. pantera is not comparable to metallica, slayer, exodus, testament, anthrax or megadeth. and this is just my opinion cause Ive said before Im against the term so called "Genre". sometimes Classifications r ture and sometimes rnt. take a look at Metal-Archives they didnt mention that Pantera is Thrash metal. And Im agree with them.
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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07.12.2008 - 12:01Rating: 9
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Written by [user id=31891] on 07.12.2008 at 11:17
Written by K✞ulu on 07.12.2008 at 10:28
Written by [user id=31891] on 07.12.2008 at 09:30
Pantera is great, and this album is one of their masterpiece, the other is Vulgar Dislay of Power. Anselmo is a great singer, and he did a good job in this album, but I dont think that his voice is like Rob Halford . and IMO they are Groove and they have nothin with Thrash. And the most important part of Pantera was Dim.(R.I.P.)
nice review thank Ktulu
Of course, his voice is not like Halford's. It just reminded me of Halford on some songs (impressive singing it was you know). And as far as Thrash and Groove, holy crap, of course that's Thrash, groove or not groove, it's freaking Thrash, and very good Thrash actually.
they r actually different form all of other thrash bands dont u know? thats why they r groove. they have just one guitarist and u always hear just one guitar. for example u cant hear a powerchord with a solo. but in thrash bands it not like this man! thats what i mean. pantera is not comparable to metallica, slayer, exodus, testament, anthrax or megadeth. and this is just my opinion cause Ive said before Im against the term so called "Genre". sometimes Classifications r ture and sometimes rnt. take a look at Metal-Archives they didnt mention that Pantera is Thrash metal. And Im agree with them.
Yeah, you can hear the solo and a chord on some songs, like Cowboys or Domination, and it has nothing to do with defining whether they are thrash. They sound like, man; it's all about the riffing. And they are freaking thrash, and many bands agree about it.
And what is this bullcrap argument structure: you are saying you don't like defining genres, but you are telling Pantera are not Thrash. And on this album they are the least thrashy out of all from their thrash era... on later albums what they play is freaking Thrash, which IS indeed different from the bands mentioned by you.
But... those are so freaking different sounding bands even between them that bringing up that point is just ridiculous.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Pantera are definitely thrash. Yes they groove as well, that's why they are also called groove thrash. The were actually more or less th single band to keep thrash alive in the early Nineties.
Pantera are called thrash by ALL majore thrash bands as well. Jjust watch Get Thrashed: The Story Of Thrash Metal where they even have a chapter dedicated to them.
Btw Metal Archives are quite crappy when it comes to genre defining.
All thrashers who grew up with thrash and live through the Eighties and Nineties recognise Patera from Cowboys onwards as thrash as well.
As for The_Black_God's reasoning they only have one guitar... Overkill (at least on their first two albums which are their most thrash), Wargasm, M.O.D., Watchtower, Rigor Mortis, Hirax, all only have ONE guitar and those are just a few bands that spring to mind.
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@Marcel
for me they r not a thrash metal band, and my reason is that they rnt like others which u call thrash. and I know that a lot of ppl callin them Modern Thrash metal or somthin like it. But I think u can like Pantera and hate Thrash metal. this is why I think they r not thrash, cause I know a lot of ppl who loves Pantera but hate other thrash bands. but u call it what u want, its my personal opinion and I think that some ppl r agree with me
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
@The_Black_God if you want to keep on believing they are not Thrash metal then please keep on living in your own little fantasy world.
You denying they are thrash is totally opposite of what your favourite band (Metallica) says about them, what Slayer says about them, what Megadeth says about them, what Anthrax, Testament, Dark Angel, Overkill, Sacred Reich, Exhorder, Death Angel, Kreator, Exodus... all say about Pantera. So you actually think all the masters of thrash are wrong by labelling this album and the Pantera albums after this one as thrash?
Just because they don't sound like any of those bands (not true btw, cause they borrowed heavily from Exhorder's sound) doesn't mean they aren't thrash it just means they have their own distinctive sound. Just like all the bands I just mentioned have their own sound.
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BobNickMad
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16.04.2009 - 14:35Rating: 9
Written by K✞ulu on 29.06.2008 at 20:30
thanx man. by the way, do you people agree that the thrash of nowadays is nothing as it was in the 80's 'cause I heard there is a revival going on?
That would be awsome.
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BobNickMad
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16.04.2009 - 14:36Rating: 9
Written by [user id=31891] on 07.12.2008 at 14:14
@Marcel
for me they r not a thrash metal band, and my reason is that they rnt like others which u call thrash. and I know that a lot of ppl callin them Modern Thrash metal or somthin like it. But I think u can like Pantera and hate Thrash metal. this is why I think they r not thrash, cause I know a lot of ppl who loves Pantera but hate other thrash bands. but u call it what u want, its my personal opinion and I think that some ppl r agree with me
Correct groove-metal is not thrash-metal,it's has a more than a distinctive sound.
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Ph0eNiX Fire from Above
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BEst album they did. Vulgar Display of Power was decant. After that it went to crap.
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18.08.2009 - 03:07Rating: 9
Written by Ph0eNiX on 01.05.2009 at 06:49
BEst album they did. Vulgar Display of Power was decant. After that it went to crap.
Wow. Someone else thinks so too?! I 100% agree with this statement.
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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18.08.2009 - 10:02Rating: 9
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Written by Fat & Sassy! on 18.08.2009 at 03:07
Written by Ph0eNiX on 01.05.2009 at 06:49
BEst album they did. Vulgar Display of Power was decant. After that it went to crap.
Wow. Someone else thinks so too?! I 100% agree with this statement.
So do I.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by K✞ulu on 18.08.2009 at 10:02
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 18.08.2009 at 03:07
Written by Ph0eNiX on 01.05.2009 at 06:49
BEst album they did. Vulgar Display of Power was decant. After that it went to crap.
Wow. Someone else thinks so too?! I 100% agree with this statement.
So do I.
I wholeheartedly disagree
Far Beyond Driven is still their best for me. Cowboys was decent but a bit unbalanced, same for Vulgar.
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
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18.08.2009 - 10:52Rating: 9
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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18.08.2009 - 11:05Rating: 9
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@ pyro
same here.
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Written by Dangerboner on 18.08.2009 at 10:52
hmm strange that you call Cowboys unbalanced - I think that's their only album w/o filler. Far Beyond Driven has some great shit, but sadly has the most amount of filler, making it their most unbalanced album for me.
The tracks on Cowboys which bring it down for me are Shattered, Heresy, Medicine Man, Message In Blood, and Psycho Holiday (so a grand 5 tracks in total) whereas on Far Beyond Driven it is only Becoming, Slaughtered and to a lesser extent the Planet Caravan cover.
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
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18.08.2009 - 11:21Rating: 9
Shattered? But I love that song. You have crushed my tiny leprechaun heart
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Written by Dangerboner on 18.08.2009 at 11:21
Shattered? But I love that song. You have crushed my tiny leprechaun heart
But at least you still have that pot of gold at the end of your rainbow
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Panterica
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27.08.2009 - 19:03Rating: 8
Their greatest for me, Vulgar is close, but the high-pitch screams by Phil are missing.
BTW: Their early stuff are pretty good, it's pretty different from Cowboys and later releases stuff, but still very enjoyable, check out Power Metal, their first album with Phil on the vocals.
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06.05.2010 - 18:34Rating: 5
Written by Katatronik on 29.06.2008 at 20:22
Great album indeed, my second favourite Pantera album (first is Vulgar, obviously...), amazing songs and vocals... Good review once again!
same with me...
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Judas The Priest
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Yeah i feel ya, slayer and metallica never really clicked with me cause they're too fast and inaudible, after entering the world of metal through priest and maiden, pantera kicks the shit outta those bands, mainly cause i can understand what anselmo is yelling
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Good review, great album, and I have listened to pre-Cowboys Pantera, and I can confirm it's...pretty crappy. Cowboys from Hell is the first relevant Pantera album lol
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