Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Althoguh I more or less agree with what you wrote, I find a 6 a bit too low. I would give it a 7 myself.
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annodomini
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02.09.2011 - 19:48Rating: 9
Oh cmon DDD Probably first your review that I completely dissagree with.
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
02.09.2011 - 19:51Rating: 6
Written by annodomini on 02.09.2011 at 19:48
Oh cmon DDD Probably first your review that I completely dissagree with.
xD I really gave this album too much from my time and it didn't pay me back. And time doesn't come back :/
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Vonpire
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02.09.2011 - 19:56Rating: 10
Hahahahahahaha
Hhahahahahahahahaha
Loooollll
Nice cheat!
Too bad you didn't like it or didn't find anything new in It. Weird though having in sight 70% of all other review of this album I saw considering it from very good to almost perfect.
Tastes! Even Marcel would give it 7 O_o !! (although he gave it a 6 also )
In fact it's even weirder such an average album (as you say on your review) still being the 8th on 2001 top with 8.4 average. Mostly people just don't get how average this album Is!
Shame on Us !
P.S. - But it's an ok review , of course I totally disagree and in fact I even like your reviews generally speaking.
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Cassian
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I find out that this album takes some time to really feel the music and enjoy it.
Come on, stick with it in a week and perhaps you would give it a better rate
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Cassian on 02.09.2011 at 20:01
I find out that this album takes some time to really feel the music and enjoy it.
Come on, stick with it in a week and perhaps you would give it a better rate
Knowing Rozz he stuck with it for a couple of weeks. And he is a huge fan of their earlier works.
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
02.09.2011 - 20:10Rating: 6
@Vonpire: I don't rely on statistics when it comes to my personal opinion. It didn't pay me back for the amount of time i spent with it trying to help it grow on me. You don't have to "try" to sound "ironic". In the end, i didn't even refer to the percentage of all other reviews on this album and it really doesn't matter to me if it's on the 8th position with 8.4 average. I'm not an ambassador of all those people, i represent myself and only myself and i didn't refer to anyone alse but myself since it's my personal point of view. So "shame on you" who like it is totally pointless. Glad you like it, apparently it didn't have the same crush on me and i was expecting it with a great enthusiasm.
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Vonpire
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02.09.2011 - 20:16Rating: 10
Ok ok, sorry for the shame on us part Not shame on us! After all we are the lucky ones that could get completely into this album and appreciate it to it's full extent.
Don't take it personally. I already get that this album is one of those that you love it or almost hate it. But I can't agree that there aren't anything new on this or that the songs don't stick on your mind.
I'm just sad you didn't like it, that's all. Not that big of a problem really.
As I said it's an ok review it's your taste and taste is like sex, everyone has one of it's own (well ok there are people who has both but that's the exception )
I hate warning's WFAD and many people love it. It's almost same thing.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6120 |
02.09.2011 - 20:39Rating: 7
My bet is - Vonpire will earn a ban in this thread
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Vonpire
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02.09.2011 - 21:00Rating: 10
Hmmm and that is because? Don't bet or you'll loose your money. No way I'm being banned. I can have many defects but being rude or offensive isn't one of them. I can be ironic sometimes but that really don't give a ban to anyone.
Besides I'm not gonna post links or something... For that there is google. Anyone interested on different reviews from another pov simply search "A Rose for the Apocalypse Review".
I can even do this and no one is going to ban me :
Review 1 : 4,5/5 (4.5 = Excellent)
Review 2 : 9 sins out of 10 (biggest score the reviewer has ever given to a album )
Review 3 : 10/10 (yes it's the biggest rating reviewer ever given cause he don't find anything better in the genre)
Review 4 : 8,5/10
Review 5 : 4,5/5
Review 6 : 9.5/10
As you see all those reviewers loved the album. That's why is so difficult to agree even a single bit with the DerRozzengarten review. Glad I am not alone though or I'll think the problem was really mine.
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AngelCorpse13
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Don't feed the trolls -__-
I'm gonna still check it out, but this at least let's me know there's a chance I'm gonna be disappointed. And these guys will probably get sales on this one too, especially if it's rehashing a sound...I've never understood it but people just love the sweet sound of rehashed music.
Either way, interesting viewpoint with an honest rating.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6120 |
02.09.2011 - 21:15Rating: 7
Written by Vonpire on 02.09.2011 at 21:00
Hmmm and that is because? Don't bet or you'll loose your money. No way I'm being banned. I can have many defects but being rude or offensive isn't one of them. I can be ironic sometimes but that really don't give a ban to anyone.
Besides I'm not gonna post links or something... For that there is google. Anyone interested on different reviews from another pov simply search "A Rose for the Apocalypse Review".
You still didn't thanked me
Why would I thank you?
Also, I don't give a flying fuck if 500 reviews gave this album a straight 10. Metalstorm's review gave it a 6 and that's it. This rating is what it is - a rating given by our reviewer. He, just like me, doesn't care about other ratings, he assesses albums according to his own, unbiased will.
If you get worked up over a rating, if you can't fucking understand that people have various opinions that aren't necessarily similar to yours, there are 2 possible outcomes. Either you are simply a pathetic idiot, or you need to see a psychiatrist.
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Vonpire
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02.09.2011 - 21:43Rating: 10
Don't thank me. In fact ignore me.
If you don't respect my view over this review there is only one outcome. You are obsessed with me and being ridiculous. Being a staff guy it's even worse. In fact I wonder why all those trolling happens with staff or pseudo-elite...??? Why would that be huh? Isn't it ridiculous enough to auto-nominate someone part of a elite? Whatever...
DerRozzengarten opinion is perfectly ok as is ok me don't agreeing with it and laughing at it or whatever I do. It's my opinion. You don't like it and contradict yourself in every post you make. it's simply amazing and unbeliavable
I only said that other 500+ reviewers share the same opinion as I. You went all paranoid and offensive, as always. In fact you really have a problem with me and I don't give a shit about it.
Probably all of those reviewers are pathetic Idiots who need to see a psychiatrist also.
Or maybe it's just you and your ridiculous obsession the pathetic thing here.
Edit : I see we can simply post fuck on posts (you did it and if a staff member can do it so can I)
So
FUCK OFF and stop constantly being around whatever I write! I don't like mans, so you don't have a chance with me. Are you going to ban me for this? You can always try and win the most retarded prize!
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Prometheus
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02.09.2011 - 22:06Rating: 9
Really good album for me even if the previous like burning halo or arcane rain fell are better
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Prometheus
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02.09.2011 - 22:08Rating: 9
Written by Daniell on 02.09.2011 at 21:15
Written by Vonpire on 02.09.2011 at 21:00
Hmmm and that is because? Don't bet or you'll loose your money. No way I'm being banned. I can have many defects but being rude or offensive isn't one of them. I can be ironic sometimes but that really don't give a ban to anyone.
Besides I'm not gonna post links or something... For that there is google. Anyone interested on different reviews from another pov simply search "A Rose for the Apocalypse Review".
You still didn't thanked me
Why would I thank you?
Also, I don't give a flying fuck if 500 reviews gave this album a straight 10. Metalstorm's review gave it a 6 and that's it. This rating is what it is - a rating given by our reviewer. He, just like me, doesn't care about other ratings, he assesses albums according to his own, unbiased will.
If you get worked up over a rating, if you can't fucking understand that people have various opinions that aren't necessarily similar to yours, there are 2 possible outcomes. Either you are simply a pathetic idiot, or you need to see a psychiatrist.
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Vonpire
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02.09.2011 - 22:34Rating: 10
Just a last note and then I'll let all of you discussing the review as you wish.
Just look at the infamous ponderer review of enslaved's AEO and the comments it generated and specially the people involved on it.
Almost everybody didn't agreed with the review (for obvious reasons). I was one of them.
But apparently no one respected his opinion at all! This daniell made a review of the same album. Two different views on same album. Just check the reactions on both. It should be a case study.
You can continue the criticism / insults because I don't agree with this review in any aspect of it. In fact it even appears that it was a ordered review with a well-defined objective...
But I believe it's not and it's the sincere reviewer opinion. Now if I can't disagree and bring my pov on the subject without being constantly insulted, this site is simply dying.
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JakeTheSage
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Huh, I really liked it. Perhaps not quite as much as ARF or TSW, but close. It's solid doom, and with While Heaven Wept leaving the subgenre, probably the best doom I've heard this year.
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Fat & Sassy! ElitePosts: 3857 |
Written by Vonpire on 02.09.2011 at 22:34
But apparently no one respected his opinion at all! This daniell made a review of the same album. Two different views on same album. Just check the reactions on both. It should be a case study.
Maybe because Daniell's review wasn't senseless trolling banter? Ponderer's review didn't get shit because no one agreed with him. Some objective statements he pointed out were just flat-out WRONG. Do you have some sort of disability to properly comprehend the things you read?
And please don't play victim here. You reap what you sow.
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serega25
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Come on, its not a objective rating!:noidea: Why is songwriting only a 6? Here is some really great songs like " The Drowning Age or Elysian Night and The Death Of Hours". I think, that a true rate is 8.7 or 8.8
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
02.09.2011 - 22:50Rating: 6
Written by Vonpire on 02.09.2011 at 22:34
In fact it even appears that it was a ordered review with a well-defined objective...
But I believe it's not and it's the sincere reviewer opinion.
I don't see any point in writing a review and saying the opposite from what i'd like to say for a "well-defined objective". We're not a paramilitary organisation, we're a music portal that deals with metal. I don't write ordered reviews, to write a review i spend creatively for me some time from my life to express my opinion and thankfully enough i'm part of the MS family which gives me the opportunity to publish my ideas and i'm glad for this. Apart from the time that i give to myself to express everything i have to say concerning an album there is a welcome amount of hours of listening in order to form the opinion that becomes structured more and more with every listen of the under-review album. I'm neither a masochist nor a paid killer on a "well-defined objective" for orthodox black metal's sake. Amen.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6120 |
02.09.2011 - 23:00Rating: 7
Written by Vonpire on 02.09.2011 at 22:34
Just a last note and then I'll let all of you discussing the review as you wish.
Just look at the infamous ponderer review of enslaved's AEO and the comments it generated and specially the people involved on it.
Almost everybody didn't agreed with the review (for obvious reasons). I was one of them.
But apparently no one respected his opinion at all! This daniell made a review of the same album. Two different views on same album. Just check the reactions on both. It should be a case study.
You can continue the criticism / insults because I don't agree with this review in any aspect of it. In fact it even appears that it was a ordered review with a well-defined objective...
But I believe it's not and it's the sincere reviewer opinion. Now if I can't disagree and bring my pov on the subject without being constantly insulted, this site is simply dying.
Cry me a river.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15303 |
Written by serega25 on 02.09.2011 at 22:47
Come on, its not a objective rating!:noidea: Why is songwriting only a 6? Here is some really great songs like " The Drowning Age or Elysian Night and The Death Of Hours". I think, that a true rate is 8.7 or 8.8
WEEEEE! OBJECTIVITY!
and as a side note... with nearly 200 votes cast, your average vote is 8.92... so even for YOU this album is "below average" ...
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Vonpire
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03.09.2011 - 00:09Rating: 10
Get a life Daniell
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
03.09.2011 - 00:09Rating: 6
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Vonpire
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03.09.2011 - 00:23Rating: 10
No one can discord. The amazing staff we have here is the law and dont even dare discord. The y'll always find a way to put themselves as the law. They cant be wrong cause their tastes are special and their metal knowledge superior.
Typical.
So is your review objective? Your review sucks, in fact I will say it stinks.
I'll stick with the pros reviews.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Vonpire on 03.09.2011 at 00:23
So is your review objective? Your review sucks, in fact I will say it stinks.
You really have a problem reading, don't you? He said the review is HIS opinion. Just like you have your opinion on the album.
Not a single review in the worlld is objective.
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Vonpire
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03.09.2011 - 00:28Rating: 10
Not going to discuss more.
MY OPINION on his review is that it sucks. Any problem with that chief?
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Merchant of Doom
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Low score... it's a solid album for gothic metal... No, really, much better than the previous one, but it's formulaic and they are milking the cow. Still, a good car CD. I think - because they are Draconian - we are (were) expecting a brilliant album everytime, but, as most bands, they have evolved in a radio-friendly (altough still doomish) act. I even accused Enslaved of turning "commercial" with Axioma But I have no problem with it. Take it or leave it. I stopped expecting anything brilliant from Draconian about 10 years ago. That doesn't mean it's not a pleasant album. If we want to be kvlt, then it's shit... And a review is a review is a review is a review...
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Vonpire on 03.09.2011 at 00:28
Not going to discuss more.
MY OPINION on his review is that it sucks. Any problem with that chief?
No I don't have a problem with you saying that it is not objective.
It is clear once again that you need to retake comprehensive reading 101
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
03.09.2011 - 00:34Rating: 6
@Vonpire: You do have a problem with manners, don't you? And a problem at comprehention. And a bipolar personality maybe since you negate everything you told me a while before. The thing is, i truly am the law, but the law of myself and only.
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