BloodJuNkie Of Egypt
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16.12.2014 - 17:27Rating: 5
I only liked "Now We Die" & "Ghosts Will Haunt My Bones" .. Not a good album didn't enjoy the vocals too... It doesn't deserve more than 6!
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Yeah, this bored the crap outta me. Couldn't even finish it before giving up. Shame cause Unto The Locust was real good.
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boo-boo
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Perfect review, sums up my feelings.
I just cannot understand how this album can be praised in so many magazines and webs and so on, not to mention it's position in most TOP lists issued recently.
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Ilham Giant robot
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17.12.2014 - 11:22Rating: 5
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Written by deadone on 17.12.2014 at 04:56
Good review Ilham.
Totally agree with your conclusions and enjoyed the writing style - I could feel the frustration bursting out. I was contemplating reviewing this one myself but I think you nailed it far better than what
This album fails in terms of catchiness and memorability - both key to good mainstream metal. Some ok songs but overall it's very lacklustre.
And the vocal work is irritating - not only the forced snarls and crooning but the angry breathing.
Personally I keep giving Machine Head a chance with each new album and they keep failing to impress me. And it's not like I'm a die hard zealot - Mastodon have got me back in hook, line and sinker with Once More 'Round The Sun even though I lost interest after Leviathan. Hell I think Once More' Round The Sun is quite possibly my favourite Mastodon album!
But Machine Head keep disappointing. A real shame.
I'll just stick with Burn My Eyes and The More Things Change.
Very flattered dead one, thank you.
I too have a weird history with Mastodon, each album changes what I think of them. But Machine Head have a lack of commitment to the sound they're trying to emulate each time they went for commercial, that it makes the album sound fake, uninspired and unfinished. Not like In Flames that just goes on and owns the choice they made. I haven't listened to much after Soundtrack To Your Escape, but no matter how shitty everyone thinks it is, at least they have the balls to really own the new commercial sound. Shows how much faith I lost in MH .
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Ilham Giant robot
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17.12.2014 - 11:23Rating: 5
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Written by boo-boo on 17.12.2014 at 10:39
Perfect review, sums up my feelings.
I just cannot understand how this album can be praised in so many magazines and webs and so on, not to mention it's position in most TOP lists issued recently.
Yep exactly what I was on about in the beginning. When I see this album in a top XX list, I immediately write it off as crap haha.
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musclassia StaffPosts: 7819 |
17.12.2014 - 11:31Rating: 6
I've actually submitted a review of this that I'm waiting to get through proofreading, which is basically just a slightly nicer version of this. I firmly agree on the forced snarls and regular irritation on the vocals (also the hopeless crooning vocals), and that the first half flows better than the second, and that Game Over is fucking deadful, and that the decent riffs and generally good guitar solos are the strengths of the album. It does honestly sound like a 'Download'-ified version of Machine Head to me (referring to the festival) for want of a better description, in terms of non-threatening yet humorless and self-important anger, that I never really felt with the last couple albums. And this is from someone who loves The Blackening and really likes Unto The Locust, moreso than the early Machine Head albums.
And I thank deadone for bringing up the angry breathing - I left it out of my review because I thought I was just being petty over it but I've never noticed any other band leaving in so much breathing and it's so annoying, especially in those stupid 'rant' sections they keep putting into songs.
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bblitz
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Good review,I kinda felt it the same way.I like how you draw the line with the
most obvious thing and that is nu-metal...Rob Flynn has summoned his demons
from the end of nineties and his 'popular' albums...But its just my opinion.
In general,this album is not good.Unto the locust was something special and they
should stick to that...
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17.12.2014 - 11:35Rating: 6
Written by boo-boo on 17.12.2014 at 10:39
Perfect review, sums up my feelings.
I just cannot understand how this album can be praised in so many magazines and webs and so on, not to mention it's position in most TOP lists issued recently.
The sheer number of top 20 album lists I've seen recently that have basically just been putting various 'hot' bands' latest into a random order with one or two unknown inclusions just to look like they put some effort in has really just shown off to me how terriblly unimaginative and pandering popular metal journalism is; heck compared to most of them I was actually kinda impressed with Rolling Stone including e.g. Old Man Gloom and Yob in their top 4, even if I personally wouldn't include either.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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Production - 7?
Isn't little bit inflated?! Review rating is fine. Record sucked. Machine Head downgraded from medicore "Unto The Locust" and they should now figure out where MH is heading on. By now, they would have seen how much sales has been made and before leave for touring, they should come up with competitive strategies for next record.
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boo-boo
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Written by musclassia on 17.12.2014 at 11:35
Written by boo-boo on 17.12.2014 at 10:39
Perfect review, sums up my feelings.
I just cannot understand how this album can be praised in so many magazines and webs and so on, not to mention it's position in most TOP lists issued recently.
The sheer number of top 20 album lists I've seen recently that have basically just been putting various 'hot' bands' latest into a random order with one or two unknown inclusions just to look like they put some effort in has really just shown off to me how terriblly unimaginative and pandering popular metal journalism is; heck compared to most of them I was actually kinda impressed with Rolling Stone including e.g. Old Man Gloom and Yob in their top 4, even if I personally wouldn't include either.
Precisely, Yob is a fine example. But then there is At the Gates, which seems to appear quite often.
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Written by [user id=142921] on 17.12.2014 at 15:06
My first Machine Head and it was a total snorefest. Here's hoping they can redeem themselves with their earlier work
Just stick with Burn My Eyes. Back when the band didn't have illusions that they were a prog band.
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Darkside Momo Retired ElitePosts: 9096 |
Written by [user id=101272] on 16.12.2014 at 19:58
Yeah, this bored the crap outta me. Couldn't even finish it before giving up. Shame cause Unto The Locust was real good.
well well well... Unto the locust was on the previous one (and indeed a great song on a less-than-average album)
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Yeah, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions when I say this, but I don't think the band ever fully got over their nu metal and more radio friendly years. I enjoyed The Blackening, that I'd say was pretty much their last attempt at recapturing some of the thrash fury from earlier, but Unto The Locust was pretty mellow and dull, and from the sounds of it this one is as well.
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Ilham Giant robot
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17.12.2014 - 16:51Rating: 5
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 17.12.2014 at 16:47
Yeah, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions when I say this, but I don't think the band ever fully got over their nu metal and more radio friendly years. I enjoyed The Blackening, that I'd say was pretty much their last attempt at recapturing some of the thrash fury from earlier, but Unto The Locust was pretty mellow and dull, and from the sounds of it this one is as well.
Indeed. We have a saying in French that goes something like "he changes his mind like he changes his shirt". Machine Head have been known to do that, and I'm sure they won't stop, as the big magazines keep helping them cash on their half-assed attempts at alternative metal.
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Hex_Omega Gem Seeker
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First Machine Head is the best Machine Head. I don't even like The Blackening.
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Written by Ilham on 17.12.2014 at 16:51
Indeed. We have a saying in French that goes something like "he changes his mind like he changes his shirt". Machine Head have been known to do that, and I'm sure they won't stop, as the big magazines keep helping them cash on their half-assed attempts at alternative metal.
Or, as we hardcore ghetto Gs say it: "You can take the nigga out the mainstream, but you can't take the mainstream out the nigga"
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Written by Darkside Momo on 17.12.2014 at 15:21
Written by [user id=101272] on 16.12.2014 at 19:58
Yeah, this bored the crap outta me. Couldn't even finish it before giving up. Shame cause Unto The Locust was real good.
well well well... Unto the locust was on the previous one (and indeed a great song on a less-than-average album)
Boy, did you misinterpret what I said.
I'm saying that the album Unto The Locust was better than this one. And, by the way, the song you're referring to is just called "Locust."
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Traezeus
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I had low expectations for this album based on the single I heard prior to this release. I won't be checking this one out anytime soon.
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UPDIRNS
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I love Machine Head but this album is not good. Just like Burning Red I will not listen to it again. Poor effort on their part. Rob needs to limit his vocals like he did on The Blackening. Let the instruments talk and get aggressive. They are too talented and in their primes. No excuse to lay an egg like this.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
Example No. 2385 why I don't listen to the radio. Perfect review and thanks.
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Rupert
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Do you mean to tell me you've never loved/respected Blink 182?!
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bitethepain
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18.12.2014 - 19:41Rating: 10
I love this album. Best album of the year! Disagree with the review. His vocal style makes the band very unique. I didn't hear any Stone Sour in this album. Not sure what the reviewer is talking about. Also, never understood the 'too long complaint'. Turn it off when your tired with it and return to it another time. Just more to listen to. Never got tired of it myself. All the songs are masterpieces. MAchine Head is one of the best modern metal bands around!
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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18.12.2014 - 20:58Rating: 8
One of the best albums I've listened to this year. Obviously not liked by others here but each to their own.
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Ilham Giant robot
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18.12.2014 - 21:58Rating: 5
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Written by bitethepain on 18.12.2014 at 19:41
I love this album. Best album of the year! Disagree with the review. His vocal style makes the band very unique. I didn't hear any Stone Sour in this album. Not sure what the reviewer is talking about. Also, never understood the 'too long complaint'. Turn it off when your tired with it and return to it another time. Just more to listen to. Never got tired of it myself. All the songs are masterpieces. MAchine Head is one of the best modern metal bands around!
Well there is a lot in that post I won't reply to because it's your opinion and I respect that. But:
1- Play "Through Glass" by Stone Sour and tell me Robb's crooner bit on Sail Into The Black doesn't sound exactly like Taylor's (released almost ten years ago, shows as well how "'unique" this singing is). Even the tougher songs on this album take on a LOT of Slipknot and Stone Sour's DNA. Maybe you're not familiar enough with the two bands, but I am.
2-"The too long complaint": An album is recorded and sold as a whole. You paid for 12 songs, and if the twelve songs are too bloated and you can't get to the end, you can't just say "oh just press stop". No, an album is judged in it whole and should be played in its whole. It's not the listener's fault if the guy who wrote it didn't make it easy for the guy who bought it to stay focused until the end. MH doesn't know how to write short and efficient songs, and it's not my job to deal with it, pretend there's not 30 minutes left on that album and press stop.
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Ilham Giant robot
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18.12.2014 - 22:00Rating: 5
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Written by Rupert on 18.12.2014 at 19:32
Do you mean to tell me you've never loved/respected Blink 182?!
Haha, I knew someone would see the joke .
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bitethepain
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19.12.2014 - 00:42Rating: 10
Written by Ilham on 18.12.2014 at 21:58
Written by bitethepain on 18.12.2014 at 19:41
I love this album. Best album of the year! Disagree with the review. His vocal style makes the band very unique. I didn't hear any Stone Sour in this album. Not sure what the reviewer is talking about. Also, never understood the 'too long complaint'. Turn it off when your tired with it and return to it another time. Just more to listen to. Never got tired of it myself. All the songs are masterpieces. MAchine Head is one of the best modern metal bands around!
Well there is a lot in that post I won't reply to because it's your opinion and I respect that. But:
1- Play "Through Glass" by Stone Sour and tell me Robb's crooner bit on Sail Into The Black doesn't sound exactly like Taylor's (released almost ten years ago, shows as well how "'unique" this singing is). Even the tougher songs on this album take on a LOT of Slipknot and Stone Sour's DNA. Maybe you're not familiar enough with the two bands, but I am.
2-"The too long complaint": An album is recorded and sold as a whole. You paid for 12 songs, and if the twelve songs are too bloated and you can't get to the end, you can't just say "oh just press stop". No, an album is judged in it whole and should be played in its whole. It's not the listener's fault if the guy who wrote it didn't make it easy for the guy who bought it to stay focused until the end. MH doesn't know how to write short and efficient songs, and it's not my job to deal with it, pretend there's not 30 minutes left on that album and press stop.
I have not listened to Stone Sour and Slipknot in a while. I am familiar with them, but I still didn't hear anything resembling them in the new MH album.
I don't have the song to listen to, but it doesn't bother me it it does sound similar. I've always liked what I heard from Stone Sour anyways.
I have total different opinion on long songs and long albums. I love them, if they're interesting. The new MH album kept my attention throughout and I had no problem with its length. I happen to get bored with "short" songs and "efficient" albums that are too simple and "easy" to get into. I prefer to be challenged and that is exactly what the new MH album did. I couldn't predict where the songs were going or what the next song was going to be like.
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Ilham Giant robot
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19.12.2014 - 00:55Rating: 5
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Written by bitethepain on 19.12.2014 at 00:42
I have not listened to Stone Sour and Slipknot in a while. I am familiar with them, but I still didn't hear anything resembling them in the new MH album.
I don't have the song to listen to, but it doesn't bother me it it does sound similar. I've always liked what I heard from Stone Sour anyways.
I have total different opinion on long songs and long albums. I love them, if they're interesting. The new MH album kept my attention throughout and I had no problem with its length. I happen to get bored with "short" songs and "efficient" albums that are too simple and "easy" to get into. I prefer to be challenged and that is exactly what the new MH album did. I couldn't predict where the songs were going or what the next song was going to be like.
Okay I thought you took the comparison to Stone Sour the wrong way. Fair enough.
I have no problem with long albums with long, complex and demanding songs. My latest favourite is exactly that. I just think that there is a certain length that goes the best with some types of songs. I actually found them to be too long and too repetitive, just maybe more to hide the simplistic nature of them than anything else. They're basically bloated, toughened-up pop songs with a solo towards the end. And there's a reason why pop songs are the most efficient when they're between 3 and 4 minutes and a half. But more than just that, I just see no logical flow in the album, I find the order of the songs was almost chosen at random. After many plays, I was still not able to find where I were in the album if I didn't look at the player.
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22.12.2014 - 09:12Rating: 6
Agreed Great review Ilham i did like the first album my self but as i listened to this i thought why is it so regular and ok its like u have a great musicians in a jam session that only like to cover other song or they are bad in improvising
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