Written by Italics on 18.05.2009 at 06:45

Katatonia's best work to date IMO. I don't know what it is about the album, but it puts me to sleep (in a good way!)

Written by [user id=107773] on 19.02.2011 at 01:51

Didn't really like it...maybe a few more listens...

Written by InnerSelf on 19.02.2011 at 02:15

Written by [user id=107773] on 19.02.2011 at 01:51

Didn't really like it...maybe a few more listens...

You should, because I did not like it at the first couple of listens
it is strange actually because you would think that this is an easy album to get into but it is not , probably because it's variation

Written by [user id=107773] on 19.02.2011 at 02:41

Written by InnerSelf on 19.02.2011 at 02:15

Written by [user id=107773] on 19.02.2011 at 01:51

Didn't really like it...maybe a few more listens...

You should, because I did not like it at the first couple of listens
it is strange actually because you would think that this is an easy album to get into but it is not , probably because it's variation

Not only that, I haven't really heard much of their old stuff, not enough to understand the change in direction/appreciate it.

Written by InnerSelf on 19.02.2011 at 02:15


it is strange actually because you would think that this is an easy album to get into but it is not , probably because it's variation

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.02.2011 at 13:37

Written by InnerSelf on 19.02.2011 at 02:15


it is strange actually because you would think that this is an easy album to get into but it is not , probably because it's variation

weird. I found it an extremely easy album to get into. Actually their easiest to get into for me.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.02.2011 at 22:49

@innerself for me it is also their best of their post Brave Murder Day era and strangely enough I fully appreciated it upon first listen whereas the others took longer and the last two I still find their worst and most boring by far.

Written by [user id=4365] on 21.02.2011 at 15:49

Yeah I've listened to Tonight's Decision and Last Fair deal a lot over the years and I've never really been all that into them, they are quite clumsy in terms of songwriting and the Renkse's vocals are seriously undeveloped. Though I didn't like the last two albums very much for a long time I've learned to see that they're actually pretty good records and it may or may not be the result of studio tweaking and polish but the vocals are much improved.

Written by InnerSelf on 20.02.2011 at 13:46

I think their worst is Tonight's Decision the vocals were horrible and the music was very boring , but the latest two were pretty solid especially The Great Cold Distance

Written by Slayer666 on 22.02.2011 at 15:55

Written by [user id=4365] on 21.02.2011 at 15:49

Yeah I've listened to Tonight's Decision and Last Fair deal a lot over the years and I've never really been all that into them, they are quite clumsy in terms of songwriting and the Renkse's vocals are seriously undeveloped. Though I didn't like the last two albums very much for a long time I've learned to see that they're actually pretty good records and it may or may not be the result of studio tweaking and polish but the vocals are much improved.

What does "clumsy in terms of songwriting" mean? I don't understand what you meant to say by this, please explain.

Written by [user id=4365] on 22.02.2011 at 16:13

Written by Slayer666 on 22.02.2011 at 15:55

Written by [user id=4365] on 21.02.2011 at 15:49

Yeah I've listened to Tonight's Decision and Last Fair deal a lot over the years and I've never really been all that into them, they are quite clumsy in terms of songwriting and the Renkse's vocals are seriously undeveloped. Though I didn't like the last two albums very much for a long time I've learned to see that they're actually pretty good records and it may or may not be the result of studio tweaking and polish but the vocals are much improved.

What does "clumsy in terms of songwriting" mean? I don't understand what you meant to say by this, please explain.

That it isn't very effective i.e. the songs aren't very good because they were treated with clumsy songwriting approach and have awkward elements which in the end doesn't sound all that great, parts of songs sound forced and unnatural too.

Written by Slayer666 on 22.02.2011 at 16:22


Hmm... As I've stated countless times, this I do not agree with. TD surely isn't as tight and well-polished as Viva or The Great Cold Distance, but it has a soul, it has emotion. While listening to TD, I can clearly picture the whole setup: murky, stormy weather, a man sad to leave his town, etc. (don't want to get too emotional here ). When listening to Viva, the only thing I can picture is a couple of guys in the studio, trying to make a record that will sell good.

Written by [user id=4365] on 22.02.2011 at 16:29

Written by Slayer666 on 22.02.2011 at 16:22


Hmm... As I've stated countless times, this I do not agree with. TD surely isn't as tight and well-polished as Viva or The Great Cold Distance, but it has a soul, it has emotion. While listening to TD, I can clearly picture the whole setup: murky, stormy weather, a man sad to leave his town, etc. (don't want to get too emotional here ). When listening to Viva, the only thing I can picture is a couple of guys in the studio, trying to make a record that will sell good.

That's "sell well" ;]

I've tried the two records prior to this one numerous times over the past 6 or so years and they've never gelled with me. They have good songs but they also have some rather poor ones. Viva represents the band at a comfortable level of craftmanship and style; they knew what they were doing on this one.