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Ok, the review sounds like they've brought down the black essence even more. Have to check this out to decide as I didn't find the last record as good as their debut.
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I have a feeling I'm going to disagree with you. I found Kosmonument to be a step down from their debut, and from what I've heard of the new new tracks it's a much better sound for them. Apparently they're releasing a full stream of the album today so I will listen.
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Written by 3rdWorld on 04.10.2013 at 09:23
Ok, the review sounds like they've brought down the black essence even more.
Well that kinda depends upon the person... like how prevalent do such black elements have to be for you to judge? I mean it's nothing like blast beats and extreme tremolo picking of course, but there are definitely some more upbeat passages here and there with riffs that do indeed sound quite black metal-ish, at least to my ears.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 04.10.2013 at 14:24
I have a feeling I'm going to disagree with you. I found Kosmonument to be a step down from their debut, and from what I've heard of the new new tracks it's a much better sound for them.
Indeed, I still consider Kosmonument their best
I might be a little biased as a bassist, because the bass for that album was just incredible. But even aside from that, like I kind of hinted at in this review, I think it really just had a very dark and haunting style that they haven't yet matched with anything else. Also their best effects-wise, imo, the keyboards and synths on the debut and on Valonielu aren't nearly as multi-layered as they were on Kosmonument.
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From what I've heard of the 2 tracks available on youtube yesterday, it's more of a straightforward sound. I'll have to listen to the whole thing when I get the chance.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 04.10.2013 at 15:06
Written by [user id=4365] on 04.10.2013 at 14:24
I have a feeling I'm going to disagree with you. I found Kosmonument to be a step down from their debut, and from what I've heard of the new new tracks it's a much better sound for them.
Indeed, I still consider Kosmonument their best
I might be a little biased as a bassist, because the bass for that album was just incredible. But even aside from that, like I kind of hinted at in this review, I think it really just had a very dark and haunting style that they haven't yet matched with anything else. Also their best effects-wise, imo, the keyboards and synths on the debut and on Valonielu aren't nearly as multi-layered as they were on Kosmonument.
Well, the thing I loved the most about these guys was the bass (I won't call myself a bassist because I need to start playing again to say that with confidence!) but I prefer their debut and its basslines than the ones found in Kosmonument. So yeah , I'm probably going to disagree as well. Heh.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 04.10.2013 at 19:05
I prefer their debut and its basslines than the ones found in Kosmonument
It's definitely highly debatable as to which is better bass-wise, especially considering this.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
05.10.2013 - 21:42Rating: 9
Having listened to it only once I can't pass judgment, but it seems to be a very solid release. My gut feeling tells me it won't be better than Kosmonument though.
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Monolithic ♠♠♠
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06.10.2013 - 09:59Rating: 9
The album caught me by surprise. Not only it sounds bizarre, but it also sounds rather unpredictable. Absolutely amazed by the music, the bass and the riffs.
Great review.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
06.10.2013 - 11:52Rating: 9
After repeatd listens I'm pretty sure this album will land in my top 10 of the year. Brilliant stuff. Excellent production too.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Daniell on 05.10.2013 at 21:42
Having listened to it only once I can't pass judgment, but it seems to be a very solid release. My gut feeling tells me it won't be better than Kosmonument though.
It isn't, in my opinion, but that's not to say that it isn't still an excellent release. Definitely in the top 10 for this year, I agree with you.
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06.10.2013 - 17:41Rating: 9
The last track is a straight 10/10.
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Written by Daniell on 06.10.2013 at 17:41
The last track is a straight 10/10.
The last two for me. Definitely the highlights.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 06.10.2013 at 17:41
The last two for me. Definitely the highlights.
They've always had a habit for knowing how to end their albums on a good note. Uraanisula is probably my favorite though, at least for now
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3rdWorld China was a neat
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I found myself liking this instantly in the first listen and found more engaging than their last record. Maybe I have to go back and find out why i didn't get hooked to Kosmonument in the first spin cuz i enjoyed the debut very much, maybe the last one was too avant and lacking in "metal" parts. I don't know, except the first track I dont remember any song from it.
P.S: Read the above posts, Uraanisula and the closing were indeed amazing.
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Written by 3rdWorld on 06.10.2013 at 20:27
Maybe I have to go back and find out why i didn't get hooked to Kosmonument in the first spin
Indeed you should, "Maavaltimo" and "Kaaos Hallitsee" are amazing, at least in my opinion
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 06.10.2013 at 20:36
Indeed you should, "Maavaltimo" and "Kaaos Hallitsee" are amazing, at least in my opinion
For sure I will but atm I think I'll just stick with Valonielu as this is just too good and my guess is that this is surely gonna be better received and acclaimed than their last record, seeing as it got a overall rating of below 8 here in MS from the hordes.
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Written by 3rdWorld on 06.10.2013 at 20:46
For sure I will but atm I think I'll just stick with Valonielu as this is just too good and my guess is that this is surely gonna be better received and acclaimed than their last record, seeing as it got a overall rating of below 8 here in MS from the hordes.
I would say that it getting lower than that surprises me, but that could just be the result of some kvlt purists purposefully downvoting it because "it's not black metal enough"
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 06.10.2013 at 21:00
I would say that it getting lower than that surprises me, but that could just be the result of some kvlt purists purposefully downvoting it because "it's not black metal enough"
Definitely was not easily enjoyable and more interesting record that one (atleast from what I remember ), which really intrigues me now to go back to it as I think it will be challenging and an even more acquired listening than this one. Yes maybe that's why it has such a low score from the mass voters.
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Hmmmm I agree with most things said, but maybe being a less positive with each aspect. I'm so dissapointed there is nothing else like Olen Aukaissut Uuden Silmän in the album
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Written by Vombatus on 06.10.2013 at 23:14
I'm so dissapointed there is nothing else like Olen Aukaissut Uuden Silmän in the album
That can sometimes be the beauty of the music though, in my opinion. I wouldn't want an album where all the tracks sound the same and it's hard to differentiate between them. But that's just me I guess.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 06.10.2013 at 21:00
I would say that it getting lower than that surprises me, but that could just be the result of some kvlt purists purposefully downvoting it because "it's not black metal enough"
These people still exist?
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Written by SmokyPeat on 07.10.2013 at 17:57
These people still exist?
The kvlt purists perhaps not as much as in the past, but there are definitely still vote abusers on the site. We had to ban two people just the other day.
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I caught myself thinking that black metal purists are a thing of the early/mid 2000s but there are surely still some scattered about haha. Just curious as to how the staff goes about banning people who are considered down voters on the site? Do you apply the same rules to "up" voters? To me it's purely subjective.
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Written by SmokyPeat on 07.10.2013 at 20:45
I caught myself thinking that black metal purists are a thing of the early/mid 2000s but there are surely still some scattered about haha. Just curious as to how the staff goes about banning people who are considered down voters on the site? Do you apply the same rules to "up" voters? To me it's purely subjective.
Black metal elitists are definitely still around, their presence is just really subtle though. But you can still feel the influence, like I tend to notice that usually with very experimental black metal bands that have gotten increasingly weird over their discography, the albums that are more BM often have higher ratings on here. As far as the voting thing... pretty much, just anyone who you can noticeably tell has been overvoting/undervoting albums on purpose. It's usually pretty obvious if they have. I don't know the actual process the Staff though, that's not really in my area.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 07.10.2013 at 06:04
That can sometimes be the beauty of the music though, in my opinion. I wouldn't want an album where all the tracks sound the same and it's hard to differentiate between them. But that's just me I guess.
As with everything, it depends. Sometimes if tracks are homogenous, the cohesion can be really positive, like the case of a lot of Heavy or thrash metal albums.
But hmmmmmm, with experimental/avantgarde stuff it wouldn't be the case.... Maybe I just didn't listen the album enough. Olen struck me as monumental track that really stood out from the rest. It had a certain mood that the others lacked (like more dynamic and the tempo changes absolutely blew my mind, something that wasn't the case with, say, the ending of Uraanisula after an excellent first half).
Also, the riff on Vine Verso gets a bit tedious with all the repetition through the whole song (probably coz I don't find it thaaat good to start with). Quite the same to a lesser extend with Tyhjä Temppeli. The keys are also not that spectacular... like... just there (and the ambient track is hmmmm meh or uninteresting). I think it's more of the quality of the music itself (specially the riffs) than wanting the other songs to copy the same formula.... It's still a solid album, but just not on the same level as the predecessors
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