NorthernDickhead
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What's wrong about originality?
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5927 |
20.10.2013 - 11:21Rating: 8
There is nothing "wrong," per se, it's just that Motörhead don't exactly push their own boundaries. They have been making the same album for years now, but it's a good album, so it isn't a terribly great problem.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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The only thing that can make Motorhead good even though they release the same old formula, is the song-writing. Expecting originality from them is like expecting Cannibal Corpse to something else other than their own signature death metal sound.
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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Written by NorthernDickhead on 20.10.2013 at 10:03
What's wrong about originality?
The fact that Motörhead has been releasing the same album for over 25 years.
Seriously though, I don't know how you gave it an eight, all they do is regurgitate album after album.
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 20.10.2013 at 17:55
Written by NorthernDickhead on 20.10.2013 at 10:03
What's wrong about originality?
The fact that Motörhead has been releasing the same album for over 25 years.
Seriously though, I don't know how you gave it an eight, all they do is regurgitate album after album.
So do Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation, Sodom, AC/DC, Deicide, Overkill, Running Wild, Rush, Slayer, Testament, Deep Purple, Entombed, Amon Amarth... etc.
Need I go on?
And we already know that Motorhead (or even Aftershock) is already better than half the albums or half the bands I just mentioned. The point is: If it's better in quality than The World Is Yours, than that's all I need.
If it ain't broke, why fix it?
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NorthernDickhead
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Written by [user id=101272] on 20.10.2013 at 18:02
Written by Boxcar Willy on 20.10.2013 at 17:55
Written by NorthernDickhead on 20.10.2013 at 10:03
What's wrong about originality?
The fact that Motörhead has been releasing the same album for over 25 years.
Seriously though, I don't know how you gave it an eight, all they do is regurgitate album after album.
So do Cannibal Corpse, DragonForce, Suffocation, Sodom, AC/DC, Deicide, Overkill, Running Wild, Rush, Slayer, Testament, Deep Purple, Entombed, Amon Amarth, In Flames... etc.
And we already know that Motorhead (or even Aftershock) is already better than half the albums or half the bands I just mentioned.
If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Who think that In Flames release always same album? I haven't heard any Motörhead album,but their ratings are pretty high. If they release same album year by year,and albums are good,don't need to mutate...
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Lord_Regnier
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Written by [user id=101272] on 20.10.2013 at 18:02
Written by Boxcar Willy on 20.10.2013 at 17:55
Written by NorthernDickhead on 20.10.2013 at 10:03
What's wrong about originality?
The fact that Motörhead has been releasing the same album for over 25 years.
So do Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation, Sodom, AC/DC, Deicide, Overkill, Running Wild, Rush, Slayer, Testament, Deep Purple, Entombed, Amon Amarth... etc.
I would say ALMOST (not all) old bands reach a point when they basically release the same album over and over with pretty much zero originality. It's especially true for old classic Heavy Metal bands.
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Uldreth
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Written by [user id=101272] on 20.10.2013 at 18:02
Written by Boxcar Willy on 20.10.2013 at 17:55
Written by NorthernDickhead on 20.10.2013 at 10:03
What's wrong about originality?
The fact that Motörhead has been releasing the same album for over 25 years.
Seriously though, I don't know how you gave it an eight, all they do is regurgitate album after album.
So do Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation, Sodom, AC/DC, Deicide, Overkill, Running Wild, Rush, Slayer, Testament, Deep Purple, Entombed, Amon Amarth... etc.
Need I go on?
And we already know that Motorhead (or even Aftershock) is already better than half the albums or half the bands I just mentioned. The point is: If it's better in quality than The World Is Yours, than that's all I need.
If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Assuming what you say is true, it is besides the point. The originality rating in the review judges originality, not the "goodness" of the album. That is the final rating. So even if this is a good album (which I don't know, I don't intend to check this out) if it does sound like everything else they did in the last 25 years then that rating should definitely take a massive dive.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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20.10.2013 - 22:37Rating: 7
I don't why but subconsciously i think "Aftershock" will get the same reactions when "World Painted Blood" dropped back in 09.
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3rdWorld China was a neat
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Originality is overrated. I like this album btw.
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser StaffPosts: 9718 |
21.10.2013 - 20:51Rating: 7
Doc G.Full Grown HoserStaffPosts: 9718
Written by Boxcar Willy on 20.10.2013 at 17:55
The fact that Motörhead has been releasing the same album for over 25 years.
Seriously though, I don't know how you gave it an eight, all they do is regurgitate album after album.
Inferno and Kiss Of Death showed Motorhead branching out without dropping the signature Motorhead sound, that was the best two-album run they had since the "classic" days. Looking at their catalogue, you'll see they go through a cycle of quality to their albums, despite sounding alike. They've been on sort of a down cycle for the past two albums, but the hope of hearing something along the lines of Inferno always keeps me interested. So I wouldn't exactly say they regurgitate the same thing album after album.
That being said, the last 2 albums left me a little unexcited about this one. @ScreamingSteelUS: How does this compare to "The World Is Yours"? Because I was thoroughly bored with that one right off the bat, but other people were of the opinion it was another solid Motorhead release...
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M C Vice ex-polydactyl
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23.10.2013 - 11:03Rating: 7
Lemmy sounding old? Lemmy sounded old when he was three. Agree with the originality thing (haven't got this one yet though). Only two Motorhead albums don't sound like the others.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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23.10.2013 - 17:40Rating: 7
It's a good record, not brilliant enough to get more than 8. I'd find couple of tracks("Queen of the damned" "Crying Shame" "Going To Mexico") appealing and very fresh.
best track "Paralyzed".
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5927 |
23.10.2013 - 18:19Rating: 8
Written by Doc G. on 21.10.2013 at 20:51
@ScreamingSteelUS: How does this compare to "The World Is Yours"? Because I was thoroughly bored with that one right off the bat, but other people were of the opinion it was another solid Motorhead release...
"Aftershock" is a step up, at least. I enjoyed "The World Is Yours," but it was pretty generic even by Motörhead standards. "Aftershock" is still fairly generic, but it has more standout material and as a general rule is of a better quality, I think.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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"Aftershock" is definitely a better album than "The World Is Yours", which a couple of tracks aside, was a dull and lifeless album. There's nothing groundbreaking on "Aftershock" no, but seeing as there's zero originality in at least 95% of the metal/rock that's being pedalled today, it's not something I'd hold against the band. True originality in music is becoming rarer and rarer as time is progressing, as it's more difficult than ever before to be truly original in today's musical climate.
"The World Is Yours" was one of Motorhead's worst albums, whereas this new one neither stands out as one of the band's best or worst albums. The best thing about "Aftershock" is there is not a bad song to be found on it, not once did I feel like skipping a song as I listened, so it's a very consistent, and enjoyable album all the way through.
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Lord_Regnier
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Written by Angelic Storm on 23.10.2013 at 21:06
there's zero originality in at least 95% of the metal/rock that's being pedalled today, it's not something I'd hold against the band. True originality in music is becoming rarer and rarer as time is progressing, as it's more difficult than ever before to be truly original in today's musical climate.
It is nearly impossible to be really original today, as far as Metal music goes. Even in more 'evolved' genres (sorry to use this word for lack of a better one, it's not an elitist attitude on my part and I don't want to imply that genres like Black Metal, Death Metal, Thrash, Powermetal etc are superior to Heavy Metal or Rock music in general), where there is often more complexity in structures, tempos, technicality so, Imo, more room for experimentation and variation, pretty much everything has been tried and done already. Many things have been done countless times already in more extreme Metal genres and those genres struggle to bring any originality and renew themselves. And I believe it will not improve but only get worse, as far as originality goes.
And this is why I think originality is greatly overrated these days. As far as an album fits my tastes very well, as long as I find the music enjoyable, I don't care if it's original or not.
What I dislike in general in Metal is when it is over-simplistic. I might be wrong to do that but I consider simplicity and easy-to-play music as an indication of a certain level of mediocrity in some cases. But even that has its own limits. Sometimes, I can enjoy simple music even if my tastes lean more towards something a bit more complex and sometimes I find very technical stuff utterly boring. So, while I believe that more complex song structures, variations in tempo, technicality and experimentation all can help to create interesting and enjoyable music, they're not an insurance of quality and should not be seen as the end of it all.
I think the key resides in well-composed songs that can give you a feeling of 'escaping reality' and provide genuine emotion to the listener, no matter the level of complexity. For me, a certain level of complexity usually helps me feeling involved in the music and helps keeping my attention and interest. I guess for other people, simplicity can help to achieve the same.
Imo, music doesn't need to be original, as long as it fits your own tastes and gives you enjoyment.
P.S. I hope this post is not confusing. I did my best but explaining all this in a way that I hope is clear was not easy.
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CrossIv
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I like this "lack of originality".. i found it interesting because they dont need to change that much for being loved. I'm in love with Motörhead and the way it sounds in every album.
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Dani5050
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28.10.2013 - 18:04Rating: 8
I don't care about originality , I like it period.
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theFIST
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Written by CrossIv on 27.10.2013 at 22:15
the way it sounds in every album
there are few bands for which that statement is as true as for Motörhead
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A very good album. Enjoy it a lot. There's gold on Aftershock!
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Darth Revan
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It's funny that Motorhead has become so formulaic that writing reviews about their new releases has become a formula in and of itself. But there's nothing wrong with that... Lemme's getting old, I wouldn't be surprised if he up and retired soon enough. But so far as he's enjoying what he's doing, and releasing quality formulaic work, more power to him.
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Timelord
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Bands that have managed to achieve longevity can take 1 of 2 paths:
Continue to release albums every few years running the creativity well dry to the point where it all starts sounding the same(tired forced generic metal). Even for the best it is extremely difficult to write even average songs for that long a period.
The second way is to take an extended break giving the batteries time to charge up fully. Writing comes from life experiences and if you don't allow any time between then everything becomes stale. Exodus: Tempo of the Damned,Immortal:All Shall Fall are good examples. Money Grabs like Black Sabbath:13 (the title and the fact Bill Ward was smart enough to see it as just that) or any Kiss release excluded.
In today's market of endless festivals vs lack of normal touring. Releasing 2-3 new songs that could make into the setlist without losing fan favorites would be ideal. To many albums of any band can result in deliberate style or "experimental" changes (Kreator,Megadeth) fans reject and make them not so keen to buy any future releases.
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