Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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22.05.2014 - 17:25Rating: 6
I didn't feel the spark in this album. You inflated score on the basis of fanboyism but I still feel it wasn't GOOD AT ALL taking every aspect in this consideration. Pervetor was phenomenal but yet comparing with this will be out of the edge. This record has its own "playing" but very stripped off music it came out to be. Yes, I'm against this review. My score will stuck at 6.5.
Great band. Awesome music they created but this record is hellish letdown.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Felt more or less the same when I first heard this, although I wouldn't call anything Lord Mantis have released a masterpiece. I'd probably score it a few decimal points lower but it's still a serviceable album.
Nice to see Cynic maintaining his typical level-headedness when disagreeing with a reviewer's score.
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Rupert
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Ahh I remember that album art.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.05.2014 at 17:57
... although I wouldn't call anything Lord Mantis have released a masterpiece. ...
Totally agreed. Pervertor was a good album but far removed from being a masterpiece.
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Nice to see Cynic maintaining his typical level-headedness when disagreeing with a reviewer's score.
I never thought I would see day that the name Cynic and the word 'level-headedness' would be mentioned in the same sentence. What's nect? You saying all of Cynic's posts make total sense?
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To be honest as decent as this is I'm not sure I'll ever find myself listening to it again. The debut and sophomore are leagues ahead, and there's just not really the need for this one in my life. A shame, but I'm sure many people will enjoy it.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 22.05.2014 at 17:25
You inflated score on the basis of fanboyism
I don't even know how to begin to respond to such a silly comment. You can appreciate a band for trying a new formula and still being fairly good at it without being a fanboy.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.05.2014 at 17:57
I wouldn't call anything Lord Mantis have released a masterpiece
Yes, that's the magic word that gets people debating over what exactly it means with all of their subjective opinions, because it is a subjective definition. All I meant by that comment was that it set the bar pretty high for the style of blackened sludge, and the mark is going to be pretty hard to top.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.05.2014 at 18:26
Pervertor was a good album but far removed from being a masterpiece.
Right back at you in regards to Watching From A Distance
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Written by Rupert on 22.05.2014 at 18:11
Ahh I remember that album art.
Probably the only thing I remember about my first listen to it, sadly. This is definitely a far cry from the great Pervertor.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.05.2014 at 18:26 I never thought I would see day that the name Cynic and the word 'level-headedness' would be mentioned in the same sentence. What's nect? You saying all of Cynic's posts make total sense?
I thought it was obvious that I was being sarcastic.
As for calling this a masterpiece Che, if you know such a subjective term is bound to incite argument or disagreement, why bother using it in the first place? At least contextualize it a little (a masterpiece within the blackened sludge scene or something, similar to how that Warning album is regarded as a masterpiece by the majority of those who listen to doom).
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.05.2014 at 21:36
As for calling this a masterpiece Che, if you know such a subjective term is bound to incite argument or disagreement, why bother using it in the first place? At least contextualize it a little (a masterpiece within the blackened sludge scene or something, similar to how that Warning album is regarded as a masterpiece by the majority of those who listen to doom).
Maybe because I want to? That's kinda flawed logic if you ask me, you're basically saying not to say something if you know it's going to be controversial. I don't censor what I say like that. I called it a masterpiece because I think it is, and I would think it'd be a least a little obvious that I'm referring to it as one within the style from which it originates, not the entire metal genre as a whole.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.05.2014 at 21:36
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.05.2014 at 18:26 I never thought I would see day that the name Cynic and the word 'level-headedness' would be mentioned in the same sentence. What's nect? You saying all of Cynic's posts make total sense?
I thought it was obvious that I was being sarcastic.
Of course I knew you were. But because the guy is such immense moron, even surpassing K7, I wanted to rub it in ;-)
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Introspekrieg Totemic Lust ElitePosts: 2749 |
23.05.2014 - 01:23Rating: 7
I really like "Coil". That is all.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Introspekrieg on 23.05.2014 at 01:23
I really like "Coil". That is all.
Hmmm, interesting you pick that one. I've heard a lot of people complaining about the vocals on that track.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.05.2014 at 00:03 Maybe because I want to? That's kinda flawed logic if you ask me, you're basically saying not to say something if you know it's going to be controversial. I don't censor what I say like that. I called it a masterpiece because I think it is, and I would think it'd be a least a little obvious that I'm referring to it as one within the style from which it originates, not the entire metal genre as a whole.
Far be it from me to suggest how you review, I was just trying to point out that introducing a reader to your review by calling something a masterpiece (especially when it comes to something as unmiraculous as a black and sludge metal hybrid band) is bound to take the focus off the rest of the review because it's such a strong statement, it distracts from the rest of the words that follow. I don't see how that can be considered censorship or flawed logic, and I also don't see how it's obvious that you implied it was a masterpiece within the genre in particular considering your opening line.
But like I said, I'm not here to try and dictate how reviewers write. Consider it constructive criticism that might potentially help with balancing your subjectivity with diplomacy as it were.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.05.2014 at 02:41
Far be it from me to suggest how you review, I was just trying to point out that introducing a reader to your review by calling something a masterpiece (especially when it comes to something as unmiraculous as a black and sludge metal hybrid band) is bound to take the focus off the rest of the review because it's such a strong statement, it distracts from the rest of the words that follow. I don't see how that can be considered censorship or flawed logic, and I also don't see how it's obvious that you implied it was a masterpiece within the genre in particular considering your opening line.
Advice taken, if not with a slight grain of salt
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 22.05.2014 at 19:04
Right back at you in regards to Watching From A Distance
I guess you just lost a place to sleep next year during Roadburn. For the record, Watching From a Distance is surely 9-9.5 material for me.
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Erik M.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.05.2014 at 00:03
I called it a masterpiece because I think it is, and I would think it'd be a least a little obvious that I'm referring to it as one within the style from which it originates, not the entire metal genre as a whole.
Well, if it's a masterpiece in a certain style, say, doom metal, then it's still a metal masterpiece and a masterpiece in music in general. I know what you mean by this, but it's just an odd statement (as was Troy's by the way).
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Erik M. on 23.05.2014 at 16:53
I guess you just lost a place to sleep next year during Roadburn. For the record, Watching From a Distance is surely 9-9.5 material for me.
Something about Patrick Walker's vocals have just never done it for me. Far too whiny and "aaaaaaaahaaaaahaaaaah" for my tastes
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Erik M.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.05.2014 at 17:13
Something about Patrick Walker's vocals have just never done it for me. Far too whiny and "aaaaaaaahaaaaahaaaaah" for my tastes
Didn't like his vocals initially either, but they really grew on me. Those "aaahaaahaaah" parts are actually great, especially that part in Bridges.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.05.2014 at 17:13 Something about Patrick Walker's vocals have just never done it for me. Far too whiny and "aaaaaaaahaaaaahaaaaah" for my tastes
...You bastard. D:
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Back on-topic, please.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.05.2014 at 18:16
Back on-topic, please.
You disagreed with my opinion, so NO!!!
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.05.2014 at 18:58
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.05.2014 at 18:16
Back on-topic, please.
You disagreed with my opinion, so NO!!!
I have modding powers. So, you'd better listen to me or you want to be banned?
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.05.2014 at 19:07
I have modding powers. So, you'd better listen to me or you want to be banned?
I would love to be band, just find me a drummer and a guitarist please
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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24.05.2014 - 19:25Rating: 6
This could be the most derailed thread we've had in awhile.
On Topic, I probably won't listen to this.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 24.05.2014 at 19:25
This could be the most derailed thread we've had in awhile.
On Topic, I probably won't listen to this.
Off topic, I probably won't listen to the next Deafheaven
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by deadone on 26.05.2014 at 02:15
Written by Boxcar Willy on 24.05.2014 at 19:25
On Topic, I probably won't listen to this.
Neither will I - the whole concept of Blackened Sludge sounds like it would an absolute mess and not in a good way.
How so? If two genres could merge well in certainly would be sludge and black due to the nastiness of both in their original forms.
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Black metal and sludge: cheese and pickle of metal. Rarely are two subgenres better suited to each other.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by deadone on 26.05.2014 at 03:05
And I hate Black Metal (other than a few symphonic BM bands).
Well then I now declare a blood feud upon thee that shalt not be resolved until the days of Ragnarok
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I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
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