RaduP CertifiedHipster StaffPosts: 9133 |
12.08.2020 - 13:10Rating: 7
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DarkWingedSoul
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12.08.2020 - 15:35Rating: 8
I like them....
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
12.08.2020 - 16:16Rating: 6
Written by RaduP on 12.08.2020 at 13:10
I applaud you for managing to write a Sojourner review without mentioning Summoning once.
I took a gander at some reviews and comments and literally everybody drops the Summoning name like it's obligatory, so I specifically avoided doing so. Thanks for noticing 😌
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
12.08.2020 - 16:16Rating: 6
Written by DarkWingedSoul on 12.08.2020 at 15:35
I like them....
Do you love them though
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DarkWingedSoul
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12.08.2020 - 17:50Rating: 8
...my love is for darker things...
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DonMoenning
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12.08.2020 - 21:41Rating: 10
Odd assessment. Pretty high quality album and praised mostly everywhere. I love it. I think there is just as much doom/death as there is atmoblack. Does a very nice job creating weighty songs with memorable melodies and a fantastic atmosphere. They haven't been "black metal" for some time, so weird to see your review framed around that sentiment.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
13.08.2020 - 00:33Rating: 6
Written by DonMoenning on 12.08.2020 at 21:41
Odd assessment. Pretty high quality album and praised mostly everywhere. I love it. I think there is just as much doom/death as there is atmoblack. Does a very nice job creating weighty songs with memorable melodies and a fantastic atmosphere. They haven't been "black metal" for some time, so weird to see your review framed around that sentiment.
I'm aware my criticism will land me among the minority when it comes to my assessment but it's how I felt after listening to it three times. Not so bad I wouldn't listen to it again, but not good enough I'd spend my free time with it.
I can extend an olive branch for some doom influence, particularly in regards to the pacing and some of the lead guitar work, but not sure where any death metal comes in aside from the growls. I think labeling them as black metal-lite is more accurate.
As for memorable melodies and fantastic atmosphere, that's a hard disagree from me. The melodies came across as generic and repetitive, with the atmosphere laying a cheesy foundation. But I understand why it's lauded by some; it just failed to resonate with me on any of those levels.
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Dark Cornatus Powerslave ElitePosts: 4330 |
14.08.2020 - 00:27Rating: 7
It's definitely their weakest album, purely because of the lack of differentiation and diversity in the songs.
The Deluge was an amazing song, and i love it, but i failed to find another song i really enjoyed from the album after buying it. It's not bad by any means, just a little monotonous.
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DonMoenning
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17.08.2020 - 06:52Rating: 10
Written by Troy Killjoy on 13.08.2020 at 00:33
Written by DonMoenning on 12.08.2020 at 21:41
Odd assessment. Pretty high quality album and praised mostly everywhere. I love it. I think there is just as much doom/death as there is atmoblack. Does a very nice job creating weighty songs with memorable melodies and a fantastic atmosphere. They haven't been "black metal" for some time, so weird to see your review framed around that sentiment.
I'm aware my criticism will land me among the minority when it comes to my assessment but it's how I felt after listening to it three times. Not so bad I wouldn't listen to it again, but not good enough I'd spend my free time with it.
I can extend an olive branch for some doom influence, particularly in regards to the pacing and some of the lead guitar work, but not sure where any death metal comes in aside from the growls. I think labeling them as black metal-lite is more accurate.
As for memorable melodies and fantastic atmosphere, that's a hard disagree from me. The melodies came across as generic and repetitive, with the atmosphere laying a cheesy foundation. But I understand why it's lauded by some; it just failed to resonate with me on any of those levels.
Fair enough. Music is subjective and I'm not saying you're wrong at all. I will say that my initial impression was similar, but I gave it 10+ spins and it really sank in once given proper time. Was a grower, for sure.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
I should love the fuck out of this....and maybe I will after a few more spins. First run through I share your thoughts. Excellent review and thanks.
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sojournermike
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Written by Dark Cornatus on 14.08.2020 at 00:27
It's definitely their weakest album, purely because of the lack of differentiation and diversity in the songs.
The Deluge was an amazing song, and i love it, but i failed to find another song i really enjoyed from the album after buying it. It's not bad by any means, just a little monotonous.
For what it's worth, as the main songwriter and person that recorded the album, I totally agree with you and the reviewer.
I know this is a pretty random reply after 4 years, but I was doing a general trawl through old reviews etc. as I worked on the new stuff for the upcoming album. Premonitions was written and recorded during a really shitty time for all of us, but we had an inter-band divorce happening and loads of stuff was just really bad for pretty much every member...I was proud of The Deluge and Fatal Frame, for sure, and to some degree the second track and the last track. But overall this album just wasn't nearly as good as I wished it had been, and I remember nights of just slogging through writing and recording being pretty distracted by how bad everything else was at the time (I literally recorded the last few parts of Fatal Frame to send off as the final lines of the album before mixing while I was insanely drunk at 2am on the night of my leaving party before I had to be at the airport at 8am to leave Scotland because my visa had expired). Nothing about the album was very fun or enjoyable looking back, the internal atmosphere of band was just so bad and there was such a bad atmosphere...so yeah, I don't blame anyone for not liking the album haha I put a lot of effort into it, endless hours, but honestly it was the worst time of all of our lives in general and it wasn't conducive to making a good album.
So all I can say is sorry and I promise this next one will be infinitely better if you enjoyed what we'd done before Premonitions, I get it's not everyone's thing, but I can at least guarantee there won't be another one like this. I wanted to cut Atonement, because of some internal stuff we couldn't, but it's without a doubt the worst song we ever wrote in every aspect...just a terrible track. Atonement, Our Bones Among the Ruins, and Where Lost Hope Lies are three tracks I'd wipe from existence if I could. But what can you do haha.
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Starvynth i c deaf people StaffPosts: 3251 |
Written by sojournermike on 29.01.2025 at 10:50
For what it's worth, as the main songwriter and person that recorded the album, I totally agree with you and the reviewer.
(...) it's without a doubt the worst song we ever wrote in every aspect...just a terrible track. Atonement, Our Bones Among the Ruins, and Where Lost Hope Lies are three tracks I'd wipe from existence if I could. But what can you do haha.
This has to be the most honest and self-reflective response from an artist to criticism of their work that I’ve ever read on Metal Storm.
Seriously, I find it very remarkable that you’re so self-critical and that you even have the patience to engage with criticism that was voiced years ago.
There are plenty of examples of how other musicians have handled criticism in recent times (like here, or here) and I feel it's getting worse, but your reaction stands in stark contrast to that.
I truly respect that.
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