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No comments here yet? I'm amazed such a good album gets such little recognition; surely the album is far from perfect, but the songwriting and performance are really good, the music is expressive and full of energy.
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13.07.2012 - 15:31Rating: 10
Written by [user id=17278] on 25.02.2012 at 02:53
No comments here yet? I'm amazed such a good album gets such little recognition; surely the album is far from perfect, but the songwriting and performance are really good, the music is expressive and full of energy.
Simple but beautiful arrangements, amazing riffs and solos, aggressive and emotional vocals ... As a whole - one of the masterpieces of this great band !!!
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Written by Vasil de Shumen on 13.07.2012 at 15:31
Written by [user id=17278] on 25.02.2012 at 02:53
No comments here yet? I'm amazed such a good album gets such little recognition; surely the album is far from perfect, but the songwriting and performance are really good, the music is expressive and full of energy.
Simple but beautiful arrangements, amazing riffs and solos, aggressive and emotional vocals ... As a whole - one of the masterpieces of this great band !!!
I have to agree about vocals, most 80's bands in a genre could work emotional on vocals, even if lyrics sucked
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JOPE OF STEELE Steelemeister
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30.09.2018 - 14:50Rating: 8
I wouldn't say it's best kind of Savatage album, but a successful one nevertheless. Not any highly memorable songs here though.
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Redel ModeratorPosts: 2246 |
30.09.2018 - 23:39Rating: 7
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Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 30.09.2018 at 14:50
I wouldn't say it's best kind of Savatage album, but a successful one nevertheless. Not any highly memorable songs here though.
Oh, I would say the title track is highly memorable here. Other than that, yeah, not that much to dig here probably.
But indeed a significant album for the band back at the time.
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JOPE OF STEELE Steelemeister
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01.10.2018 - 12:44Rating: 8
Written by Redel on 30.09.2018 at 23:39
Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 30.09.2018 at 14:50
I wouldn't say it's best kind of Savatage album, but a successful one nevertheless. Not any highly memorable songs here though.
Oh, I would say the title track is highly memorable here. Other than that, yeah, not that much to dig here probably.
But indeed a significant album for the band back at the time.
That would be my first choice as well. However I don't find myself listening to it very often. To me it lacks some of the appeal that the best Savatage tracks possess.
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Redel ModeratorPosts: 2246 |
01.10.2018 - 21:53Rating: 7
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Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 01.10.2018 at 12:44
Written by Redel on 30.09.2018 at 23:39
Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 30.09.2018 at 14:50
I wouldn't say it's best kind of Savatage album, but a successful one nevertheless. Not any highly memorable songs here though.
Oh, I would say the title track is highly memorable here. Other than that, yeah, not that much to dig here probably.
But indeed a significant album for the band back at the time.
That would be my first choice as well. However I don't find myself listening to it very often. To me it lacks some of the appeal that the best Savatage tracks possess.
Dungeons -- while not far away timewise -- is surprisingly a much better release from their early days.
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JOPE OF STEELE Steelemeister
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09.02.2019 - 17:03Rating: 8
Written by Redel on 01.10.2018 at 21:53
Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 01.10.2018 at 12:44
Written by Redel on 30.09.2018 at 23:39
Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 30.09.2018 at 14:50
I wouldn't say it's best kind of Savatage album, but a successful one nevertheless. Not any highly memorable songs here though.
Oh, I would say the title track is highly memorable here. Other than that, yeah, not that much to dig here probably.
But indeed a significant album for the band back at the time.
That would be my first choice as well. However I don't find myself listening to it very often. To me it lacks some of the appeal that the best Savatage tracks possess.
Dungeons -- while not far away timewise -- is surprisingly a much better release from their early days.
I wouldn't say it's much better but yeah I also prefer Dungeon's songs to Sirens'
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09.02.2019 - 21:58Rating: 7
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Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 09.02.2019 at 17:03
Written by Redel on 01.10.2018 at 21:53
Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 01.10.2018 at 12:44
Written by Redel on 30.09.2018 at 23:39
Written by JOPE OF STEELE on 30.09.2018 at 14:50
I wouldn't say it's best kind of Savatage album, but a successful one nevertheless. Not any highly memorable songs here though.
Oh, I would say the title track is highly memorable here. Other than that, yeah, not that much to dig here probably.
But indeed a significant album for the band back at the time.
That would be my first choice as well. However I don't find myself listening to it very often. To me it lacks some of the appeal that the best Savatage tracks possess.
Dungeons -- while not far away timewise -- is surprisingly a much better release from their early days.
I wouldn't say it's much better but yeah I also prefer Dungeon's songs to Sirens'
Well, saying that it is much better was probably exaggerating a bit. But, hey I like almost every song on Dungeons (Midas Knight is the killer track for me), while I do really not find much more than the title track on Sirens that I can remember well.
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majormalfunction
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21.03.2020 - 19:12Rating: 6
Not my favourite Savatage album but I do appreciate the fast and furious approach with lots of great riffing.
If your gonna get it then pick up any version which is remastered, this one really needed the facelift.
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blackwreath13
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Can't believe MS uses that album cover over this beauty...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSlpFLoGo-5p-S_UutPpKHYu9CjvQqHMfRLyQ&usqp=CAU
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Starvynth i c deaf people StaffPosts: 3165 |
Written by blackwreath13 on 18.08.2021 at 11:00
Can't believe MS uses that album cover over this beauty...
Well, we always use the original artwork of the first pressing, so it's never really a matter of choice nor is it always a clear sign of incompetence, stupidity and neglect.
The image you tried to link (use http s:// and people may even see its full beauty) is admittedly the more well-known artwork, but it's taken from the 1985 reissue.
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Written by Starvynth on 18.08.2021 at 11:36
Written by blackwreath13 on 18.08.2021 at 11:00
Can't believe MS uses that album cover over this beauty...
Well, we always use the original artwork of the first pressing, so it's never really a matter of choice nor hardly ever a clear sign of incompetence, stupidity and neglect.
The image you tried to link (use https:// and people may even see its full beauty) is admittedly the more well-known artwork, but it's taken from the 1985 reissue.
It wasn't meant as a criticism or anything, I get it policy and all, it's just... so much better than the original.
I'm using a phone, trying to figure out what I keep doing wrong before throwing in the towel. -_-
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Written by blackwreath13 on 18.08.2021 at 11:54
It wasn't meant as a criticism or anything, I get it policy and all, it's just... so much better than the original.
All good. It's just that we originally had the "correct" artwork, but it was recently changed on a (legitimate) user request, so there's not much we can do about it.
Your picture can't be embedded, unfortunately, because the .jpg is missing at the end. But I guess this will do.
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Ganondox
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This album was ahead of it's time, very heavy for it's day while retaining the melodic complexity that a lot of early thrash metal bands lacked.
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qlacs "The Quaker"
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Why was the artwork changed for the one on the reissue?
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JoHn Doe
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Written by qlacs on 21.01.2022 at 15:27
Why was the artwork changed for the one on the reissue?
could be worse, Fates Warning's debut album has had three covers.
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Starvynth i c deaf people StaffPosts: 3165 |
Written by qlacs on 21.01.2022 at 15:27
Why was the artwork changed for the one on the reissue?
I can guarantee you that the current image (the blue sailing ship) is the original image of the first Par Records vinyl pressing from 1983.
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Written by JoHn Doe on 21.01.2022 at 15:57
I listened to this album on cassette, long ago and it had the cover you posted above.
I believe you, because I also owned this cassette a long time ago.
But I can only repeat myself: the sailing ship is the original and first cover. The much more well-known cover was used for all subsequent re-releases and re-issues, including the 1985 cassette.
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Written by Starvynth on 21.01.2022 at 16:12
Written by JoHn Doe on 21.01.2022 at 15:57
I listened to this album on cassette, long ago and it had the cover you posted above.
I believe you, because I also owned this cassette a long time ago.
But I can only repeat myself: the sailing ship is the original and first cover. The much more well-known cover was used for all subsequent re-releases and re-issues, including the 1985 cassette.
You're probably right. I do not doubt what you state here.
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