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40 Watt Sun - The Inside Room



8.2 | 156 votes |
Release date: 4 March 2011
Style: Doom metal

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01. Restless
02. Open My Eyes
03. Take Me In [vinyl bonus]
04. Between Times
05. Carry Me Home
06. This Alone

The best Doom Metal album of 2011

Line-up
Patrick Walker - guitar, vocals
Christian Leitch - drums, percussion
William Spong - bass, percussion

Staff review by
BitterCOld
Rating:
9.0
When last we left Pat Walker he was playing guitar and providing heart-wrenching vocals for Warning on the powerful Watching From A Distance album. That album found itself on many staff "best of the 00's" lists. Then things fell through. Band imploded. Kablooey.

Four years later Pat Walker is back with two new mates, bassist William Spong and drummer Christian Leitch, a new band, 40 Watt Sun, and a new album, The Inside Room.

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published 21.04.2011 | Comments (34)

27.03.2011
If you have been paying any attention at all, you know that 40 Watt Sun is the reincarnation of the now-defunct Warning (and if you don't even know who Warning is, gtfo). Let me tell you, Patrick Walker once again delivers: the atmosphere is, well, you'll just have to experience for yourself. The mandatory stuff for every self-loathing doom fan.

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24.08.2014 - 16:33
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Diverge on 24.08.2014 at 16:21

And you're obviously a keen doom listener because you've taken an album that 99% of us have labeled as doom metal and reminded us of its truly progressive leanings.


Not only 99% of us here, but I would say 99.9% of all doom fans, doom musicians, doom labels, die hard doomsters as well then


And as for the bass. As if it has to have a bass to be considered doom.
So, not having a bass would rule out Skepticism and Profetus as doom bands, going by the bass theory.
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24.08.2014 - 16:41
Rating: 9
Diverge

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.08.2014 at 16:33

Not only 99% of us here, but I would say 99.9% of all doom fans, doom musicians, doom labels, die hard doomsters as well then

Yeah, even giving him 1% of non-consensus is too generous.
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24.08.2014 - 17:54
Rating: 8
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
I was going to respond to that quote before I read more of his comments. It was a good effort, Joe. But unfortunately I don't think even that incredibly articulate description of why this isn't progressive will resonate with him. He's still busy making up genres and focusing on the smallest elements and making them out to be far more significant than they are.
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24.08.2014 - 18:15
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To be honest the guy can think what he likes about genres, but I don't understand why 99.9? of people are "amateurs" because none of them think in God Buster's totally unorthodox way. We aren't magically aware of these entirely new ways of looking at prog metal based on vocals and bass guitar, not to mention hitherto unheard of classifications of music, like "white progressive" and "black jazz progressive." Forgive us sheep, God Buster. We all clearly wasted our time trying to engage with the idea of genre construction by learning about it through consensus. I should have realised pulling random phrases and definitions spontaneously out of my ass was the correct way to examine music.
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24.08.2014 - 19:04
Rating: 8
Dr. Strawberry

Written by Diverge on 24.08.2014 at 16:21

What the hell? I thought his first post was seriously misinformed, but he actually considered the avant-garde label. *facepalm*

Maybe I'm just a total moron, but what the hell is white-progressive and black-jazz-progressive? I consider myself a prog fan, and so I'm surprised that I haven't seen those terms. If these are actual concepts, you clearly know more about progressive music than...well, just about everyone on MS. And you're obviously a keen doom listener because you've taken an album that 99% of us have labeled as doom metal and reminded us of its truly progressive leanings. You're totally right- we were all just paying way too much attention to the bass, and so we ended up getting the label wrong.


I am no expert, just to open up a discussion as I found the progressive elements in the vocal-melody sectiosn on this album. Hope I am not off topic.

White-progressive here means white men's progreesive music, black progressive means black men's progressive music, of course both are not official terms. White musicians adopted elements of 60's Black Blues and evolved a style of their own with blending guitars virtuosity and very unusual vocal melody composition became - progressive rock in the late 60's- 70's. The black can not sing white man type of progressive vocals but they wanted to show that they can do better so they mixed everything plus what they're good at - Jazz in their music became a modern mixed styles jazzy-psychedelic progressive in the late 70's. You totally can tell they're black if you don't open up the cover...

Generally speaking white men's progressive muisc is truly amazing but they're very underrated, if you're a progressive fans you can check out the followings, I would say my all time favorites.
Gravy Train - Gravy Train, Renaissance - Prologue, The Floating Bridge - The Floating Bridge, The Beggar's Opera - Waters Of Change...etc. Genesis ? No...they're similar to Metallica...too much overrated.
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24.08.2014 - 19:09
Rating: 8
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Categorizing music by race.
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24.08.2014 - 19:18
Ilham
Giant robot
Please let's all forget about this. Please don't reply. Please move on. You will thank me later.

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24.08.2014 - 19:26
Rating: 9
Diverge

I have nothing further to contribute.
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24.08.2014 - 20:16
moonflash

Thanks for the good laugh folks.
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25.08.2014 - 23:31
Rating: 8
Erik M.

What the fuck is that guy talking about? Progressive doom metal?

Listen to Noekk and you'll hear actual progressive doom (folk) metal. 40 Watt Sun is totally doom metal. Also can't remember hearing any shoegaze elements (which Joe is claiming) but I haven't listened to this album in many months, so that might be it.
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26.08.2014 - 01:18
Rating: 9
Diverge

Written by Erik M. on 25.08.2014 at 23:31

What the fuck is that guy talking about? Progressive doom metal?

Listen to Noekk and you'll hear actual progressive doom (folk) metal. 40 Watt Sun is totally doom metal. Also can't remember hearing any shoegaze elements (which Joe is claiming) but I haven't listened to this album in many months, so that might be it.

Yeah I thought the shoegaze suggestion was a little odd myself, but at least it's more reasonable than calling this progressive.
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26.08.2014 - 21:16
Rating: 8
Erik M.

Written by Diverge on 26.08.2014 at 01:18

Yeah I thought the shoegaze suggestion was a little odd myself, but at least it's more reasonable than calling this progressive.


Yeah, I'll have to check this again but I know the album quite well already and I never heard any shoegaze in 40 Watt Sun's sound. And yeah, calling it progressive is indeed ridiculous.
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26.08.2014 - 21:17
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You people need to listen to more Jesu.
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26.08.2014 - 21:39
Boxcar Willy
yr a kook
Written by Guest on 26.08.2014 at 21:17

You people need to listen to more Jesu.

This I agree with.
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26.08.2014 - 21:42
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 26.08.2014 at 21:39

Written by Guest on 26.08.2014 at 21:17

You people need to listen to more Jesu.

This I agree with.

Actually I need to listen to more Jesu too. Might give Silver another going over soon.
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27.08.2014 - 15:33
Rating: 8
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Agree with both of you. Even Craig commented on the Jesu sound in his review.
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27.08.2014 - 17:12
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 27.08.2014 at 15:33

Agree with both of you. Even Craig commented on the Jesu sound in his review.

Glad I'm not hearing things then.
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28.08.2014 - 04:10
Rating: 9
Diverge

Written by Guest on 26.08.2014 at 21:17

You people need to listen to more Jesu.

I stand corrected. Four hours of listening to random Jesu tracks on Youtube for the first time, and I've come to the conclusion that you were right and I was wrong.
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28.08.2014 - 11:26
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Written by Diverge on 28.08.2014 at 04:10

I stand corrected. Four hours of listening to random Jesu tracks on Youtube for the first time, and I've come to the conclusion that you were right and I was wrong.

Awesome. Unless sarcasm, in which case not awesome.
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28.08.2014 - 15:34
Rating: 9
Diverge

Written by Guest on 28.08.2014 at 11:26

Written by Diverge on 28.08.2014 at 04:10

I stand corrected. Four hours of listening to random Jesu tracks on Youtube for the first time, and I've come to the conclusion that you were right and I was wrong.

Awesome. Unless sarcasm, in which case not awesome.

No sarcasm.
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16.11.2014 - 02:58
Rating: 9
Diverge

Ahahaha just remembered this.
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03.02.2015 - 08:30
Maco
Pvt Funderground
The music is still melancholic, but also less dark and depressive than Watching From A Distance. It feels like the hope is gaining ground over the sadness and the despair. It might be for the fantastic singing, or the lyrics that I think that.
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14.01.2016 - 21:36
LuciferOfGayness
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Written by Guest on 24.08.2014 at 11:20

This is doom metal with some shoegaze influence. Certainly not progressive in any conventional sense, and not avant-garde in any sense.


Doom metal with (some) *slowcore influence. The same goes for WFAD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHUVL21IN4w
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15.01.2016 - 00:10
Rating: 9
Diverge

^This is going to turn out well, I'm sure.
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14.07.2016 - 07:50
Maco
Pvt Funderground
Take Me In:

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16.07.2016 - 06:20
Rating: 9
Diverge

^Great track! Can't say I heard that one until now.

I want these guys to release their new album ASAP. I've been on a real Pat Walker binge as of late.
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27.08.2021 - 15:35
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Tage Westerlund
Forgotten band, no updates, just 2 good awesome albums, slow, emotional mournful doom a bit Ahab vibes, even funeral doom (this is not) fans can like it.
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06.02.2022 - 11:27
Dylan 1974

Two words: fucking monumental.
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