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An entirely subjective list of my all-time favourite metal albums, well lets better say albums/genres featured on MS, since not all here is precisely metal.
Objective quality is not a criteria here, just how much I like the album. Ordered by preference, top down.

Created by: Redel | 01.03.2014



1. Anathema - The Silent Enigma
2. Opeth - Morningrise
3. Estatic Fear - Somnium Obmutum
4. My Dying Bride - Turn loose the swans
5. Slayer - Seasons in the abyss
6. My Dying Bride - The Angel and the dark river
7. Megadeth - Rust in peace
8. Iced Earth - Night of the stormrider
9. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
10. Edge of Sanity - Crimson
11. Blind Guardian - Somewhere far beyond
12. Bolt Thrower - ...for victory
13. Opeth - Still life
14. Death - Symbolic
15. Immortal - At the heart of winter
16. Dark Tranquillity - The gallery
17. Primordial - To the nameless dead
18. Slayer - South of heaven
19. Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings
20. Agalloch - The mantle
21. Bathory - Hammerheart
22. Sepultura - Beneath the remains
23. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
24. Tiamat - Clouds
25. Opeth - Orchid
26. My Dying Bride - Like Gods of the sun
27. Sepultura - Arise
28. Moonspell - Wolfheart
29. Opeth - Blackwater Park
30. Cemetary - Godless Beauty
31. Haggard - Eppur si muove
32. Summoning - Let mortal heroes sing your fame
33. Iron Maiden - Powerslave
34. Death Angel - The ultra-violence
35. Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?
36. Metallica - Ride the lightning
37. Dark Tranquillity - Damage done
38. Slayer - Reign in blood
39. In Flames - The Jester Race
40. Be'lakor - Stone's reach
41. Mourning Beloveth - The sullen sulcus
42. Slayer - Show no mercy
43. Iron Maiden - Seventh son of a seventh son
44. DIO - Holy diver
45. In Flames - Clayman
46. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
47. Savatage - Gutter ballet
48. Agalloch - Ashes against the grain
49. Theatre of Tragedy - Theatre of Tragedy
50. Bolt Thrower - Warmaster
51. The Elysian Fields - We...The Enlightened
52. Judas Priest - Painkiller
53. Tiamat - Wildhoney
54. Samael - Ceremony of opposites
55. Saturnus - Veronika decides to die
56. Cryptopsy - None so vile
57. Unanimated - Ancient God of evil
58. Bolt Thrower - The IVth Crusade
59. Sodom - Agent Orange
60. Mercyful Fate - Melissa
61. Iron Maiden - The Number of the beast
62. My Dying Bride - The light at the end of the world
63. The Gathering - Mandylion
64. Anathema - Eternity
65. Manilla Road - Crystal logic
66. Insomnium - Above the weeping world
67. Mourning Beloveth - Dust
68. My Dying Bride - The dreadful hours
69. Death - The Sound of Perseverance
70. Metallica - Kill 'Em all
71. Draconian - Arcane rain fell
72. Opeth - My arms, your hearse
73. Savatage - Handful of rain
74. Bathory - Twilight of the Gods
75. Summoning - Stronghold
76. Katatonia - Dance of December Souls
77. Kreator - Coma of souls
78. Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of violence
79. Coroner - No more color
80. Helloween - Keeper of the seven keys Part II
81. Helloween - Keeper of the seven keys Part I
82. Gamma Ray - Land of the free
83. Iced Earth - Iced Earth
84. Metallica - Master of puppets
85. Amorphis - Tales from the Thousand Lakes
86. Death - Human
87. Obituary - Cause of death
88. Judas Priest - Stained class
89. Rush - Moving pictures
90. Judas Priest - Sad wings of destiny
91. Savatage - Hall of the mountain king
92. Exodus - Bonded by blood
93. Wintersun - Wintersun
94. Anacrusis - Screams and whispers
95. Savatage - Streets: A Rock opera
96. Rainbow - Rising
97. Anathema - Alternative 4
98. Queensrÿche - Operation: Mindcrime
99. Dream Theater - Images and words
100. Warning - Watching from a distance
101. Sanctuary - Into the mirror black
102. Blind Guardian - Imaginations from the other side
103. Ensiferum - Ensiferum
104. Devastation - Idolatry
105. Holy Terror - Mind wars
106. Entombed - Left hand path
107. Entombed - Clandestine
108. Carcass - Heartwork
109. Primordial - The gathering wilderness
110. Paradise Lost - Icon
111. Empyrium - Songs of moors and misty fields
112. Morgion - Among majestic ruin
113. Primordial - Redemption at the Puritan's hand
114. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss
115. Necrophobic - The nocturnal silence
116. King Crimson - In the court of the crimson king
117. Green Carnation - Light of day, day of darkness
118. Bathory - Blood on ice
119. Beyond Belief - Rave the abyss
120. Estatic Fear - A Sombre Dance
121. Dark Millennium - Ashore the celestial burden
122. October Tide - Rain without end
123. Saturnus - Paradise belongs to you
124. My Dying Bride - For lies I sire
125. Blind Guardian - Tales from the twilight world
126. Edge of Sanity - Purgatory afterglow
127. Rush - Hemispheres
128. Slayer - Hell awaits
129. Mercyful Fate - Don't break the oath
130. Dark Angel - Darkness descends
131. Blind Guardian - Battalions of fear
132. Bolt Thrower - Those once loyal
133. Nevermore - This godless endeavor
134. Num Skull - Ritually abused
135. Testament - The legacy
136. Sepultura - Chaos A.D.
137. Blind Guardian - Follow the blind
138. Pantera - Cowboys from hell
139. Alice in Chains - Dirt
140. Anthrax - Among the living
141. Saturnus - Martyre
142. Gates of Ishtar - A bloodred path
143. The Elysian Fields - 12abLAZe
144. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
145. Falconer - Falconer
146. Overkill - The years of decay
147. Dissection - The somberlain
148. The Elysian Fields - Adelain
149. Dissection - Storm of the light's bane
150. Black Sabbath - Heaven and hell
151. Anathema - Judgement
152. Deep Purple - In Rock
153. Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone darkness triumphant
154. Danzig - Danzig III - How The Gods Kill
155. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
156. The Drowning - This bleak descent
157. Cynic - Focus
158. Death - Individual thought patterns
159. Judas Priest - Defenders of the faith
160. Holy Moses - Queen of Siam
161. Znowhite - Act of God
162. Nevermore - Dead heart in a dead world
163. Suicidal Tendencies - How Will I Laugh Tomorrow... When I Can't Even Smile Today
164. Gates of Ishtar - At dusk and forever
165. Process of Guilt - Erosion
166. Black Sabbath - Mob rules
167. Judas Priest - Screaming for vengeance
168. Anthrax - Spreading the disease
169. Massacre - From beyond
170. Morbid Angel - Altars of madness
171. Tiamat - The astral sleep
172. Anathema - Serenades
173. Kreator - Violent revolution
174. Metallica - ...And justice for all
175. Officium Triste - Mors viri
176. Kreator - Pleasure to kill
177. Tristania - Widow's weeds
178. Cirith Ungol - King of the dead
179. Helloween - Walls of Jericho
180. Rage - The missing link
181. Amorphis - Elegy
182. The 3rd And The Mortal - Tears laid in earth
183. Lake of Tears - Headstones
184. Galadriel - The mirror of ages
185. Diamond Head - Lightning to the nations
186. Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
187. Night in Gales - Towards the twilight
188. Morgion - Cloaked by ages, crowned in earth
189. Flotsam and Jetsam - No place for disgrace
190. Sepultura - Schizophrenia
191. Agalloch - Marrow of the spirit
192. Crimson Glory - Transcendence
193. Before the Rain - ...One day less
194. Black Sabbath - Master of reality
195. Virgin Black - Requiem - Mezzo forte
196. Before the Rain - Frail
197. Crimson Glory - Crimson glory
198. Running Wild - Black hand inn
199. In Flames - Colony
200. Moonspell - Irreligious
201. Dark Quarterer - Dark Quarterer
202. Fates Warning - Awaken the guardian
203. Running Wild - Death or glory
204. Razor - Violent restitution
205. Malevolent Creation - The ten commandments
206. Vendetta (GER) - Brain damage
207. Skyclad - The silent whales of lunar sea
208. Nazareth - Hair of the dog
209. Haggard - Awaking the centuries
210. Cloven Hoof - A sultan's ransom
211. Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet darkness they fear
212. Iron Maiden - Fear of the dark
213. Gamma Ray - Insanity and genius
214. Flotsam and Jetsam - Doomsday for the deceiver
215. Kreator - Extreme aggression
216. Count Raven - High on infinity
217. Jethro Tull - Aqualung
218. Rage against the machine - Rage against the machine
219. Dismember - Like an ever flowing stream
220. Nocturnus - The key
221. Artillery - By inheritance
222. Iron Maiden - Somewhere in time
223. Rainbow - Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow
224. Mourning Beloveth - A disease for the ages
225. At the Gates - The red in the sky is ours
226. Psychotic Waltz - Bleeding
227. Lake of Tears - Greater art
228. Obituary - Slowly we rot
229. Moonsorrow - Voimasta Ja Kunniasta
230. Primordial - Where greater men have fallen
231. Savatage - Edge of thorns
232. Rush - 2112
233. Running Wild - Pile of skulls
234. Opeth - Ghost Reveries
235. In Flames - Reroute To Remain
236. Dark Tranquillity - Projector
237. Amorphis - Under the red cloud
238. Pantera - Vulgar display of power
239. Metallica - Metallica
240. Forbidden - Forbidden evil
241. My Dying Bride - Songs of darkness, words of light
242. Death - Spiritual healing
243. Candlemass - Nightfall
244. Mistveil - Amnesia
245. Pentagram - Pentagram
246. Deep Purple - Machine head
247. Sodom - Persecution mania
248. Skyclad - Prince of the poverty line
249. My Dying Bride - A line of deathless kings
250. Therion - Theli
251. Paradise Lost - Draconian times
252. Iced Earth - The dark saga
253. Trees of Eternity - Hour of the nightingale
254. Danzig - Danzig
255. Alcest - Spiritual instinct
256. Darkseed - Spellcraft
257. Vordven - Towards the frozen stream
258. Cemetary - Black vanity
259. Pallbearer - Foundations of burden
260. Shattered Hope - Absence
261. Officium Triste - Reason
262. Savatage - Dead winter dead
263. Anathema - Weather systems
264. Haggard - And thou shalt trust... the seer
265. Iced Earth - Something wicked this way comes
266. Morgion - Solinari
267. My Dying Bride - Feel the misery
268. Crematory - ... just dreaming
269. Paradise Lost - Shades of God
270. Novembre - Classica



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28.09.2021 - 15:41
F3ynman2000

Written by Redel on 28.09.2021 at 15:30

Then my impression was biased I guess. Just go on and have fun.

Thanks! I've got to admit that other than Seasons in the Abyss, I haven't been basing my metal journey off your list. I guess I need to check out more of the albums you've listed here...
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28.09.2021 - 17:56
Redel

Written by F3ynman2000 on 28.09.2021 at 15:41

I guess I need to check out more of the albums you've listed here...

You sure need to.
Well at least if you want to dig some more "old" metal because that is what you mostly find in my best of list here (old just is best).
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18.10.2021 - 21:58
aeeon
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Very good list. I agree almost with everything and I've listened most of this stuff. I see that you like metal with atmosphere, emotions, etc. You have similar taste as mine with some minor differences; I'm suprised that bands like Emperor (which I consider as my favourite metal band), Burzum or Drudkh are not on this list, but perhaps you are not so much into typical black metal as into other genres (?), which is unique, especially if you like music that evokes strong emotions ("The Silent Enigma", "The Angel and the dark river", etc.)

P.S. From your list I discovered Estatic Fear year ago, it was completely unknown band for me, Thank you.
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18.10.2021 - 22:16
Redel

Written by Guest on 18.10.2021 at 21:58

Very good list. I agree almost with everything and I've listened most of this stuff. I see that you like metal with atmosphere, emotions, etc. You have similar taste as mine with some minor differences; I'm suprised that bands like Emperor (which I consider as my favourite metal band), Burzum or Drudkh are not on this list, but perhaps you are not so much into typical black metal as into other genres (?), which is unique, especially if you like music that evokes strong emotions ("The Silent Enigma", "The Angel and the dark river", etc.)

P.S. From your list I discovered Estatic Fear year ago, it was completely unknown band for me, Thank you.


Thanks for caring to comment here. You agree with "almost everything" Wow! I tend to say I cannot believe this.

It is exactly as you phrase it. "Typical black metal" is mostly not for me. The two popular Emperor albums are great, timeless classics probably. They are to be found somewhere in the hidden part of this list (at around ranks 600 - 650). But there is just so much I prefer to them.
Burzum and Drudkh -- what I have spun so far -- dont do a lot to me.
I know that my taste in this sense is not pretty common, as for "unique" I dont know though.

I am happy that you found Estatic Fear (if you like them as much as me). Somnium Obmutum can be regarded as my all-time favourite album in general, at least in the top 5, which are in this respect more or less arbitrary ranks in my list.

Let us see some of your favourite albums. ...A list?
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18.10.2021 - 23:01
aeeon
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Well, perhaps you were born in 80s and discovered metal in 90s? This is what I see from this list Well, if so, it was the same with me, so many albums here are also my favourite. For example "Clouds", not many people consider this as classic, but this is one of these albums I listened many many times and I prefer this over Wildhoney, which has different, more psychodelic mood (Clouds has more "dreamy" mood). This band were very popular in Poland.
I would change Samael "Ceremony" with "Passage", but perhaps it was first album I've disovered from them. Also lyrically I think "Passage" is better.
"Wolfheart" is also one of these albums that evokes big nostalghia.

"Somnium Obmutum" was my disovery of previous year (2020). For me this album is perfect mix of gothic, black and folk metal. This is a kind of "journey album", something that evokes feelings that takes you somewhere (in your mind) with unique atmosphere. I like such stuff a lot.

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Let us see some of your favourite albums. ...A list?

Well, maybe in the future I'll create something. I had period in my life (let's say 2006-2016) when I listened very little metal, so at the beginning when I was reborn as metalhead I felt that I should first listen albums from this period. Drudkh is perhaps my favourite "modern" band.
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19.10.2021 - 09:10
Redel

Written by Guest on 18.10.2021 at 23:01

Well, perhaps you were born in 80s and discovered metal in 90s? This is what I see from this list

I had period in my life (let's say 2006-2016) when I listened very little metal, so at the beginning when I was reborn as metalhead I felt that I should first listen albums from this period.


Born late 70s, coming to metal in the early 90s it was for me. And I know this fact is pretty visible from my list. I sometimes even feel kind of guitly that I rate a lot of 90s metal so high. Well, it is just the music that I first fell in love with. Will always be the most relevant music for me, I kind of know.

I also had a period in my life when I turned away from metal, 1998 to 2002. It was so great to return. Though today I unforntunately do not discover much later stuff that I really enjoy much. I hope that is not the case for you because it feels pretty frustrating at times.
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19.10.2021 - 15:31
aeeon
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Well, it is just the music that I first fell in love with.

Well, it's often like that, I also have nostalghia for old good times and for me 80s and 90s are the best in metal. But in music generally I like 60s and 70s. Well, to be objective, these were the best times in music, when everything was fresh and in some way innocent. I remember this feeling in middle 90s when I disovered new bands and was so excited just by looking at album covers in metal magazine [..], doing some lists what to buy next, etc. It was not so easy as today, many metal classics in Poland were not available in stores, so many albums I buyed on "second-hand" market, some I borrowed from friends, etc.
When I listen popular music and watch some movies from 70s, I also feel this kind of nostalghia, even greater, because I feel that music, even pop music, had much more power in these times. In popculture it was like spring time, today we have winter, to put it metaphorically. In pop/soft-rock music there were so many polish songs, hundreds of songs I liked a lot and they evoked strong emotions in me. But today there is nothing to like, I don't feel this purity and honesty that old artist had, this freedom of artistic expression and passion, it's like corrupted and adopted to bussiness-standards fake spirit of music. For sure there are exceptions, but generally this is what I see, at least here where I live. Well, it's sad.

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I hope that is not the case for you because it feels pretty frustrating at times.

Yes and no. In my adulthood I discovered many new (for me) bands that I enjoyed very much. Vektor (I like their energy, passion), Drudkh (it evokes in me different emotions than 90s black metal), Blut Aus Nord (I like their philisophy not so being in chains of "metal conventions", because I hate when some bands are doing something for the sake of immature fans expectations like singing childish things about devil or old gods instead of expressing what is in their hearts/minds and playing all the time the same music over and over again), Alcest (maybe theyre not creating masterpieces, but they for sure have unique personality), some american black metal bands like Wolves in the Throne Room or similar less known - I like their spirit more than scandinavian bands in 90s, even if musically they are not on the same level as best old bands. In modern metal I would not look for bands that "recycle" music of the past, but create something new or if they recycle (because it's inevitable) they do this in their own way. There are many groups that have innovative sound, and this is the spirit of today's music. It's different than in the past, but as I said the most important thing in art is being honest, creating something from your heart and being creative. In that as a fan I can connect and find solace. We as a fans should also evolve, wanting to disover new things and trying to be open-minded, even when what we love the most is in the past. As in music, art, so in life, generally speaking..

P.S. I have created yesterday TOP LIST (over 200 albums), but I still must re-listen some albums, that I discovered recently. From relatively new albums (>2000) in first 50 there are only Agalloch, Saturnus, Drudkh and Warning.
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19.10.2021 - 17:05
F3ynman2000

Written by Guest on 19.10.2021 at 15:31

In my adulthood I discovered many new (for me) bands that I enjoyed very much. Vektor (I like their energy, passion)

P.S. I have created yesterday TOP LIST (over 200 albums), but I still must re-listen some albums, that I discovered recently. From relatively new albums (>2000) in first 50 there are only Agalloch, Saturnus, Drudkh and Warning.

Based on your album votes and favorite bands, I'd be very interested in seeing a list of your favorite albums
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19.10.2021 - 18:43
aeeon
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Written by F3ynman2000 on 19.10.2021 at 17:05

Based on your album votes and favorite bands, I'd be very interested in seeing a list of your favorite albums

Thank you. As I said the list is actually being made, but still some edits are needed, some albums re-listened, so it's work in progress for now.
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19.10.2021 - 20:04
Redel

Written by Guest on 19.10.2021 at 15:31

Well, it's often like that, I also have nostalghia for old good times and for me 80s and 90s are the best in metal. But in music generally I like 60s and 70s. Well, to be objective, these were the best times in music, when everything was fresh and in some way innocent. I remember this feeling in middle 90s when I disovered new bands and was so excited just by looking at album covers in metal magazine


I totally see what you mean and I would say it is very similar for me.
Yet I have this hypothesis that all this might also just be a kind of "age effect". What I mean is, it is possible that we feel the way we do with 80s/90s metal because that is the music that was most present at the time we were teenagers. And being a teenager is most probably a very important time for forming your taste in music. People who are teenager today might think completely different, enjoy more of today's metal because they just begin to connect to metal and that is the music that is most present right now.
Dont know, just an idea that I have and that comes recurring when I think about this point. I might be totally wrong of course.

Written by Guest on 19.10.2021 at 15:31

P.S. I have created yesterday TOP LIST (over 200 albums), but I still must re-listen some albums, that I discovered recently. From relatively new albums (>2000) in first 50 there are only Agalloch, Saturnus, Drudkh and Warning.


Wow, top 50 all-time ranks just packed with "old" metal, except for Agalloch, Saturnus, Drudkh and Warning!
That sounds promising to me, at the same time challenging. I want to see your list.
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19.10.2021 - 22:12
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 19.10.2021 at 20:04

Yet I have this hypothesis that all this might also just be a kind of "age effect". What I mean is, it is possible that we feel the way we do with 80s/90s

Of course this is one the main factors for sure, I also thought this way. Although as I said I like music from 60s 70s like soul, folk rock, psychodelic rock and I was not born in this time, I feel nostalghia even when I'm listening music I don't listen (like pop/beatbeat, etc). Of course I may feel nostalghia because this music was played in radio/tv when I was a kid/teenager. You have strong experience when you have strong energy and this is for most people when they are young, it creates patterns in brain, as you said: tastes, but not only that. I have also such strong experience in middle 20s, so I listened different music, because different, more sublime patterns were created in me and suddenly a couple years later energy changed so I was leaved with some vacuum, it was like being child again, so I returned to "old love" (metal), because I was not able to fill this vacuum with sublime music that I listened before, it became too abstract to enjoy, so I needed something stronger.

Second thing is that the pattern with you being teenager in the prime of energy is the same as with music. For heavy/thrash metal 80s is like being teenager, for some genres like gothic/black it was 90s, for different genres of metal, like sludge, post, progressive metal are different periods, so other people develop different taste for these genres in their unique way.
Everything in life, in nature has a cycle, some kind of momentum, "peak". Then it changes, in some way or another, sooner or later, so you cling to the past, you hold that what was dear to you, because it's harder to create something new when your energy is not so powerful anymore..
This is why when you listen new genres, modern music, it's harder to develop something new in you, because creative energy is not so powerful anymore. You like that, more or less, but it's not imprinted in you so strong. For developing strong feelings, strong experience and energy is needed. Sometimes you develop someting but it becomes more or less unconscious (as with me with sublime music like symphonies or piano jazz), so I cannot enjoy it now, but maybe some day it will change. The most important thing is that it was once created, so it doesn't dissapear completely, it just becomes more hidden.

The second factor is your unique personality, you may like some things that was more important in this era and focus on things different than others. For example there is some kind of romanticism in some genres of metal, if you know what i mean. For example when I listen "Serenades" by Anathema, there are some songs that evokes very strong feelings, even if this is not perfect album, it has something unique. The same way is with Bathory "Hammerheart". So during this "peak" era in your life, something is created in you, something is imprinted in you, and you look for that after, because you developed desires for that, for particular feelings, etc. You don't find them in today's music, because energy of this music is different. But if some people developed different impressions, different feelings, they will look in music for something different, unique for them. Some things are universal, more common, like energy of "headbanging", this is why most people like thrash, old, young, but perhaps they can't understand your apprecation for other things, because they are not so common. And in the same way you can't understand them.

One of the things for sure is also the production, for example when I listen modern thrash I have strange feeling that it should sound "different", because I'm so accustomed that classic albums sounded different. But with new genres I don't have this problem, because I don't have in my memory this "image" that it should sounds in specific way.

Still, I enjoyed new bands like Ulcerate or Esoteric and perhaps developed apprecation for new feeling, it's like being crushed inside, some kind of chaos (Ulcerate) or hopeless darkness (Esoteric), when you embrace it inside you, it can destroy something in you and has power to create feeling of katharsis after. It's like being dissolved in some way and feeling more alive after. Perhaps I experienced something similar with Emperor second album, which I personally consider as the most powerful metal album, it's currently on 2 place on my list. It was something unique, that only this band and album achieved. Very dark, but noble at the same time, in a way that I could connect very deep in certain period in my life. Life is always in motion, so today it may be something different, we are always changing.
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21.10.2021 - 10:59
Redel

Written by Guest on 19.10.2021 at 22:12

One of the things for sure is also the production, for example when I listen modern thrash I have strange feeling that it should sound "different", because I'm so accustomed that classic albums sounded different. But with new genres I don't have this problem, because I don't have in my memory this "image" that it should sounds in specific way.

That is definitely true, I agree. Thrash nowadays only seldomly sounds the old-school way how I like it.
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21.10.2021 - 12:54
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 21.10.2021 at 10:59

That is definitely true, I agree. Thrash nowadays only seldomly sounds the old-school way how I like it.

For me the only modern band that is exception is Vektor. Listening them, especially "Black Future" I actually felt the same vibes as with old Metallica or Kreator, it was incredible.
By when I listen modern Testament for example, well, great technicality, but something is lacking, there is not magic here for me. When I listen "The Legacy" or even some songs from later not-so-perfect albums, the magic is here. In music it's all about this magic, these vibes. Vasil de Shumen perhaps would say that this is the true spirit of metal, thrash, etc. And I agree. The same thing is with grunge, you can feel that in the 90s there was something special there in USA, in Seattle. Maybe this was also in gothic metal scene, in europe. And this is something that I consider as essential.
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21.10.2021 - 13:32
AndyMetalFreak
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Written by Guest on 21.10.2021 at 12:54

For me the only modern band that is exception is Vektor. Listening them, especially "Black Future" I actually felt the same vibes as with old Metallica or Kreator, it was incredible.
By when I listen modern Testament for example, well, great technicality, but something is lacking, there is not magic here for me. When I listen "The Legacy" or even some songs from later not-so-perfect albums, the magic is here. In music it's all about this magic, these vibes. Vasil de Shumen perhaps would say that this is the true spirit of metal, thrash, etc. And I agree. The same thing is with grunge, you can feel that in the 90s there was something special there in USA, in Seattle. Maybe this was also in gothic metal scene, in europe. And this is something that I consider as essential.

I think a lot has to do with the way albums are produced nowadays, I think they try so hard these days at perfecting the sound quality, so that albums sound much more clear and refined, but at times it can result in overproduction, which for me takes away the authentic approach. I also believe many bands will inevitably run out of passion, so their songwriting tends to become more lazy.
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21.10.2021 - 14:45
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I think a lot has to do with the way albums are produced nowadays, I think they try so hard these days at perfecting the sound quality,

Most old albums sound good especially if you have good audio equipment. In the past I thought that some albums have suppressed sound, especially bass, but after changing audio equipment (still, quite cheap) and listening only lossless audio files problem was dissolved and most of these albums sounded great. I only had problem recently with Holy Terror "Mind wars", production could be better. Still, I enjoyed it.

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inevitably run out of passion, so their songwriting tends to become more lazy.

yeah, it's not the same passionate energy, but in genres like thrash it's essential. Doom metal bands usually don't have this problem, because they can use this more depressive kind of energy in the creative process. Still, some passion is necessary.
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22.10.2021 - 18:11
Redel

Written by Guest on 21.10.2021 at 12:54

For me the only modern band that is exception is Vektor.

I should revisit Vektor, seeing them praised often lately, more so by people with similar taste to mine.
I tried them a couple of years back. What I recall from the top of my head is: Good debut, nothing remarkable in the two successors. And something was wrong for me with them, was it the sound, or the vocals? That I dont recall now, so I should go to them again.
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22.10.2021 - 22:39
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 22.10.2021 at 18:11

I should revisit Vektor, seeing them praised often lately, more so by people with similar taste to mine.

I just looked at your list and I see Nocturnus "The Key", this classic should be for sure on my list at least in first 150.
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23.10.2021 - 23:09
Redel

Written by Guest on 22.10.2021 at 22:39

Written by Redel on 22.10.2021 at 18:11

I should revisit Vektor, seeing them praised often lately, more so by people with similar taste to mine.

I just looked at your list and I see Nocturnus "The Key", this classic should be for sure on my list at least in first 150.


Yes, The Key is a nice one, not total classic for me, but it is somewhere among my all-time favourites, and I sometimes return to it nowadays.

So, I have done my homework and revisited the Vektor discography.
Well, my ratings stay (lower 7 for the debut, 6 for the other two albums).
I must say that it is the vocals that turn me off in the first place. They are not totally uncommon for Thrash albums but I just cannot stomach them, they annoy me.
And even if I try to filter them out there does not remain much that holds my interest in their albums. Nothing stays with me after the albums are over, nothing, apart from annoying vocals.
That may come across as harsh I know. But it is just how I feel, now that the 2016 album spins to an end.
Now it makes sense why I had to go back to them now, remembering almost nothing from my first visit some years back (apart from that there was something wrong, which was the vocals).
So I guess I should write down on a note for myself now (maybe this comment on my own list will serve) that Vektor are simply not for me.
And there is nothing old-school in their sound for me either, by the way.
Really interesting for me that they are rated so highly.
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24.10.2021 - 00:31
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 23.10.2021 at 23:09

So, I have done my homework and revisited the Vektor discography.
Well, my ratings stay (lower 7 for the debut, 6 for the other two albums).

Well, no problem for me. Sometimes it's like that. They were one of the first bands I discovered when returning to metal. For me their vocals are just expression of energy, they are neither good or bad, they are just doing what they are supposed to do. I may even say that I like them, but I've seen that many people complain about it. For example he sometimes is singing with very high pitch and I like it that way, this is something that is helping to express the energy of their music, it's just powerful.

From bands that are rated high here I don't liked Wintersun, you seems to like them, everyone has their own cup of tea which is perfectly as it should be.
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24.10.2021 - 20:22
Redel

Written by Guest on 24.10.2021 at 00:31


Well, no problem for me. Sometimes it's like that. They were one of the first bands I discovered when returning to metal. For me their vocals are just expression of energy, they are neither good or bad, they are just doing what they are supposed to do. I may even say that I like them, but I've seen that many people complain about it. For example he sometimes is singing with very high pitch and I like it that way, this is something that is helping to express the energy of their music, it's just powerful.

Thats how it is, you nailed it. Often, I cannot even explain rationally why I like certain vocals and find others annoying. Take Chuck Schuldiner, I love his vocals and think they suit extremely well Death's music. Or None So Vile, excellent vocals for me, perfect suit. Then again, someone could claim vocals on Vektor are similarly extreme to the afore mentioned, and they would probably be totally right. Yet, for me, while I love the former, I get annoyed by the latter.

Written by Guest on 24.10.2021 at 00:31

From bands that are rated high here I don't liked Wintersun, you seems to like them, everyone has their own cup of tea which is perfectly as it should be.

Wintersun are one of the few power metal bands that I return to from time to time nowadays, plus one of the even fewer younger pm bands among these.
I started with their debut some time around 2010 or so and did like it kind of at the beginning. Later this album grew on me a lot and today it is one of my all-time favourite pm albums.
Then came the follow-up album, which disappointed me quite a bit. And the 2017 album does not do too much to me either. Both certainly no bad albums but far away from the debut for me.
So, the band is kind of a mixed bag for me.
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24.10.2021 - 21:31
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 24.10.2021 at 20:22

Thats how it is, you nailed it. Often, I cannot even explain rationally why I like certain vocals and find others annoying. Take Chuck Schuldiner, I love his vocals and think they suit extremely well Death's music. Or None So Vile, excellent vocals for me, perfect suit.

What about Rob Halford vocals in "Painkiller"? Many people also complain about them, but they are powerful without a doubt, and this power in vocals is something that intensifies overall musical experience, so when we look at them not separately, but as a part of music, they are very good.

Many vocalist are not so passionate, for example Sodom vocals on "Agent Orange". They are generally not bad, just normal vocals for thrash, but sometimes there could be more power and passion in his voice, something like for example in Dark Angel "Darkness Descends". Look at "Merciless Death" - this is for me very good example of thrash metal, so much energy here in his voice and in music generally.

General rule is that vocals should express some emotions from the soul. Look at Sinead O Connor performance in "Troy", how she changes her voice when emotions change..
Anathema vocals in metal are one of the best example also, always so much emotions in them.

From metal I don't like Demilich vocals - I must admit, one of the worst vocals in metal.
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24.10.2021 - 21:46
Redel

Written by Guest on 24.10.2021 at 21:31


What about Rob Halford vocals in "Painkiller"? Many people also complain about them, but they are powerful without a doubt, and this power in vocals is something that intensifies overall musical experience, so when we look at them not separately, but as a part of music, they are very good.

Many vocalist are not so passionate, for example Sodom vocals on "Agent Orange". They are generally not bad, just normal vocals for thrash, but sometimes there could be more power and passion in his voice, something like for example in Dark Angel "Darkness Descends". Look at "Merciless Death" - this is for me very good example of thrash metal, so much energy here in his voice and in music generally.

Halford on Painkiller is excellent, but not just there, and Angelripper is generally not a particularly great vocalist, I would say. That is a downside on Agent Orange, I agree. Though it does not disturb me much there, still a classic.
Other great vocals fitting the music perfectly that come to mind are Nevermore, at least on Dead Heart and This Godless Endeavour.
Strange for me is King Diamond. While his vocals fit Mercyful Fate for me, they kind of annoy me on his solo project.
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24.10.2021 - 22:00
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 24.10.2021 at 21:46

Written by Guest on 24.10.2021 at 21:31

What about Rob Halford vocals in "Painkiller"? Many people also complain about them, but they are powerful without a doubt, and this power in vocals is something that intensifies overall musical experience, so when we look at them not separately, but as a part of music, they are very good.

Halford on Painkiller is excellent, but not just there

Yeah, for sure, they are many great JP songs where he shows his great vocal abilities. I never had problem with his vocals, so first time I became aware that someone dislikes it when I began to watch music reactions on yt.
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Though it does not disturb me much there, still a classic.

Me too, production on this album is great.

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Strange for me is King Diamond. While his vocals fit Mercyful Fate for me, they kind of annoy me on his solo project.

Well, I didn't have problems with them, both on MF and solo albums.
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24.10.2021 - 22:09
Redel

Written by Guest on 24.10.2021 at 21:31

Dark Angel "Darkness Descends"

Yes, absolutely powerful vocals there, as they should be in thrash.

Written by Guest on 24.10.2021 at 21:31

Anathema vocals in metal are one of the best example also, always so much emotions in them.

And, yes, sooo much. The Silent Enigma comes to mind, vocals express a lot of emotions there for me, making the album so important for me, ever since.
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28.10.2021 - 23:45
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 24.10.2021 at 22:09

The Silent Enigma comes to mind, vocals express a lot of emotions there for me, making the album so important for me, ever since.

Hey, what about Skepticism "Stormcrowfleet "? I was listening this recently in the last days and I love it, it's very unique, quite minimalistic, almost like listening Arvo Part playing doom metal... (especially The Rising of the New Flames) The version I listened is remaster, new mix. Very peaceful music I would say, not so disturbing as Esoteric or other bands. I've listened also Ahab and liked it also a lot, many good riffs here.
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29.10.2021 - 21:50
Redel

Written by Guest on 28.10.2021 at 23:45

Hey, what about Skepticism "Stormcrowfleet "?

It's good. But funeral doom is generally difficult to really appreciate for me.
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29.10.2021 - 22:27
aeeon
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Written by Redel on 29.10.2021 at 21:50

Written by Guest on 28.10.2021 at 23:45

Hey, what about Skepticism "Stormcrowfleet "?

It's good. But funeral doom is generally difficult to really appreciate for me.

OK, I understand, I thought the same, but perhaps I was finally in the mood for such music. And what I found is that it's more easy listen than I thought, at last this band.
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30.10.2021 - 09:16
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Written by Redel on 29.10.2021 at 21:50

Written by Guest on 28.10.2021 at 23:45

Hey, what about Skepticism "Stormcrowfleet "?

It's good. But funeral doom is generally difficult to really appreciate for me.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this violates our TOS.
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30.10.2021 - 14:01
Redel

Written by Troy Killjoy on 30.10.2021 at 09:16

Written by Redel on 29.10.2021 at 21:50

It's good. But funeral doom is generally difficult to really appreciate for me.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this violates our TOS.


That is why I have put it hidden somewhere in the comments section of my own list, instead of shouting it in the box.
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