Written by Angelic Storm on 25.11.2012 at 16:01

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.11.2012 at 10:45
Turbo is their worst, closely followed by Nostradamus, both albums with Owens on vocals are masterpieces compared to both Turbo and Nostradamus

Both of the Ripper albums are very underrated, imo. Especially "Jugulator". And I would say that both albums are better than "Turbo" and "Nostradamus".

Jugulator and Demolition are better than Nostradamus? Have u guys listened to the album? cause that's funny. Nostradamus has tons of great songs. And I mean great songs. "Pestilence and Plague" "Nostradamus" "Prophecy" "Future Of Mankind" "Alone" "Exile". I just don't get it...Jugulator is a very good album but in the end just typical heavy metal and demolition is way worse. Nostradamus has a something deeper...

Written by Lustful Maid on 09.01.2013 at 21:34
Turbo - Masterpiece (Judas Priest's one and only Alternative Hard Rock album) - 9
Nostradamus - Long winded, lost focus, eventhough there are some good compositions - 7
Jugulator & Demolition - APOS ! only first 2 songs are good, the rest are fillers - Both 4
(Yes, I dont think they have finished listening the full albums)
* Owen Ripper has a great voice. Unfortunately his talent is limited to singing other people's songs. He is not good at interpreting a new song in his own way. That's way he has never stay in any band for a longer period of time.

You don't think I've listened to the full albums? I'm one of the biggest Priest fans you're ever likely to find. I've listened to all their albums in full, many times, even the ones I consider to be weaker overall. I'd be willing to bet I've listened to them more than you have, for a start.

I've listened to both Jugulator and Demolition countless times, and think they are both fine albums, especially Jugulator as it's more consistent, and focussed. "Turbo" a masterpiece? Again, I have listened to this album in full many times over the years, and it forever remains a very weak entry in Priest's catalogue for me. I certainly don't dislike it, or hold it in the same contempt that some Priest fans did/do, but it's waaay off from being a masterpiece. I do enjoy most of the songs on the album, although around 3 of them are just abysmal. But in the Priest canon, it is definitely one of their weakest efforts. Priest have made some masterpieces in their time, like Sad Wings Of Destiny, and Stained Class, but Turbo certainly isn't in the same league as those albums.

And what you say about Tim Owens is just false. The reason why he didn't last in Priest or Iced Earth had zero to do with his vocal ability.

The only thing I'd agree with you about is what you said about Nostradamus.

I never thought I'd see the day that Turbo would be called a "masterpiece" but if you live long enough, I suppose anything is possible.

My god you are totally full of ****, aren't you?

If you want Motley Crue in Priest then Turbo might indeed be considered a great album.
And what are you on about ALternative Hard Rock, nothing alternative about any of Priest's works.

Oh it's the guy who thinks new In Flames sounds like Dark Tranquillity Clearly the guy to go to to talk about "genres."

Write coherent English and people might understand you, because once again you make zero sense at all. Just like all your other posts.

And apparently you can't read either, because nowhere did I say that you said Turbo sounded like Motley Crue. I said it was a Motley Crue Judas Priest sort of album. So, clearly crap, since Crue have always made crap music.

Yes I know what alternative entails, ffs I am probably way older than you and when alternative hit was in my mid twenties while you probably still had to be born.

to quote you from an earlier post where you mumbling along about Turbo:

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Dont keep on waiting for Rob's screaming, this is an Altenative Hard Rock

thus implying Turbo or maybe some other Priest albums can be considered alternative hard rock.

and your

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Pal, Read more..to improve your understanding skills.

is frankly hilarious because I most probably got more knowledge and understanding about metal in my left little toe than you in your entire body. Especially due to the fact I experienced most of it first hand unlike you who has to read about it in secondary and tertiary sources and probable gets most of his knowledge from forums on the internet, where every moron spouts his own opinions not hampered by any facts.

Written by Guest on 10.01.2013 at 17:48

Oh it's the guy who thinks new In Flames sounds like Dark Tranquillity Clearly the guy to go to to talk about "genres."

Well that's a riot.
I really don't like this album, I don't want to get mixed up in silly genre debates... just saying... I hate this album... a lot... ...

Written by Lustful Maid on 10.01.2013 at 09:46
1) Too much into it. Probably that's why you have lost your accurate judgements.
2) It depends you are looking Judas Priest in Judas Priest, Motley Crue in Judas Priest or Van Halen in Judas Priest. Dont keep on waiting for Rob's screaming, this is an Altenative Hard Rock. Expecting great performance from K.K and Glen is more practical.
3) Frankly, Tim's tempo in music is not that good. That's why he is in-borned a great singer but really failed to deliver the "feelings/atmosphere" to the fullest like what Rob is capable. There are many singers are weak in singing but good at delivering the "mood", making them a better singer.

1) Emm... no. If I was "too much into it" and that was affecting my judgement, I'd give equal praise to every album Priest have ever made. Or I'd childishly disown them for making albums which are below the standards of their best works. Seeing as neither of those things is the case, I'm certainly not "too much into" the band for it to cloud my objectivity. You on the other hand...

2) Alternative hard rock? Nothing Priest have made falls into that catergory, far less "Turbo", which is anything but alternative!

3) I would agree that Rob in his prime is better than Tim, but Rob at his best is better than 95% of metal vocalists ever, so that's no disservice to Tim. As for Iced Earth, Jon only fired Tim, because so many fans wanted Matt Barlow back in the band. I love Matt, but Tim did a fine job when he was in the band. Too many fans didn't even give him a chance.

Yes, it's pretty bad. I really like "Turbo Lover" (especially how they build up to the first chorus by adding more and heavier guitar) and "Reckless" is great. "Locked In" and "Out In The Cold" are good as well. The rest is pretty dire, except for maybe the pre-chorus to "Hot For Love". And let's not talk about the lyrics.

It's still a better album than Ram It Down.

You know, I do not have anything against this album, since I pretty much enjoy every rock/metal genre and sub-genre without being ashamed nor prejudiced. In the end tastes are tastes and I do not judge bands by their past records, I prefer to judge them by who they are now, in the present.

Judas Priest clealy went along with the 80s wave of glam rock/metal artists and wanted to attract some audience from this genre, Turbo is a much better album compared to what most of the classical glam bands came forward. While I do not go into extremes such as saying that Motley Crue makes crap music (since I pretty much liked what they did until 1989, with one of my favorites, Dr. Feelgood) simply because making music for an audience that you do no identify with does not give you the right to say what sucks and what doesn't, Judas Priest has the right to write their music how they want it to, they have the right to follow a trend as well. Turbo has some good moments, some bad moments as well, but it is not an album that sucks, but rather barely remains at the surface situating itself in a moderate position.

Also, Jugulator is one of the most underrated metal albums. It is underrated not because it "sucks", but mostly because there is no Rob Halford singing. Honestly, the thrashy aspect of the album is very appealing, and Owens has a brilliant performance, in his own way. Demolition was a let-down indeed, though even this one was a little bit exaggerated by Rob Halford's nostalgics.

As for Nostradamus, this album is just the beginning of a new approach. While it is not perfect, it leaves a lot of hope for improvement. Who knows, maybe they pull something better from this recipe with this upcoming album.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.05.2012 at 16:13

Written by Angelic Storm on 11.05.2012 at 16:00

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.05.2012 at 15:53
It used to be 4, but it''s more like 3.5

What is it about the album that stops you from giving it a 1 or a 2?

it is not THAT bad, they can still play their instruments...

Holy shit, you rated this a 3? Harsh. Your album votes must've been fuckin' awesome. When I joined this site you had already deleted all of your votes--I wish you had kept them so I could get an at-a-glance view of your opinion on a bunch of albums.

Written by Ace Frawley on 11.05.2012 at 06:30

Catchy songs but a long way from metal and the glory days of an album like Stained Class. Too much guitar synthesizer and cheesy lyrics.

So synthesizer produced inferior music ? Crap.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.11.2012 at 10:45

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 24.11.2012 at 13:02

Written by Ace Frawley on 12.05.2012 at 10:38


this is the worst Priest album ...

I totally disagree
The worst albums are recorded after 1990.

Turbo is their worst, closely followed by Nostradamus, both albums with Owens on vocals are masterpieces compared to both Turbo and Nostradamus

You're the worst masterpiece for saying this...
As a Priest fan since I was a baby, I've to say their first two 70's albums are so 21th century, and their early years with Sony are their worst moments, things start getting better and better after Screaming For Vengeance.

Worst album , maybe bets commercial album when band needs put out something to satfy all

Not a major disaster even if it has some stupid lyrics allround and the production has that overblown sound that was cool in the 80's. Parental Guidance is a contender for their worst song ever and Rock You All Around The World, Turbo Lover and Wild Nights, Hot And Crazy Days are straight away washaway tracks. The rest I think has something worthwhile about them even if Out in the Cold is the only track that can be considered classic Priest. To be fair I think it's one of their best tracks, a very nice atmospheric midtempo song that worked extremely well as a concert opener back in the day.

The album sounds like a sellout attempt for radio plays; I dunno if it made them more popular or gained them financially, I do know it's not good for the JP sound, it's not good for fans of their past music. Many of the songs just aren't good and Surprisingly the bonus song All Fired Up is better than most on the album.

Two other songs that are good: Turbo Lover and Out in the Cold. Turbo Lover could use rework on the chorus, but otherwise it sounds almost like a Judas Priest song.

Not one of the finest moments in Judas Priest's discography, the songwriting is at times appalling, and I didn't like the synth sound at all, and the drums sounded horrid. It was too mainstream sounding, so I think they tried to play this one safe, and it just wasn't Judas Priest. Most of the tracks were average, but there was some right shockers in there too. The quality from their previous album Defenders Of The Faith was well ahead of this.

I admire their willingness to step outside their comfort zone and try something completely different, but Turbo just isn't a good album. I like Out in the Cold, Reckless and maybe Turbo Lover, the rest is just meh.

I like this album.
Yes, I agree it's not their best work, true, but it's catchy and enjoyable for me from time to time. I still would rather listen to turbo than the Tim Ripper Owens era albums.

7.3 / 682 votes - that's about right if you ask me.