popmik
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Yeah.. Behemoth and their satanic lyrics lol
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Not even in dull, dreary Ohio is anyone safe from Religious conflicts.
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Valentin B Iconoclast
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Nuclear Blast must be drowning in cash from all this media attention :p
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CaptainJoeyLaw
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Columbus Resident here, honestly its a good move. I was planning on going to the show and I have never even heard of or know where the brewmasters gate is in downtown. I've never heard of a live show even being there before this one. Alrosa Villa however I've been too many times and its a great venue for metal shows. So all in all, not a big deal. I just hope the brewmasters gate owners realize this was likely their chance to get a lot of new people into their club and now that's not going to happen. Oh well.
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Dani5050
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I already said that its not America banning Behemoth its just a club owner in Ohio, but looks like they want to make it a publicity stunt.
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Paz 777 ElitePosts: 4006 |
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I thought that such things happen only in Poland...
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Ornusashas
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Written by Paz on 04.04.2012 at 21:38
I thought that such things happen only in Poland...
Nope, Ohio is full of bible-thumpers.
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Carl Berg Carl Berg
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Oh, you don't have the same religion as me? Go away!
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15288 |
Written by Dani5050 on 04.04.2012 at 20:52
I already said that its not America banning Behemoth its just a club owner in Ohio, but looks like they want to make it a publicity stunt.
talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill...
he is free to play, and the venue owner is free to host (or not host) whomever he chooses.
behemoth will play elsewhere, with free pub. hooray.
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Shaytaan666
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I am wondering what the hell the venue owners had thought of behemoth before they decided to kick it out of the tour
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15288 |
Written by Shaytaan666 on 04.04.2012 at 22:13
I am wondering what the hell the venue owners of The Brewmaster's Gate had thought of behemoth before they decided to kick it out of the tour
they probably were unaware who and what they were.
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Milena gloom cookie StaffPosts: 4603 |
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Actively and publicly proclaim hatred for a person's religion and then get surprised when a person of said religion says they don't want you in their venue. Wow indeed.
Banning anyone from anywhere based on simple difference in religious beliefs is stupid, but if you involve yourself in clear-cut hate speech, you shouldn't act all surprised when you receive some hate back. I wouldn't host NSBM bands in my venues if I had them, and these Christian people shouldn't apologize if they doesn't want to host anti-Christian bands in theirs. It's their private matter. Often, when people talk about the right to practice your religious beliefs, they often think their own religious beliefs alone.
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Cydfrey
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America is in no way a land of freedom.
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BenWasHere
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I live in Ohio
god damnit I hate religious people sometimes
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renai
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Zombie94
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Then the owner should have researched the bands before he booked them. Unless something happened AFTER they were booked to play e.g. the owner walked in on Nergal pissing on his copy of The Bible
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by BenWasHere on 05.04.2012 at 00:23
I live in Ohio
god damnit I hate religious people sometimes
they are just as annoying as the anit religious people such as Nergal.
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Written by Cydfrey on 04.04.2012 at 23:35
America is in no way a land of freedom.
The venue owner expressed his freedom as the owner of a private business and booted the bands.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15288 |
I really fail to see the issue.
The club owner still has the freedom to control who plays at his club... his freedom unimpeded.
Nergal still gets to play the city... his freedom unimpeded.
Behemoth gets a bunch of free publicity.
everyone wins.
i wonder if the same people ripping/whining about the club owner (or America?) are cool with inviting Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses in to their house to speak their beliefs? or does freedom only apply to the ability for your beliefs to be expressed? given the comments directed at Dane recently... i think to a lot around here it is merely a one way street. hooray for hypocrisy..
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Scuzzy McDouche
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Written by [user id=20536] on 05.04.2012 at 02:27
Written by Cydfrey on 04.04.2012 at 23:35
America is in no way a land of freedom.
The venue owner expressed his freedom as the owner of a private business and booted the bands.
Exactly...
I personally don't agree with christianity, and I believe that God himself is actually annoyed by most so-called christians. However, it is the club owner's right to say who plays there and who doesn't. If I was a christian, I wouldn't even consider having bands like Behemoth play at my place.
Anyway, Columbus, OH is the place where I've seen two of the best Mercyful Fate shows the band has ever played. There may be a lot of religious people in Ohio, but there are also a lot of metalheads there as well. Hell, one of my current favorite bands is from Ohio - Skeletonwitch.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Anti-religious metallers... the biggest hypocrites around
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.04.2012 at 01:57
Written by BenWasHere on 05.04.2012 at 00:23
I live in Ohio
god damnit I hate religious people sometimes
they are just as annoying as the anti religious people such as Nergal.
I couldn't agree more. They both feed off of ignorance.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
What's the big deal?
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PocketMetal
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.04.2012 at 01:57
Written by BenWasHere on 05.04.2012 at 00:23
I live in Ohio
god damnit I hate religious people sometimes
they are just as annoying as the anti religious people such as Nergal.
well said sir .
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BudDa ElitePosts: 887 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.04.2012 at 01:57
Written by BenWasHere on 05.04.2012 at 00:23
I live in Ohio
god damnit I hate religious people sometimes
they are just as annoying as the anit religious people such as Nergal.
I agree as well
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-Morbid-
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I don't have any problem with the club owners not wanting them to play there, I just think it's lame that they cancel the date a week before the tour starts and leave the tour organizers to scramble to find a different place for them to play.
They should have done their research about the bands before signing off on it, but I guess that would just make too much sense. :
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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Don't want to clear the beef about the club owner or America welcomes with warm heart, people still going fucking crazy over the kinda of musicianship Nergalhemoth is. Anyways
Quote: God, please save me from this freedom..."
is he now realizing what he did to bible?
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Vombatus Potorro
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Pffffff..... Nergal is getting so annoying.
It's not the first time a show changes venue (for whatever reason), and yet he feel the need to go crying around for everyone to know... Anything for free publicity :
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Promonex Cathemeral ElitePosts: 9720 |
The only problem I see is that the venue owner didn't do any research. What did he expect when booking a band called The Devil's Blood?
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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Written by BitterCOld on 05.04.2012 at 02:47 i wonder if the same people ripping/whining about the club owner (or America?) are cool with inviting Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses in to their house to speak their beliefs? or does freedom only apply to the ability for your beliefs to be expressed? given the comments directed at Dane recently... i think to a lot around here it is merely a one way street. hooray for hypocrisy..
I know I didn't rip on/whine about the club owner, but I personally have invited a Jehovah's Witness into my house even though I'm not religious in any way, and never will be.
About America, well yes of course it isn't really a "land of the free", but then again, nowhere on the planet is either.
Written by Promonex on 05.04.2012 at 18:29
The only problem I see is that the venue owner didn't do any research. What did he expect when booking a band called The Devil's Blood?
Well, yes, if the owner is a staunch Christian you'd expect he would do research when booking bands, especially extreme metal bands...
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