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Nice review Baz! I haven't snagged this yet but it's on the list now
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BudDa ElitePosts: 887 |
04.11.2009 - 18:10Rating: 7
I have never been bothered by their long boring songs. But like I said before, compared to the rest of the 2009 death metal releases, I find this one abit lacking. This would have been stellar if it were from another band..but this is Nile. I was slightly disappointed. I give it a 7
good review btw..
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Why not cut the album down to eight tracks and you will get a nice 45 minute long album.
Another problem is that since Kollias has joined the drumming isn't as varied as when Laureano was there and that of course doesn't help at all when playing long songs on a long album.
Kollias might be fast and brutal but he sure as hell isn't up there with a true great such as Laureano who doesn't rely on speed and brutality alone.
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spirit_inblack harshhead
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Marcel is right. Kollias can get utterly boring to these ears at times, but Laureano... look at what he even did with Nachtmystium. I find the drumming on Assassins to amazing, even though it's fairly simple.
Nuclear Blast... pretty much fucks over whoever signs to them. LOL!
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15303 |
04.11.2009 - 18:42Rating: 7
Put off buying this album because so much other good shit was at the store this week (Slayer, Harvestman, an old Drudkh record, Jesu, Saviours)... seems i made the right call in which to omit for the short run.
i will check it out down the line, but a couple phrases in the review touched on why i haven't been able to fully enjoy "Annihilation of the Wicked" and probably won't fully enjoy this one.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by spirit_inblack on 04.11.2009 at 18:38
Marcel is right. Kollias can get utterly boring to these ears at times, but Laureano... look at what he even did with Nachtmystium. I find the drumming on Assassins to amazing, even though it's fairly simple.
Nuclear Blast... pretty much fucks over whoever signs to them. LOL!
Nile fucked themselves up by getting Kollias.
And why is it people think Nuclear Blast dictates the sort of music a band has to play? They don't do that, not even Roadrunner does that. It is only majore labels that try and dictate the music a band has to play.
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spirit_inblack harshhead
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I was just being sarcastic, haha.
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VPeter
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Boring standard death metal who will surely give Nuclear Blast lot's of money again and a contender for the MS Death metal awards 2009.
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And so the question arises....why give the album an 8/10 if it was pointed out in the review that the album has little longevity? That doesnt justify a "very good" then does it? Personally I agree with what you said, but I think your rating is a way off, because the fact that it seems to be relatively unmemorable as a whole is spot on and therfor deserves a 6/10 instead of an inflated 8/10
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Damned-In-Black
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04.11.2009 - 21:57Rating: 6
Each paragraph opens with "It's great" and develops into "It's not that great"... There is very little description of the album except for a bit about the song lengths. I could apply this review to almost every Nile album, with little alteration. Hopefully this won't be taken as anything other than constructive. It's fairly well written as a whole. Being more descriptive and/or less repetitive could be an improvement, though.
As for the album. 6/10 from me at this point, but I've only listened a few times and my opinion may change. It's an improvement on their previous one.
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Solstafir!
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04.11.2009 - 22:17Rating: 8
Another solid album by Nile, nothing groundbreaking though, but still beats Behemoth's Evangelion in my opinion..,found the opener, Kafir! very cheesy...
My fav track : Hittite Dung Incantation.
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arj
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05.11.2009 - 00:39Rating: 9
Kill me now, but this album is the only one of Nile that I like :
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Written by [user id=1909] on 04.11.2009 at 20:24
And so the question arises....why give the album an 8/10 if it was pointed out in the review that the album has little longevity? That doesnt justify a "very good" then does it? Personally I agree with what you said, but I think your rating is a way off, because the fact that it seems to be relatively unmemorable as a whole is spot on and therfor deserves a 6/10 instead of an inflated 8/10
I think he meant that it doesn't have quite the longevity as it potentially could, not that it doesn't have any at all or would become boring in a couple of weeks.
As for myself though I can't wait to get my hands on this album. Regarding Kollias, I don't understand the criticism of him, I think he's a great drummer. More or less as good as Nile's previous ones.
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
05.11.2009 - 03:43Rating: 7
Just finished listening to it for the first time and loved it. Nevertheless, it's too early to tell whether or not I disagree with your score and since that is at the heart of nearly all of my comments on reviews, I have little to say about this album thus far. "Those Whom the Gods Detest" and "Utterances of the Crawling Dead" are two of the most exciting tracks I have heard this year though.
On a separate note, where is all of this Kollias hate coming from? I may not be a drum connoisseur, but let's not get out of hand here. The guy is great and the mechanical perfection/speed suits Nile and Karl's guitar style wonderfully.
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Written by [user id=1909] on 04.11.2009 at 20:24
And so the question arises....why give the album an 8/10 if it was pointed out in the review that the album has little longevity? That doesnt justify a "very good" then does it? Personally I agree with what you said, but I think your rating is a way off, because the fact that it seems to be relatively unmemorable as a whole is spot on and therfor deserves a 6/10 instead of an inflated 8/10
It's a question of opinion man, people interpret ratings differently. Personally, I just read on what important facts the reviewer has to point out about a particular album and get a much more detailed opinion than a number, 6 ! or 8 ! The rating shit is taken way too seriously, imo.
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
05.11.2009 - 07:13Rating: 7
Written by Visioneerie on 05.11.2009 at 05:17
Written by [user id=1909] on 04.11.2009 at 20:24
And so the question arises....why give the album an 8/10 if it was pointed out in the review that the album has little longevity? That doesnt justify a "very good" then does it? Personally I agree with what you said, but I think your rating is a way off, because the fact that it seems to be relatively unmemorable as a whole is spot on and therfor deserves a 6/10 instead of an inflated 8/10
It's a question of opinion man, people interpret ratings differently. Personally, I just read on what important facts the reviewer has to point out about a particular album and get a much more detailed opinion than a number, 6 ! or 8 ! The rating shit is taken way too seriously, imo.
If it weren't for the amount of tragic fun I have rating albums (and organizing said ratings), I would be all for the elimination of the numerical album rating system. Then again, the number rating system does serve a variety of organizational purposes.
By the way, does anyone else hear the Hammer Smashed Face intro riff in the intro riff to "Utterances of the Crawling Dead"?
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15303 |
05.11.2009 - 08:29Rating: 7
Written by [user id=1909] on 04.11.2009 at 20:24
And so the question arises....why give the album an 8/10 if it was pointed out in the review that the album has little longevity? That doesnt justify a "very good" then does it? Personally I agree with what you said, but I think your rating is a way off, because the fact that it seems to be relatively unmemorable as a whole is spot on and therfor deserves a 6/10 instead of an inflated 8/10
"Take out the twenty most tedious minutes of this otherwise long death metal album, and we could have been staring at the best album the band have ever put out."
"When Nile are on the ball, they absolutely kill it. The good thing about Those Whom The Gods Detest is that the band are on the ball more than they have been for the best part of a decade."
i don't know. those sentences pretty much indicate Baz had an extremely favorable opinion of most the album. somewhere between "best they've ever done" (10) and an album of filler (5 to 6 if executed as well as Nile are capable of) and you get... an 8 or so.
8 for you is "inflated", 8 for many on this site sucks.
i can see why Baz might score it an 8 based solely on the description. blistering parts that are jawdropping... and a some filler thrown in because the band gets over-ambitious.
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05.11.2009 - 08:52Rating: 10
I agree with you Baz.
And I think Behemoth's "Evangelion" is better than "Those Whom The Gods Detest"
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Written by BitterCOld on 05.11.2009 at 08:29
8 for you is "inflated", 8 for many on this site sucks.
Fair enough, I sort of try and give ratings according to their catagorization on MS with and 8 meaning very good and 6 average.
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Written by wormdrink414 on 05.11.2009 at 07:13
Written by Visioneerie on 05.11.2009 at 05:17
Written by [user id=1909] on 04.11.2009 at 20:24
And so the question arises....why give the album an 8/10 if it was pointed out in the review that the album has little longevity? That doesnt justify a "very good" then does it? Personally I agree with what you said, but I think your rating is a way off, because the fact that it seems to be relatively unmemorable as a whole is spot on and therfor deserves a 6/10 instead of an inflated 8/10
It's a question of opinion man, people interpret ratings differently. Personally, I just read on what important facts the reviewer has to point out about a particular album and get a much more detailed opinion than a number, 6 ! or 8 ! The rating shit is taken way too seriously, imo.
If it weren't for the amount of tragic fun I have rating albums (and organizing said ratings), I would be all for the elimination of the numerical album rating system. Then again, the number rating system does serve a variety of organizational purposes.
Same here, I enjoy rating albums but I also think it would perhaps be better if it were eliminated due to the randomness of people's interpretation on it. I for one wont give 10's very easily because not ever album in the world can be the best...it just doesnt make sense to do it so I give a lot more 7's which means it is "good". But yeah, I suppose it is being taken a little seriously.
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Khaldi
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05.11.2009 - 10:29Rating: 10
Currently this album is a my favorite number 1 .
at present I dont have a time to read review completely .
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Tatras
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05.11.2009 - 10:40Rating: 9
Best Death Metal album of 2009 year. It's brilliant album form me, maybe 1 h long, but if you hear such punishing music you can hear it over 2h long... It is one of 3 best albums by Nile in my opinion, better than Ithypalic and on the same or maybe better than "Anihillation of The Wicked"... for me it 10/10.
Year 2009 is great year for death Metal... Behemoth, Nile, Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation, Asphyx, Vader, Blood Red Throne, Azarath, Lost Soul... all this bands put out such great albums in current year!!
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TormentoR.
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Stfu spoiled brats :S jfc
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HiF
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05.11.2009 - 22:04Rating: 7
Can anybody tell me what rating did this album get in Decibel Magazine review?
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Opethian
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06.11.2009 - 06:30Rating: 8
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The DungonMaster
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I think that the review of Nile's new album is a tad off the mark. I like their long epic songs, and the longer a nile album is the better. Yes I like the quick fast jams, but nothing beats the long doomy parts that they add to their albums. Nile, do what you do, cause I know you do it well! No complaints and keep the albums coming!:mad7:
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Motionless
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If you want short songs go listen to Anal cunt. I like their songs being long and elaborate. Kolias is among the top 5 drummers at death metal and he is extremely technical. So is Laureanno. The album is by far the best death metal release of 2009 along with Ulcerates new album.
EPIC ALBUM
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Solstafir!
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06.11.2009 - 15:51Rating: 8
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Opethian
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07.11.2009 - 01:12Rating: 8
I cant believe that there are people actually crying, whining on this album, Nile just kicked the Crap out of 2009 ! As far as Death Metal goes
LOL i cant wait to read the review for the new Slayer album, It will probably sound something like this " Slayer = Kings, Kerry is the #1 guitarist in the world, oh yeah by far "World Painted Blood" (What a BRUTAL album title isn't it) kills anything else that has came out this year" .... FAIL
Knowing how many other great bands are out there, and till this day ppl still get sucked in by anything that Slayer releases F@#$K Slayer and the Horse that they rode in on ..
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