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14.07.2011 - 13:39Rating: 10
What a horrible review. You instantly lose all credibility for calling The Black Dahlia Murder a deathcore band. You should also know that the lead guitarist for TBDM is Ryan Knight, who was with Arsis when they recorded We Are The Nightmare, hence the desire to listen to Arsis. If you can't find something interesting to listen to on this album then you're clearly not a big fan of fresh melodic death metal. This albums is one of the best albums so far this year.
Excellent songwriting, great riffs, killer drum performance, and a unique sound (Trevor Strnad's vocals are quite different from a vast majority of people).
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14.07.2011 - 14:42Rating: 9
Calling them deathcore is pretty ignorant tbh, I don't even know why some people label them as a deathcore band... there's plenty of good stuff going on in this album, even though I must admit that it's not their best.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Indeed deathcore it's not but calling this "fresh melodic death metal" is totally ludicrous. nothing fresh about it.
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Megi
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Lol @ this band called deathcore
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munson
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14.07.2011 - 17:44Rating: 10
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 16:09
Indeed deathcore it's not but calling this "fresh melodic death metal" is totally ludicrous. nothing fresh about it.
Fresh, in my use of the word does not mean "unique" or anything, it's just new. New as in released not long ago.
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I don't know man....this release is getting pretty wide spread praise for being alot better then their last effort, which was fricken great. Ah well, guess its not every bodies cup of tea
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by munson on 14.07.2011 at 17:44
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 16:09
Indeed deathcore it's not but calling this "fresh melodic death metal" is totally ludicrous. nothing fresh about it.
Fresh, in my use of the word does not mean "unique" or anything, it's just new. New as in released not long ago.
Then you're using the word all wrong in this context
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Written by munson on 14.07.2011 at 13:39
What a horrible review. You instantly lose all credibility for calling The Black Dahlia Murder a deathcore band. You should also know that the lead guitarist for TBDM is Ryan Knight, who was with Arsis when they recorded We Are The Nightmare, hence the desire to listen to Arsis. If you can't find something interesting to listen to on this album then you're clearly not a big fan of fresh melodic death metal. This albums is one of the best albums so far this year.
Excellent songwriting, great riffs, killer drum performance, and a unique sound (Trevor Strnad's vocals are quite different from a vast majority of people).
you lost all credibility when you called them melodic death metal.
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Written by munson on 14.07.2011 at 13:39
What a horrible review.
I agree on that.
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The Benighted
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14.07.2011 - 18:34Rating: 9
Saw the review on the front page and thought, "This man just lost all credibility for calling TBDM deathcore." Came in to the review and saw everyone had it covered. What defines deathcore and what defines melodic death metal are fairly different, so you should probably invest some time into figuring out the details before making a review.
Great album, in my opinion, with some of the strongest songwriting in their back catalog. I'd put this on par with Nocturnal for their best album.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
And they aren't melodic death metal either/
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The Benighted
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14.07.2011 - 18:40Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:39
And they aren't melodic death metal either/
Yes, actually they are. I'm interested in hearing what you think they are though.
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Written by The Benighted on 14.07.2011 at 18:40
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:39
And they aren't melodic death metal either/
Yes, actually they are. I'm interested in hearing what you think they are though.
What people call Metalcore nowadays.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Yeah, what Marcel said.
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The Benighted
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14.07.2011 - 18:48Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:44
Written by The Benighted on 14.07.2011 at 18:40
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:39
And they aren't melodic death metal either/
Yes, actually they are. I'm interested in hearing what you think they are though.
What people call Metalcore nowadays.
I don't know if I'd call them metalcore, considering the Gothenburg influences (they're heavily influenced by At the Gates) and lack of breakdowns. Breakdowns are pretty much the staple of deathcore and metalcore, which I feel is a pretty good indicator. I can see where you're coming from though.
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Written by The Benighted on 14.07.2011 at 18:48
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:44
Written by The Benighted on 14.07.2011 at 18:40
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:39
And they aren't melodic death metal either/
Yes, actually they are. I'm interested in hearing what you think they are though.
What people call Metalcore nowadays.
I don't know if I'd call them metalcore, considering the Gothenburg influences (they're heavily influenced by At the Gates) and lack of breakdowns. Breakdowns are pretty much the staple of deathcore and metalcore, which I feel is a pretty good indicator. I can see where you're coming from though.
And Gothenburg actually his not melodic deth metal although people seem to think so, because that music has next to nothing in common with death metal.
reakdowns are also a staple of thrash so that's saying nothing.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:50
And Gothenburg actually his not melodic deth metal although people seem to think so, because that music has next to nothing in common with death metal.
reakdowns are also a staple of thrash so that's saying nothing.
Gosh I hate those misconceptions as well. Gothenburg clearly has more stuff to do with thrash than death metal. Also... You can even listen to breakdowns in OLD SCHOOL death metal from time to time...
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Maybe once the vocalist goes through puberty and his balls drop he will sound better than whiny, strained and weak
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The Benighted
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14.07.2011 - 19:36Rating: 9
Written by X-Ray Rod on 14.07.2011 at 19:25
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 18:50
And Gothenburg actually his not melodic deth metal although people seem to think so, because that music has next to nothing in common with death metal.
reakdowns are also a staple of thrash so that's saying nothing.
Gosh I hate those misconceptions as well. Gothenburg clearly has more stuff to do with thrash than death metal. Also... You can even listen to breakdowns in OLD SCHOOL death metal from time to time...
I'm not saying that old school death metal didn't have breakdowns, but the way they're used today in metalcore and deathcore is completely different. It's all about context.
Yes there's a general amount of thrash in Gothenburg, but all death metal has a good amount of thrash, not just that specific sub-genre. It all originated in thrash. To say it's more one than the other makes no sense considering where it all came from.
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I guess I'll be the first to say it, great review Doc, especially likening the album to a loaf of plain white bread. Brilliant.
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Another bullshit review on another awesome album. Way to go, Doc, you've hit a new low!
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Opinions are happening on the internet again!
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I personally love these guys, all the musicians are amazingly talented, ripping on these guys is like a sin.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
I see all the fanboys being pissed off again
Did doc say it was shitty? NO, he did not.
It's just pointless listening to this band for their are a gazillion better bands out there.
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Ok Doc, this is clearly not your best review on this site. First you didn't seem to take time to really acknowledge what the band is and what genre it is playing. I saw them live and they are not Deathcore at all more like thrash influenced Metalcore or what I call New Wave of American Metal...That means they are in the same category as Lamb of God, Shadows Fall et al. That doesn't mean they are similar but they have the same features: Thrash riffs, Melo leads, breakdowns, Hardcore-type Screamed vocals.
Then, you seem to undermine the good aspects of the album by saying they attract you to other bands...But when I listen to a new album I almost always recognize some similarities with other bands and that doesn't make the album weaker so I can't understand how it is a bad thing in itself. I mean, if the band is copying a lead or a riff in it's entirety then it is problem, but if it is only an influence I can't see how it is a problem. Every artist in this world has influences...I also don't see the point of the Hannah Montana reference in the context you used it. It looks more like you didn't want to like the album before you listened to it which is not very good when you want to write a good review. i mean I know total objectivity is impossible, but you gotta be honest at least...Not judge the album by what you think it's gonna sound like before you listen to it...
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 21:49
It's just pointless listening to this band for their are a gazillion better bands out there.
Nope, I don't think there are "gazillion better bands out there", they are the best in their genre, Melodeath? Death-Metalcore? Melodicdeathcore? you name it. One of the best albums in this year IMO, and it surely doesn't deserve this stupid review.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Who really gives a shit which genre the album is pigeonholed into? it's funny that stupid tag gets 90% of the comments and outrage rather than his opinions on the album itself.
deathcore.
tdm.
sludge.
slamzydecocore.
doesn't matter.
the part of the review that matters is his thoughts on the actual music itself... the whitebread part.
continue your regularly scheduled whining though.
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Have to agree that seeing you call this band deathcore made me lose all respect for you as a music critic because these guys are clearly not deathcore and imo never have been. Have they used breakdown? Yes. Have those breakdowns been the big bass drop slow shitty bob up and down breakdowns that deathcore and metalcore bands are known for having? Absolutely not. So they are far from -core anything as far as I'm concerned. Melodic death metal? Definintely. They have much more in common with death metal than thrash and -core and they are melodic. And imo this album is definitely one of their best yet.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by [user id=28526] on 14.07.2011 at 22:12
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 21:49
It's just pointless listening to this band for their are a gazillion better bands out there.
Nope, I don't think there are "gazillion better bands out there", they are the best in their genre, Melodeath? Death-Metalcore? Melodicdeathcore? you name it. One of the best albums in this year IMO, and it surely doesn't deserve this stupid review.
One of the best albums this year? By that statement it's as if you haven't heard a single new release this year
And yes I have heard the entire album. It's boring, bland, done to death generic modern day metalcore. Overproduced clinical stuff without a bite.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 22:27
Written by [user id=28526] on 14.07.2011 at 22:12
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2011 at 21:49
It's just pointless listening to this band for their are a gazillion better bands out there.
Nope, I don't think there are "gazillion better bands out there", they are the best in their genre, Melodeath? Death-Metalcore? Melodicdeathcore? you name it. One of the best albums in this year IMO, and it surely doesn't deserve this stupid review.
One of the best albums this year? By that statement it's as if you haven't heard a single new release this year
And yes I have heard the entire album. It's boring, bland, done to death generic modern day metalcore. Overproduced clinical stuff without a bite.
Hahaha yeah actually it's the only album I've heard this year, and It kickass, boring? bland? well it's your opinion and am sure there are many people will disagree with you, did you even heard some of their old albums to compare it with this one?
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