musclassia StaffPosts: 7640 |
21.03.2012 - 20:14Rating: 8
Fair enough review, understandable you wouldn't be too excited over it if you're not a big prog fan. Me liking prog probably helps make up the extra point and a bit between the scores. Still, good review.
I would say though that Opeth isn't the band that immediately springs to mind listening to both this and, to a lesser extent, their previous album. I hear quite a strong Amorphis tinge in their music - probably not all that surprising given they have two ex-Amorphis members (I think?)
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21.03.2012 - 21:04Rating: 7
Written by musclassia on 21.03.2012 at 20:14
Fair enough review, understandable you wouldn't be too excited over it if you're not a big prog fan. Me liking prog probably helps make up the extra point and a bit between the scores. Still, good review.
I would say though that Opeth isn't the band that immediately springs to mind listening to both this and, to a lesser extent, their previous album. I hear quite a strong Amorphis tinge in their music - probably not all that surprising given they have two ex-Amorphis members (I think?)
I feel the same way. I do see some similarities with Opeth, but Amorphis is what really jumps out at me with Barren Earth. Good Review, especially from the point of view of someone who isn't a huge prog fan. I thought it was funny that "As It Is Written" got such harsh words, when it is my favorite song on the album, for the exact reason that it was bashed. O well, to each their own!
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I will most likely buy this album next month...I like the first one
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21.03.2012 - 21:49Rating: 9
Written by MeloDeathViking on 21.03.2012 at 21:04
I thought it was funny that "As It Is Written" got such harsh words, when it is my favorite song on the album, for the exact reason that it was bashed.
Agree with the more old Amorphis feel than Opeth, only "Oriental pyre" brings more similarities to Opeth than Amorphis. "As it is written" is also my favorite from the album .
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21.03.2012 - 22:01Rating: 7
I don't listen to terribly much in the genre. i do listen to Opeth, have not listened to Amorphis, so to my ear it was the easiest point of comparison.
i also figure those unfamiliar with this band will more likely be familiar with Opeth, as they're about the biggest band in metal. safer bet than Amorphis.
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I think the review of the debut attracted a bunch of "it sounds like Amorphis not Opeth" comments too... at any rate I've only heard this record in bits and pieces but it didn't draw me in like the debut did which was a surprise hit of *whatever year it was released in*. A few nice leads here and there but it just seems a bit too haphazard.
I didn't get any modern Katatonia from this though.
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Written by [user id=35732] on 21.03.2012 at 22:46
For example the chorus for "White Fields". And in general Mikko's tone of voice spiced with some of those churning keyboards.
I can see occasionally vocal similarity perhaps yeah.
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Emerson, Lake & Palmer in middle of track 4...
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22.03.2012 - 20:27Rating: 7
Fair rating - bit dissapointed by this release as sometimes there's too much happening and it doesn't flow well. A few cool tracks but too many mediocre ones that do nothing for me.
Expected a more solid release
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23.03.2012 - 03:28Rating: 7
Get a gun before an Opeth fan finds you
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
24.03.2012 - 17:36Rating: 8
I am wondering if someone who is luke-warm to cold about a specific metal genre should be givin the task of reviewing its releases? Especially monumental ones like this? Doom metal is not my brand of vodka, so should I have the responsibility to review Esoteric?
Anyone get what I am saying?
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
24.03.2012 - 17:46Rating: 7
Written by tea[m]ster on 24.03.2012 at 17:36
I am wondering if someone who is luke-warm to cold about a specific metal genre should be givin the task of reviewing its releases? Especially monumental ones like this? Doom metal is not my brand of vodka, so should I have the responsibility to review Esoteric?
Anyone get what I am saying?
why not? i can still formulate an opinion and lay out my thoughts, as well as appreciate quality musicianship, etc. challenging yourself is a good thing.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
24.03.2012 - 17:52Rating: 8
Written by BitterCOld on 24.03.2012 at 17:46
why not? i can still formulate an opinion and lay out my thoughts, as well as appreciate quality musicianship, etc. challenging yourself is a good thing.
Thanks for not crushing me Craig. I am not saying your not capable - I love all your shit - and I am not trying to single you out personally but whats to say some reviewers don't have a hidden agenda or a bias deep down that seeps into a review?
I get that feeling whenever Rolling Stone Mag talks about Rush lol.
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Quote: I get that feeling whenever Rolling Stone Mag talks about Rush lol.
I've seen that too! What has Rolling Stone got against Rush anyway? Whatever, since they lost whatever remaining credibility they had by holding an American Idol contest and coming up with the Sheepdogs. A cover spot on their magazine for a group that only 6 people in Saskatoon had ever heard of?
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by tea[m]ster on 24.03.2012 at 17:36 Anyone get what I am saying?
Ya, and it's probably the most annoying argument I come across as a reviewer.
I remember I reviewed a folk metal album last year and gave it an 8. Everyone who checked it out loved it and had plenty of positive things to say (about the review and the music). I hate folk metal. I even mentioned it in the review. But I can still write objectively. Subjectively maybe I dislike the latest Barren Earth, but objectively I can look at it and point out its pros and cons.
If someone requests me to review a power metal album, I don't mind writing a review. But it's not going to be the same as maybe Lyrinan or Baz reviewing it because they have more knowledge about the genre so they can compare it and critique it better. Are we only supposed to review genres we're most familiar with?
I'm not really looking for a response because it's just off-topic, but these are just my thoughts on your post.
Long story short, if we feel like we aren't "man enough" for the job, we'll pass it on. Nobody here writes a review they're uncomfortable with (unless it's a newcomer's mistake or something).
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
25.03.2012 - 22:45Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 06:35
I'm not really looking for a response because it's just off-topic, but these are just my thoughts on your post.
Again, I never said Craig wasn't a skilled reviewer. Pretending their is no youtube, myspace players, soundcloud, etc., and I am teetering whether to spend $15 dollars on an album, I want input from someone with more experiance in that field.
Posting two reviews would be awesome: neutral and lawful, outsider and insider, call it whatever you want...
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
26.03.2012 - 11:47Rating: 7
As part of the proggy crowd I have to say I didn't find much that exciting about this. Nice combination of Amorphis and Opeth, a few good tracks but overall not that impressive. I'd rate it roughly similar to what you've got there.
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26.03.2012 - 23:36Rating: 7
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Written by tea[m]ster on 25.03.2012 at 22:45
and I am teetering whether to spend $15 dollars on an album, I want input from someone with more experiance in that field.
Posting two reviews would be awesome: neutral and lawful, outsider and insider, call it whatever you want...
One opinion from a proggy reviewer: he nailed it on the head with the description except for not mentioning Amorphis, which is understandable because he doesn't listen to Amorphis. I'd probably rate it around 0.5-0.7 higher, liking some stuff he disliked a lot more (As It Is Written being the strongest point on the album and all for me), but overall the things he wrote stand.
If you liked the first one a lot, you'll probably going to like this too, there's less catchiness but more notes. The "more notes"-thing doesn't affect my perception, but less catchiness kinda does; none of the people I know have been completely blown away by the album, although it is a very solid piece of work. So it's up to you.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
27.03.2012 - 03:14Rating: 8
Written by Milena on 26.03.2012 at 23:36
So it's up to you.
Mora, thanks for the synopsis. I really loved their debut record so I can't wait to spin this thing!
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
The music is not bad, but I really don't liek the vocals, specially the growls. *yawn*
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 30.05.2012 at 17:18
The music is not bad, but I really don't liek the vocals, specially the growls. *yawn*
Hey, it's BoxCar Willy's first album, give him a break man!
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Written by [user id=4365] on 30.05.2012 at 17:27
Written by X-Ray Rod on 30.05.2012 at 17:18
The music is not bad, but I really don't liek the vocals, specially the growls. *yawn*
Hey, it's BoxCar Willy's first album, give him a break man!
... Well played dude.
*high-five*
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 30.05.2012 at 17:29
... Well played dude.
*high-five*
Seriously though, this album was a let down, but the debut album is still a great modern, kick in the balls for the genre.
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