A mistake such as this should never happen cause a coach never shouts what lane to go into. For skaters such as Kramer this pure automated stuff. Kramer just gave an interview for Dutch television and was of course down but good and calm as well.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.02.2010 at 00:01

Damn it wasn't the skater's fault. The idiotic coach shouted he had to go into the inner lane. Okay, coach will certainly be fired after such a blunder.

Can you find video in youtube what hepen? I miss this out

Written by Bad English on 24.02.2010 at 00:28

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.02.2010 at 00:01

Damn it wasn't the skater's fault. The idiotic coach shouted he had to go into the inner lane. Okay, coach will certainly be fired after such a blunder.

Can you find video in youtube what hepen? I miss this out

Don't you have it in the late News? Maybe CNN? Eurosport?

Written by Koen Smits on 24.02.2010 at 00:32

Written by Bad English on 24.02.2010 at 00:28

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.02.2010 at 00:01

Damn it wasn't the skater's fault. The idiotic coach shouted he had to go into the inner lane. Okay, coach will certainly be fired after such a blunder.

Can you find video in youtube what hepen? I miss this out

Don't you have it in the late News? Maybe CNN? Eurosport?

I would prefere Europsort2 news, because STV told something but my swedish is week

Suisse 3-2 Bellorussia in penalty shoot out(2-1)

Thank's Suisse for making my day Im happy Luka?enko is pissed of like litle boy when Santa stoll his toy , even penalty shoot out was luck, but still its good and hard game, was close, unfortunatly non of TV shown it

USA-Suisse
I think its be close, fats game, but USA will win this one, I think USSA are planning go to final

Other pairs:(first who in my thoughts take qual to 1/4

Finish player Piktanen got one game ban after he done elegal hit to Patrik Horqvist and got 5+20 penalty , it mifght Finland cost place in 1/2 but he' isnt thet who is not replaceble

Finland-Czceh/Latvia
Russia-Canada/Germany
Sweden-Slovakia/Norway

@K7, it will most probably be somewhere on Youtube cause Dutch tv does coverage of the speedskating for the organising committee with 29 cameras.
Dutch showed a gazillion times from a coupe of different angles.

What happens is... Kramer passes his coach Kemkers at the spot where they cross to the other lane. Kemkers is showing Kramer that he has a lead of 2.9 seconds on Lee. All of a sudden Kemkers points towards the inner lane and shouts "naar binnen, naar binnen" (meaning "go to the inner lane, go to the inner lane") the microphones picked this up when you amplify them. Just when Kramer is about to go in the the bend of the outer lane he changes quickly towards the inner lane throwing his leg over the cone which marks where the bend starts.
Kramer skates on, but the crowd realises what has just happened and go pretty quite (most of the crowd are Dutch). You see from the expression on the face of coach Kemkers he also releasises what has just happened and that it is his fault. Kramer keeps on skating and fnishes a little over 4 secopnds ahead of Lee. But because he was quite a bit into the zone he hasn't realised he has been disqualified and of course cheers. Soon after it dawns on him what has happened some small 4 minutes earlier and he explodes in disappointment.

Some ten minutes later after the race Dutch tv interviews Kramer and asks him what has just happened. And he says he heard his coach shout that he had to go to the inner lane but he thought he had to go into the outer lane. But thinking that his coach is most probably right he does go into the inner lane.... and bye bye gold. Which would have been The Netherland's 100th gold at both the winter and summer olympic games.
Kramer is still only 23 so still will have a chance in 4 years time in Russia, but still... winning this gold would have made him an immortal skater already now.

The weird thing is that coaches never tell the skater what lane to go into cause the skaters know that by heart having skated that many matches. So, Kemkers probably blacked out.
Btw in Calgary 1988 Kemkers fell during his own race over 10k but still managed to come in 5th.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.02.2010 at 01:30

@K7, it will most probably be somewhere on Youtube cause Dutch tv does coverage of the speedskating for the organising committee with 29 cameras.
Dutch showed a gazillion times from a coupe of different angles.

I saw it in Swewdish Tv just some minutes ago, even I would prefere comentar english, but now I see what heppened , damn its such sad and also foolish mistace, it shoodnt hepened

Damn in test ride in Bosbelght Miņins felth and our coach Sandis Prūsis sad, he's anry whit him, because he thinks about him self not team(but sorry if people was week ago stomack surgery and its logical he thought about his stomack not how ride best) another inside shit in our bobsleght kitchen :fuck:
its be ''nice'' read after OG interwiews and press/media generaly about it
Im happy so far for 2 silver medals

LOL and Belgian female riders sad he's a God LOL they ride whit his old viecle(or what it calls)

ELOHIR - We meet again, and this tike in more fucked up time 5:00 I think it will end 7-1

Written by Bad English on 24.02.2010 at 02:20

ELOHIR - We meet again, and this tike in more fucked up time 5:00 I think it will end 7-1

if only you were right...

i thought i will suffer a heart attack during the over time...

Yeah, nice results. Ivan Skobrev won Silver medal in Speedskating! Hurrrraaaaaaah!
Yesturday our women won 1st place in 4 on 6 Biathlon relay! Sleptsova, Zaytseva, Dedvedtseva... You were great!
Domnina and Shabalin - Bronze medal in Sporting dances.
I think that Novitski and Khohlova danced well.

Written by Ellrohir on 24.02.2010 at 08:14

Written by Bad English on 24.02.2010 at 02:20

ELOHIR - We meet again, and this tike in more fucked up time 5:00 I think it will end 7-1

if only you were right...

i thought i will suffer a heart attack during the over time...

Man Czcehs shood play like Canadians because 2-0 is not enought for ewin, because it was I dont know what was it and you're not only one who got heart attack, now I need buy new coffe, I drunk week limit during the game LOL

The most ridiculous thing is, that exactly the same happened to us in group stage...and it was even with exactly the same opponent...wonder what the hell they thought after first period...

Canada 8-2 Germany
What a game, realy awesome, fast and interesting, seems Canada show all enger to germany team, when one guy shot goal, puck brakes net LOL what a shot it was and poor Crosby miss penalty but how he put stick and after Iginla shoot puck goes in, I like how Canada plays, I always liked Canadain style

Damn belorusian coach pisses me of he sa dhe hopes Canada loose because they know only how broke noses , what an asshole, after Bel kick out canadain couch they start pissed people of, they shood not play in Next OG Lv, Suisse, Danmark, Norway, Germany , not bellorussia , whit out Canadain coach what worked there they wont be where thety are and maybe if he be there they be in 1/4

Latvia 2-3 Czceh Rep(OT)
I almoust got herat attack if Masaļskis wont be at goal Czehs would scoe more and they almoust made tragedy for owen country, like I sad if you lead 2-0 push hard till get 5-0 like Canadains do, because latvai get beck 2 goals and might win game, and if theyw in its be tragedy for Czceh hockey and maybe ist be better because this all teams can be in 1/4 are boring, IMO Torino formath was better 2 groops 6 teams(not 3 groops 4 like now) and 4 from each go to 1/4 2 last go home

Slovakia 4-3 Norway
It was scary because I think Svk just didnt play how they can, there no motivation play because theys hood win Norway whit this team what they have there ok many Norvegians play in Elitserien but Sweeds take only 2 players + goaly from Elitserien so whit this team Svk shood won whit no wories and again who needs those play ofs non of BIG teams and IIHF and OG organsiations shoot made Torino formath in next one

1/4
USA-Suisse
I think its be close, fats game, but USA will win this one, I think USSA are planning go to final

Russia-Canada
Its be close game, mayeb even boring because price is hight, and for Canada where allw ates gold its might be pain, but hmm I dont thibk they loose to Rus 2 times in row + also in Torino, heremight be help from referee, because all wants see Canada and both team has good players, skilled its be so close you never know, only who get help of LUCK will win

Finland-Czceh Rep
One more pain in as game, Ruutu vs Jagr remeber Torino , this time might be diferent and I cant tell who will win, Czcehs has good defense and good players, contra tack and goal, Fin has good tachtics and follow to shemes what as child thay learn when training,
A lot of depends of Kiprussoff and Vocoun

Sweden-Slovakia
another triller, okj Swe has better team on paper , swe ploayers play in better teams and ion all teams where they play they play main rolle, Svk has lil weeker players if we look teams where they play, but still its good quality and even many moved from NHL to Europe, you cant lost skills like you cant forgot how to swimm. IMO best
IMO main better think what tehy can use is goalies Jaroslav Halak and Ivan Budaj (Rostislav Stana is weeker goaly)is better how Gusyafsson, Liv and Lundqvist
But Sweedshave thinsk what they can use it, look at forvards, and its be again close game, we will see I think sweden will win

Both teams its be last for Pfalfy, Demitra, ?atan, Forbergf, Alfredson, Modin, Ohlund(maybe), Johannson


BTW here is who got wrights brodcast hockey

TV Listings
The following broadcasters cover the 2010 Olympic Winter Games:


Europe - Eurosport
Europe - Eurovision (internet)
Eurosport and Eurovision cover the following countries in and around Europe: Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Armenia, Aruba, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Falkland Islands, Faroe Islands, Finland, France, French Guyana, French Polynesia, French Southern Territories, Georgia, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Greenland, Guadeloupe, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lebanon, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Martinique, Mayotte, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles, New Caledonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Réunion, Romania, Russia, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, United Kingdom, Uzbekistan, Vatican, Wallis and Futuna


National broadcasters:
Argentina - Terra
Australia - Foxtel
Australia - Nine
Austria - ORF
Belarus -TVR
Belgium - RTBF
Belgium - VRT
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Brazil - Terra
Bulgaria - BNT
Canada - CTV
Canada - RDS
Chile - Terra
China - CCTV
Chinese Taipei - ELTA
Colombia - Terra
Costa Rica - Terra
Czech Republic - ceskatelevize
Denmark - DR
Denmark - TV2
incl. Faroe Islands and Greenland

Dominican Republic
Ecuador - Terra
El Salvador - Terra
Estonia - ERR
Finland - YLE
France - France Télévisions
incl. French Guyana, French Polynesia, French Southern Territories, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Mayotte, New Caledonia, Réunion, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Wallis and Futuna

Germany - ARD
Germany - ZDF
Greece - ERT
Guatemala - Terra
Honduras - Terra
Hong Kong - i-Cable
Hungary - Magyar
Iceland - RUV
Israel - IBA
Italy - Rai
Italy - Sky Italia
Japan - Gorin
Japan - NHK
Japan - NHK On Demand
Korea - SBS
Latvia - LTV
Lithuania - LRT
Mexico - Terra
Netherlands - NOS
incl. Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles

Nicaragua - Terra
Norway - NRK
Panama - Terra
Peru - Terra
Poland - TVP
Romania - TVR
Russia - C1R
Russia - RTR
Slovakia - STV
Slovenia - RTV
Spain - RTVE
Sweden - SVT
Switzerland - RSI
Switzerland - SF
Switzerland - TSR
Turkey - TRT
United Kingdom - BBC
incl. Gibraltar and British Virgin Islands

Uruguay - Terra
USA - NBC
Venezuela - Terra

Written by Ellrohir on 24.02.2010 at 13:29

The most ridiculous thing is, that exactly the same happened to us in group stage...and it was even with exactly the same opponent...wonder what the hell they thought after first period...

Holly shit is Bartečko ''alive'' will he play on this OG, its nasty hit blod on ice, OMG and non og news show it
It looks nasty , poor guy , i still like him from Lulea days, even he's on Farjestad but this was to much

He should be ok except possible concussion...it was just some small arteriole torn...so lot of blood spilled but should be nothing so serious

Written by Ellrohir on 24.02.2010 at 14:55

He should be ok except possible concussion...it was just some small arteriole torn...so lot of blood spilled but should be nothing so serious

he even wasnt hospitalized what I read
He will play today against Sweden?
He knows Swe hockey well shame Lulea could pay him and Ob?ut

EDDIt:
wasnt a Tore Vikingstad's goal scored whit skate?

Whoa! we are fighting for medals in men's cross country relay!

30secs in front before last 10kms...awesome!

USA 2-0 Suisse
Miller vs Hiller LOL
2 goalies was realy a game makers, best in game, even player sto but they both was on level, game starts werry fast from one side to other and both has a moments, secend was slower, 3th was slow till last 10 minutes, even both teams made good moments USA was danmgerouse moments and awesome epizode in end of secend when USA scored goal in last secends, but it was not count because puck cross blue line when was 0:00 on clock so no goal, there was no goal what Suisse scored we all saw it, puck didnt cross blue line, but after some minute USA scored again but why it was not count in I didnt understood comentary
winning goal was in emty net, some more years Suisse, some more years dedenetly they are best progesive hockey nation in Europe, U 20 they are secend in Europe

As expected Sablikova won the gold fopr the women's 5000metres speed skating. But she had to fight real hard for it, only 0.4 ahead of the silver.

Sweden got gold in relay 4X10km com[etition, STV show from Calgary when Sweden won, da,n Im happy Ilive in 2010 video and tec stuff is much better
J''anis Miņins felt again in bobsleight training ride secend time , seems Latvia wont ride now, seems this track is to dangarouse and Australian boblsight wont ride to

Holly shit
Canada 7-3 Sweden
It was an Hockey orgasm , realy such game, Canada played like I dont know againts what because where was Malkin, Ovečking, they was defenetly out of game, it was like Canada vs Germany realy , There wa sno ways how Rus could win game, and all Canada goals was beatifull, look what passes they gave, Rus was more like luck, seems its end of Bykov well now all will rermainds him why Ja?in , Zubov, Shushinsky and others stay out of team, butw aht hepen it hepen, simply Canada was besta nd always proved Rus defense is week, maybe weeker in TOP 8 teams, simply seems we alreday have final game, real final, only can be good if USA vs Canada , let there be Nord America derby like in 2002

Finland 2-0 Czceh
I dunno what was wrong, game was close, but seems Finland play better to tactice and Cz take of gfoaly to fast they shood wate some minute more , it wasnt easy walk for Fins , but they won
Maybe czcehs shood think about before move beck in Europe, seems those who play here lil lost shape

Slovakia 4-3 Sweden
maybe we miss one game for practice but realy Slovakia has much better team how czcehs and if they meet0it wont hepen) Svk would win, realy they have BEST of NHL what they can get and best of Europians, and simply it was Svk year, like 1994 and 2006 was swedens year, 1998 was czceh year, this is Svk year simply last chances for this greta generation where soem might not survive till next OG and seems Svk try prove last WC matches was mistace and still can play, but Sweden was not playing bad, simply it was not luck, luck was in Svk side

1/2 finals
USA-Finland
I dont know, I dont know we will see, because its bve close game, realy glose, we will see who will win, I think USA simply because they have all oportunity to do it it and good team, we will see

Canada-Slovakia
Its be game to see. I think Canada , but not so easy how they did whit Russia, Svk find way how play and they might suprise world, if they win they be olympic champions

Yeah, Canada was outstanding! Their assists were of high quality.
I hope it will be final between Canada and Finland (cause Sweden is out, otherwise I support Sweden)

@Marcel : I saw the Sablikova run. I think she knew that she couldn't loose 1.3 seconds in 2 laps, so she stayed calm.
Beckert was going strong hands loose in the last laps though.

Damn, Lindsey Vonn's crash (and a lot of others) didn't need to happen.
Postpone the damn thing if the weather is too bad, you morons!!

About ice hockey - who would argue that final match is going to be Canada - USA no matter what?

Written by Koen Smits on 25.02.2010 at 13:31

Yeah, Canada was outstanding! Their assists were of high quality.
I hope it will be final between Canada and Finland (cause Sweden is out, otherwise I support Sweden)

Guy from Belgie likes hockey weird, yes sad game, but it was bad luck
in Can game such close game, where both are in same strenght, depends who has stronger 4th line and imo 4 goals for Can scored 4th line, rus 4th was invisible

Written by Ellrohir on 25.02.2010 at 13:40

About ice hockey - who would argue that final match is going to be Canada - USA no matter what?

Dont say it might be Can-Fin, but if its be USA then gold is canadian, 2 times USA wont won...BTW U 20 final USA won, here it wonthepen

I almost forgot - we have unexpected bronze from Men's relay, cheers

Woo! Another gold to Australia, this time in the Women's Aerial Freestyle Skiing!

You only can success in those weird sports

You still have to be good to be able to do 400 twist back flip things off a jump!

Written by Ellrohir on 25.02.2010 at 14:09

You only can success in those weird sports

Well some way those are weird for 100% summer country LOL

I certainly wouldn't put the US in the gold game yet... not by any stretch. it comes down to a good team and hot goaltending. both Miller and Miika pitched shut-outs yesterday, and either are completely capable of stonewalling the other guy's team.

i think Canada would/should/will win. if they don't, i think they should be forced to wear pink sweaters through the 2014 games.