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Which most people managed to avoid quite easily ;] the same people avoid the crappy rehash bands of other genres too and if you think black metal lacks creativity then that means all other genres are dead in the water. It's not the case of course, metal is doing just fine, black metal in particular. Black metal in this day and age is practically unrecognizable from what it once was, the fact it can assimilate itself into every other metal subgenre is proof of that. Some try to rehash, some of them do a good job but most are ignored as being self indulgent.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 01.09.2011 at 14:43
Which most people managed to avoid quite easily ;] the same people avoid the crappy rehash bands of other genres too and if you think black metal lacks creativity then that means all other genres are dead in the water. It's not the case of course, metal is doing just fine, black metal in particular. Black metal in this day and age is practically unrecognizable from what it once was, the fact it can assimilate itself into every other metal subgenre is proof of that. Some try to rehash, some of them do a good job but most are ignored as being self indulgent.
i see your point man ...just this fusion of stuff with bm is not my cup of tea....
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I read this review, gave this album a listen, and I'm addicted to it now.
Thank you very much. An amazing album.
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In the name of forests; In the name of stars; In the name of all the seas; In the name of storms... Proud sons of ancient nation; Proud sons of sacred song in the wind; Proud sons behind a mirror of ice who told... Fathers of the icy age!!
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This album didn't do much for me. I don't know why, but the only song i found noteworthy was the song glorifying (maybe?) the former republic of Yugoslavia. Feel free to criticize me.
EDIT 12/26: I don't know what I was talking about when I wrote that, but this album is great.
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Written by Slayer666 on 31.08.2011 at 19:15
Oh my fucking holy lord, the day has come! I can't believe that a black metal album describing Slobodan Milosevic's various exploits actually came to existence. And "Socijalisticka Federativna Republika Jugoslavija" made me lol so hard...
Will be checking this out, pronto.
True for me as well, except for the "checking out" part.
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22.12.2011 - 23:27Rating: 8
Written by Milena on 22.12.2011 at 23:09
True for me as well, except for the "checking out" part.
FAIL.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 22.12.2011 at 23:27 FAIL.
She doesn't like a lot of black metal as it is. I wouldn't expect her to even bother with this.
I mean I personally regret listening to it myself.
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22.12.2011 - 23:36Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.12.2011 at 23:31 I mean I personally regret listening to it myself.
Another FAIL. (Not to mention that just like Joe... I had no idea what cd you listened, the description of yours was like a completely different thing )
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Especially as that Sycophant album is probably closer to this than a lot of the other stuff you like
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Written by Milena on 22.12.2011 at 23:09
True for me as well, except for the "checking out" part.
Why? This just might be the album that will get you into black.
(next to no chance though, but still, aren't you just a bit curious?)
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Written by Slayer666 on 23.12.2011 at 00:28
Why? This just might be the album that will get you into black.
(next to no chance though, but still, aren't you just a bit curious?)
I have, like, a gazzilion things to get to first, haven't even wrapped up (if there is such a thing) major bands from the genres I do love already. Ofc I am curious. But what I did this year was tackling a lot of shit at once and getting confused. I only cleared up the mess of albums on my computer a couple months ago and decided what I like now and what will be put off till my tastes change.
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Written by Milena on 23.12.2011 at 00:43
I have, like, a gazzilion things to get to first, haven't even wrapped up (if there is such a thing) major bands from the genres I do love already. Ofc I am curious. But what I did this year was tackling a lot of shit at once and getting confused. I only cleared up the mess of albums on my computer a couple months ago and decided what I like now and what will be put off till my tastes change.
Oh, right. I keep forgetting not everyone has too much free time on their hands.
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Written by Slayer666 on 23.12.2011 at 00:47
Oh, right. I keep forgetting not everyone has too much free time on their hands.
Well I currently use it for nothing, but if I actually could do something useful, it wouldn't be listening to a lot more music, as I'm constantly being preached to about not doing anything around the house and yackety yack family rant.
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It seems like they need to write a sequel, if you know what I mean.
No need to dwell on that "unsafe" subject online.
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Written by Oaken on 07.05.2012 at 01:21 No need to dwell on that "unsafe" subject online.
What?
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.05.2012 at 02:55
Written by Oaken on 07.05.2012 at 01:21 No need to dwell on that "unsafe" subject online.
What?
Just check out the name of the first EP and relate that to my ..."vicinity".
And yes, we do need another album with four others on the cover.
And again, let's not dwell.
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Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 13:08
Just check out the name of the first EP and relate that to my ..."vicinity".
And yes, we do need another album with four others on the cover.
And again, let's not dwell.
Just because an album features strong, controversial imagery doesn't necessarily mean they're politically inclined toward communism, Nazism, etc. In fact I'm fairly sure they aren't, rather it's used for awareness purposes only.
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12.05.2012 - 15:11Rating: 8
Exaxctly, one form of protest is to act as the thing you want to protest against.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 12.05.2012 at 13:26
Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 13:08
Just check out the name of the first EP and relate that to my ..."vicinity".
And yes, we do need another album with four others on the cover.
And again, let's not dwell.
Just because an album features strong, controversial imagery doesn't necessarily mean they're politically inclined toward communism, Nazism, etc. In fact I'm fairly sure they aren't, rather it's used for awareness purposes only.
You got me wrong. I meant that those dudes on the cover of the EP can be... "replaced". If you know what I mean.
Written by X-Ray Rod on 12.05.2012 at 15:11
Exaxctly, one form of protest is to act as the thing you want to protest against.
What I told JOOE.
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Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 18:53
You got me wrong. I meant that those dudes on the cover of the EP can be... "replaced". If you know what I mean.
Nope, I have no idea what you're talking about
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Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 18:53
You got me wrong. I meant that those dudes on the cover of the EP can be... "replaced". If you know what I mean.
Nope, I have no idea what you're talking about
You following politics these days?
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Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 18:59
You following politics these days?
Perhaps you should put me out of my misery and stop talking in riddles, inverted commas and rhetorical questions and just say what you mean. Are you talking about the recent election in Russia or something?
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Written by [user id=4365] on 12.05.2012 at 19:02
Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 18:59
You following politics these days?
Perhaps you should put me out of my misery and stop talking in riddles, inverted commas and rhetorical questions and just say what you mean. Are you talking about the recent election in Russia or something?
Not Russia.
I meant Gaddafi and his other "pals" and I don't think we should mention them.
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13.05.2012 - 18:20Rating: 8
Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 18:53
What I told JOOE.
Still useless to "replace them" there's no reason for that. Considering the theme of the album and the fact that the politics of those people are still alive. Also, it's stupid to put recent politics people in the cover.... Specially if you don't want to get in trouble if you get my point.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 13.05.2012 at 18:20
Written by Oaken on 12.05.2012 at 18:53
What I told JOOE.
Still useless to "replace them" there's no reason for that. Considering the theme of the album and the fact that the politics of those people are still alive. Also, it's stupid to put recent politics people in the cover.... Specially if you don't want to get in trouble if you get my point.
Yes, I do.
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28.04.2014 - 09:19Rating: 8
Written by deadone on 28.04.2014 at 05:20 The worst thing is they're trying to make money by associating themselves with some of history's worst war criminals.
Oh yes, I forgot you can get rich by this sort of music. Of course.
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28.04.2014 - 09:32Rating: 8
Written by deadone on 28.04.2014 at 09:26
Obviously the imagery, song titles and overall pakcage are designed to stir shock and thus get attention which results in people listening to the band and ergo some money is made if they sell it.
Whatever the case, this cheapens the horror of what these regimes did and turns genocide and brutal oppression a marketing gimmick.
Well, who am I to tell you what to enjoy or not.
I personally enjoy the imagery, specially the artwork. Two sides of the same shitty coin. Jesus Ain't in Poland is also a funny band name I enjoy. Then again, I like this sort of satire.
To me it doesn't cheapen the horror. It works as awareness.
Hell, I make jokes about Pinochet every now and then and some of my family and friends got really affected by that shit.
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Complaining about bands using shock imagery? Holy crap, does this guy even metal? Tastelessness, shock tactics and controversy have all been part of metal and various counter-culture music and art forms since forever. Just take a look at the early industrial movement. Of course it takes prissy reactions likes deadone's to make it what it is, so I guess we can be thankful for that. Of course it's always especially ironic when the OP has a list of favourite bands oriented around death, war, torturers and serial murderers and disease. Bands that are all glorifying in some form the use of offensive, destructive and controversial imagery. Even if they don't necessarily subscribe to the belief systems involved they are still using it to their own personal advantages to the detriment of others. Perhaps we should introduce him to The Meads of Asphodel.
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28.04.2014 - 12:50Rating: 8
Written by deadone on 28.04.2014 at 09:44
Quote: To me it doesn't cheapen the horror. It works as awareness.
I don't see how it increases awareness if the lyrics glorify it as in the song above.
Ever read The Prince?
That shit glorifies the shit out of authoritarianism but the sarcasm and sattire for awareness sake was too obvious... So obvious that most people misunderstood Michavelli and missed the point completely though. I see a similar thing here. But that's my way of looking at it.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 28.04.2014 at 11:58
Perhaps we should introduce him to The Meads of Asphodel.
Not from the 80'. Must be shit.
Jokes aside, now that you mention the Meads, good old Metatron said a few words about controversial topics in metal (refering to the case of NSBM) where he pretty much nailed it:
"Without such movements the past would be inevitably forgotten and lessons from specific ages of human history lost from memory. NSBM can serve as a reminder to both sides of a very controversial coin. [...] What is important is the freedom to discus without prejudice individual views, and NSBM is a medium for a minority to express those views. It is your choice whether to listen, but to silence this view is to become the very beast you attempt to muzzle."
I never understood people that tell others what should be allowed or what is decent and acceptable, specially in something like Metal.
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