X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18439 |
Hahaha going for the dissapointed fanboy excuse... So classy. How many sips are for that one? Two?
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser StaffPosts: 9723 |
28.08.2012 - 12:50Rating: 6
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Written by Carl Berg on 27.08.2012 at 23:15
I would definitely not give this album a 5. The album might not be the classical Ensiferum album, but a 5 is way too harsh. Sounds more like a disappointed fanboy's score than a professional reviewer's.
I don't understand...Judging by Baz's reviews of the past two albums (both rated a 9+), and he's rated all of their material up until this point a 9 or 10, doesn't it make him less of a fanboy for being able to rationally admit when a band he loves makes a misstep? Seeing as you've rated all their albums thus far with a bare minimum of 7+ (including this one), it's easier to deduce that you are the fanboy.
I haven't heard the new album in its entirety, but judging from what I've heard so far, this album sounds like some amateur folk metal band trying to play like Ensiferum. I think Baz explained a similar sentiment in his review.
As for myself, I'll probably still pick it up. I loved Victory Songs and Iron, while From Afar was one that took a long, long time to grow on me, maybe it will be the same case with Unsung Heroes.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
28.08.2012 - 12:57Rating: 6
Why is it that so many seem to have a fetish for those insignificant numbers? I don't care what you rate an album. If you like, or don't like, an album explain to me why and that's good enough for me. Such is the purpose of this review, for example, that little 5 next to the review seems to draw some people's attention away from the opinion expressed in words.
If I see someone has given a rating of a 10, what I gather is that that person really enjoyed the album, to the extent that they consider it perfect or near perfect. I can't get anything more of their opinion, if there really is anything more they can say than "WOAH...SO GOOD!", until they express it in words. A number isn't an opinion, it is merely a reflection of an opinion.
As for MS "casuals", I would like to think that everyone can provide an explanation for why a particular album is enjoyable. Though it would be naive of me to deny the existence of fan-boyish tendencies or adulation for a particular band which may overcome any attempt at providing a reasonable explanation. They would have no really beneficial opinion to which I can relate as it is something subject entirely to their own enjoyment. Does this make their rating wrong? Of course not, it's a number they give to a piece of music they deem to fulfill, or fail to, their entertainment needs. This is totally useless to me of course, so I look for where I assume an opinion from which I can draw some information as to content of the music, such as this review for example.
All the ratings do is signal to me the potential likelihood that that person may have more of an opinion to offer, but that isn't to say I would consider the opinion of those who give an album a 10 as opposed to a 7 necessarily of less value, just the odds that they will have something more to say about it. It's not a guarantee of course, some who give this album, for example, a 9 may have more to say about it than someone who gives it a 7. There really isn't a sure fire way of spotting a substantial opinion behind a rating.
That's why words are infinitely more important, they can tell me what I need to know, not some offhand application of an album to a rating scale. And that's what reviews are for, they aren't the sole domain of "critics", they are meaningful expressions of opinion which can give me an inclination or disinclination to look further into a piece of music.
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truenoacero
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28.08.2012 - 15:02Rating: 7
I agree with the review. This is the letdown of the year.
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AXA
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28.08.2012 - 15:53Rating: 9
When i read like this shit .. i know some one don't understand the conception of the album
when i listen to this album i want to listen to it more and more
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In My Sword I Trust was a great song, but I couldn't even finish this album because I got so bored of it... I don't think it was horrible; I probably just had high expectations that weren't met. I'll probably give it another chance sometime, but I agree that it's their worst release yet.
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So just another Ensiferum album, huh?
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elseif
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29.08.2012 - 01:17Rating: 6
-1 for Ensiferum, too bad!
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15303 |
Written by R'Vannith on 28.08.2012 at 12:57
words on numbers.
well said
i thought about giving up numbers in reviews as other staff writers have, but decided against it. numbers have some value and are a way to at least rank appreciation of an album. MS has a set scale to correspond with general whole numbers, and the other side of the decimal point gives the reader an idea where it stands compared in relation to other albums I reviewed. considering i review a lot of smaller acts, i think seeing a 8+ from me will hopefully bring more traffic to the review, thus getting the band attention.
ideally you'd like readers to actually, well, read and process your reviews rather than score. and understand individual mileage varies from album to album.
and, as said before, others numbers are significant for figuring out whose opinion to disregard, whether it be the person who scores everything 9, 10, or 1... or the person who loves one genre and thus has significantly lower ratings for other genres (I.e. a prog lover who scores all doom a 5 or 6) ... the more similar a person's numbers trend to mine, the easier it is to assess and value their score on an album i haven't heard.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
29.08.2012 - 14:40Rating: 6
Written by BitterCOld on 29.08.2012 at 03:19
well said
i thought about giving up numbers in reviews as other staff writers have, but decided against it. numbers have some value and are a way to at least rank appreciation of an album. MS has a set scale to correspond with general whole numbers, and the other side of the decimal point gives the reader an idea where it stands compared in relation to other albums I reviewed. considering i review a lot of smaller acts, i think seeing a 8+ from me will hopefully bring more traffic to the review, thus getting the band attention.
ideally you'd like readers to actually, well, read and process your reviews rather than score. and understand individual mileage varies from album to album.
and, as said before, others numbers are significant for figuring out whose opinion to disregard, whether it be the person who scores everything 9, 10, or 1... or the person who loves one genre and thus has significantly lower ratings for other genres (I.e. a prog lover who scores all doom a 5 or 6) ... the more similar a person's numbers trend to mine, the easier it is to assess and value their score on an album i haven't heard.
Yeah, the numbers are useful for reassuring those who read the review that what they're reading is worth their time. Terrible really, when you think about, but that's how things are I guess, people see a review with a yellow number they might more readily check out the review than one with an orange number. Totally forgo the number and you are pretty much throwing caution to the wind and hoping things like the opening lines as they are displayed on this website attract readers, or a nice album artwork etc.
As soon as people begin to read the review they should leave the number to an aside, rather than keeping it at the front of their mind while reading. That totally detracts from what the reviewer is trying to say I think.
And that's definitely true too, there is a certain level of respect that you develop for someone's opinion based on what they've rated and how similar they are to how you would rate things and what it is they like listening to. Wherever and whenever I can though I prefer to read what someone has to say about the music, not just what number they put to it. The number is a brief indication to me, nothing more.
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Varegan Hamranakara
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And by the harp of Vainamoinen!!! what the fuck are those stupid narrations in an Ensiferum song?
It's like buying a bottle with a big brand of vodka on it and pure mineral water in it!
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"METAL STORM" (LIGHTING STRIKES)
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Everything has pretty much been said about this release, but you could see it coming though (imo)
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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I didnt, because i pretty much loved "From Afar"
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Petri sounds really bad in this one.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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Written by SigFog on 01.09.2012 at 19:03
Nothing special
its especially bad
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MarioVillalobos
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Well i really don´t like to much the ensiferum albums but this is pretty nice, a little bit more different that the others
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Dark Cornatus Powerslave ElitePosts: 4330 |
Written by atkmetal123 on 31.08.2012 at 14:04
Petri sounds really bad in this one.
He sounds so bad, it is probably the worst vocals i've heard on an album yet. Never really have liked him. I think they can do with a better vocalist. He sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
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Dinruth
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03.09.2012 - 16:14Rating: 7
I don't know why there's so much hate for this album .. I like it .. definiteley not my most favourite Ensiferum album but still a good effort
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Couldnt agree more with this review, my biggest let down of the year musically!!
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Dinruth
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03.09.2012 - 23:08Rating: 7
Even though I don't agree with the review, the comparison between the album and spiderwebs that were made on drugs is brilliant
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18439 |
Written by Ellrohir on 03.09.2012 at 23:19
Written by Dinruth on 03.09.2012 at 23:08
the comparison between the album and spiderwebs that were made on drugs is brilliant
the question now is, which kind of drug it was
They are definitely the crack's spider's bitch.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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fade Son of Sweden StaffPosts: 3771 |
fadeSon of SwedenStaffPosts: 3771
Nice review Baz, and correct. I like what I have heard and while I realize not every album will hit the nail on the head of brilliance we still must find the bright spots and support what we like. After all these years we are all older and I like to think musically wiser too.. bawls am I stoned? All I know is I only played this album on my trail run last week and it repeated 4 times...needless to say at the end of my four hour run I was singing... "In my Sword I Trust."
I still wish Petri was still with Norther, but this is another story for another day...
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07.09.2012 - 19:54Rating: 5
Written by fade on 06.09.2012 at 08:46
while I realize not every album will hit the nail on the head of brilliance we still must find the bright spots and support what we like.
The problem is that the bright spots and dark spots are in the same songs. If there were good songs and bad songs its much easier to pluck out and salvage a few songs from an album. But here if you wanna get to that one or two good melodies in a song you gotta bear through all the boring watered down crap to get to there. its the same problem with Khaos Legions.
Not worth it in my opinion.
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Kind of a soft album, and it's missing the great songwriting of previous albums. What's the Finnish word for "Couch-sitter"? Maybe they should change their name to that.
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Mugthulhu
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08.09.2012 - 20:51Rating: 8
It's a good album. I think it's a good thing that it's different from the other ones. Bands who make the same album over and over again tend to get boring, and Ensiferum is clearly not one of these bands.
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Written by [user id=35732] on 08.09.2012 at 20:52
Written by [user id=106198] on 08.09.2012 at 20:41
What's the Finnish word for "Couch-sitter"?
Sohvaperuna
Sohva = Sofa/Couch | Peruna = Potato
Nice!
Hail Sohvaperuna!
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BORT
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08.09.2012 - 23:18Rating: 9
Great album but the last two songs Passion, Proof, Power and Bamboleo could have been left off the album. Or just shorten Passion, proof, power to not include that awful break in the song at the 12 minute mark.
I also found this album to be more folky similar to the first album with the mixture of electric guitars, acoustic guitars and clean vocals.
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JohnnyMetalDrums
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Like most I was also disappointed in Unsung, but it's not terrible. Burning Leaves is my favorite track, but like the review says.. the album in it's entirety lacks the "grab your axe, beer and lets fight!" attitude.
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