Written by Erik M. on 13.10.2013 at 21:53

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 13.10.2013 at 17:13

I am wondering if Erik wet himself yesterday in Little Devil seeing Officium Triste with temporary guitarist William van Dijk from Whispering Gallery playing a surprising stelist, due to the inclusion of Your Fall Grace at William's request, although closing song Like Atlas was played too fast.

Hahaha. Yeah, it was an excellent setlist they had yesterday. All songs from the last 3 albums which are my favourite albums (of course Reason is my favourite, hence why it's on this list). Great to watch them perform Your Fall From Grace, because they never played it live before. I didn't notice Like Atlas was played too fast though, but that's probably because I'm easily satisfied when it comes to gigs, unlike you. Yes, the fact of seeing a great band perform is good enough for me most of the time. Of course when some aspects are obviously not good or even bad, then I'd still complain. But the more gigs you attend, the more critical you become. That obviously means you must be way more critical than me.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 13.10.2013 at 22:00

it was a good gig though, yesterday. But then again I have never seen Officium Triste deliver even an average gig.
Some minro mistakes were made in the songs by William, but that was to be expected since he was extremely nervous, this being his first gig with OT. I think it was a good move to have this dress rehearsal a week before they play Dutch Doom Days in their hometown (come to think of it of the current live line-up only Pim and Lawrence are from Rotterdoom). This will have taken the nervous edge off William for next week.

Written by Erik M. on 13.10.2013 at 22:08

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 13.10.2013 at 22:00

it was a good gig though, yesterday. But then again I have never seen Officium Triste deliver even an average gig.
Some minro mistakes were made in the songs by William, but that was to be expected since he was extremely nervous, this being his first gig with OT. I think it was a good move to have this dress rehearsal a week before they play Dutch Doom Days in their hometown (come to think of it of the current live line-up only Pim and Lawrence are from Rotterdoom). This will have taken the nervous edge off William for next week.

I agree, definitely a good performance. First time I saw them they impressed more though, but that was not because of their performance but because then they played more than twice as long (a little under 2 hours I think) and the venue was just way better. Little Devil is good, but that venue in Ridderkerk was pretty awesome, in every aspect. Oh and it's kind of obvious that he was nervous, especially when he had to play that part in Like Atlas alone. Hehe, and I actually thought they were all from Rotterdam.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 13.10.2013 at 22:13

the line-up that played yesterday. NIels lives in Utrecht, William in Hoogland, Gerard somewhere in Brabant. Pim and Lau in ROtterdam. Martin (keyboard player and ex-drummer) who only plays live once in a while live in Germany. Bram who was on holiday, why William played, lives in Utrecht as well.

Originally Maritn is from Rotterdam and Gerard as well and also the Original guitarist Johan is from Rotterdam as is the Original bass player, who's name I have forgotten

Written by [user id=135303] on 17.10.2013 at 21:41

Well shit, my favorite genre is Death Doom also.

I am displeased in the lack of Saturnus in this

Written by [user id=135303] on 17.10.2013 at 21:54

I never liked 1 album per band lists..
As for Saturnus: My two favorites are Veronika and Paradise, Saturn in Ascension comes close 3nd and Martyre not so close 4th..
I think you should relisten Veronika one time, it doesn't have the atmosphere of Paradise but it's awesome..

Can you do a list of your favorite Doom Death / Gothic Doom albums?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.10.2013 at 13:53

Delirium - Zzooouhh should also be included imo

Written by Góral on 22.12.2013 at 23:43

Very interesting list, though very selective (this has its advantages and some disadvantages). After explaining a few details, I say "yes". + 1 from me

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 20:58

You seemed to have branched away from exclusively having melodic death doom. Winter, Disembowelment, Hooded Menace etc. Maybe time for a title and description change

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 21:53

he probably means that death doom+melodic death doom albums are included here by "(melodic) death doom"

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 21:58

If so this is a confusing way of highlighting that fact

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 22:03


Yeah I've noticed that. This method is used extensively in our language and probably several other ones but I haven't seen it much in English tbh.

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 22:04


Fair enough. I think a simple "death doom and melodic death doom" type description would allay any confusion.

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 22:16

Agreed but I guess "(Melodic) death doom" is vague and thus, more artistic

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 22:18


Perhaps, but melodic death doom is far from an artistic genre

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 22:26

Erik will disagree as melodic death doom is seemingly his most favorite genre

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 20:58

You seemed to have branched away from exclusively having melodic death doom. Winter, Disembowelment, Hooded Menace etc. Maybe time for a title and description change

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 21:58

If so this is a confusing way of highlighting that fact

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 22:04

Fair enough. I think a simple "death doom and melodic death doom" type description would allay any confusion.

Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2014 at 22:27

Too lacking in experimentation for me to be considered artistic =P

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 21:53

he probably means that death doom+melodic death doom albums are included here by "(melodic) death doom"

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 22:03

Yeah I've noticed that. This method is used extensively in our language and probably several other ones but I haven't seen it much in English tbh.

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 22:16

Agreed but I guess "(Melodic) death doom" is vague and thus, more artistic

Written by mz on 12.01.2014 at 22:26

Erik will disagree as melodic death doom is seemingly his most favorite genre

Written by [user id=4365] on 14.01.2014 at 00:22

As mz stated, it may be a regional thing, but having melodic in parentheses and death doom in quotation marks is very confused grammar to my eyes. You're quoting "death doom" but not "melodic." It just appears a bit jumbled.

Written by Erik M. on 14.01.2014 at 00:24


Oh damn, you mean it should be like this: "(Melodic) Death Doom"? If so, then I misunderstood you completely.

Written by [user id=4365] on 14.01.2014 at 00:27

I'm not an expert on grammar by far. Marcel could probably tell you if it's technically correct or not. It looks better to me like that though, as (Melodic) "Death Doom" feels as though the melodic part is modifying the death doom part to mean death doom of the melodic type.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.01.2014 at 00:30

Just do away with the quote marks. So call it: The Best (Melodic) Death Doom Albums.
Or if you want to use the quote marks than it should indeed be: The Best "(Melodic) Death Doom" Albums