All these bands belong to my favourites. Mercyful Fate is number 1 but they arent exactly a black metal band.

Written by [user id=136417] on 12.12.2012 at 15:12

Mercyful Fate is number 1 but they arent exactly a black metal band.

they ARE first wave black metal

Someone tells me if Mayhem and Dissection are counted as well or nope? as they are my fav BM bands

Written by [user id=130727] on 12.12.2012 at 17:38

Someone tells me if Mayhem and Dissection are counted as well or nope? as they are my fav BM bands

Second-wave.

Mercyful Fate by far and then Bathory. Celtic Frost is okayish, but I can't stand Hellhammer and Venom.

Written by [user id=130727] on 12.12.2012 at 17:38

Someone tells me if Mayhem and Dissection are counted as well or nope? as they are my fav BM bands

I consider them both to be second wave, however mayhem's deathcrush album is much more first wave than anything else. It was released in 87, years before the 2nd wave, and it has more of a thrash/death sound then their later albums. I would consider this album to be the link between the waves, though it is mainly a first wave style it still has elements that would later come to define the 2nd wave.

Arguably the best band I have seen lumped into the first wave of black metal is German Poison, and especially their "Into The Abyss" album, although it is more death metal than black.

Written by Aristarchos on 05.10.2014 at 11:56

Arguably the best band I have seen lumped into the first wave of black metal is German Poison, and especially their "Into The Abyss" album, although it is more death metal than black.

No idea which deaf persons lump them into first wave black but they were never considered first wave black at the time, thrash/death is where they are at.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.10.2014 at 13:52

No idea which deaf persons lump them into first wave black but they were never considered first wave black at the time, thrash/death is where they are at.

I have seen them being called black metal in many places, for example wikipedia says that "Poison is often cited as one of the first black metal bands to use extreme fast tempos and blasting beats, along with Sarcófago and Mayhem, and was very important for what would end up as the second wave of black metal", and as I said, that is only one example, but I agree that thrash/death is a better description, especially for their later material. Their first demo "Sons Of Evil" is the one closest to black, and is often compared to Hellhammer.

I think First Wave of Black Metal generally sounds pretty horrid, so I'll go with Mercyful Fate.

Written by Ganondox on 07.10.2014 at 08:38

I think First Wave of Black Metal generally sounds pretty horrid, so I'll go with Mercyful Fate.

many cases to me it sounds as garage demo recordings not real studio mastering

Definitely Mercyful Fate. Bathory and Venom are pretty awful and Celtic Frost had one good first wave black metal album and then an okay album in Monotheist, but that doesn't really belong to the discussion since it's a different style.

Written by Ganondox on 07.10.2014 at 08:38

I think First Wave of Black Metal generally sounds pretty horrid, so I'll go with Mercyful Fate.

Well later on sounding pretty horrid came into play big time.
Although Mercyful Fate does sound better in terms of recording,
I'm going with Bathory.