Written by BloodJuNkie on 15.11.2013 at 17:37
...it would have been better if it wasn't In Flames.

As in another band writing this kind of album would have done a better job, or you think this album is worse than it really is simply because of the band's previous releases? I don't know if you've followed In Flames throughout their career, but they kind of abandoned the whole pure melo-death thing well before they wrote this album.

I still stand behind the idea that this album is, quoting joe, really very not bad. Reminiscent of Reroute To Remain at some points. Waaaaaaaaay better than the two previous.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 15.11.2013 at 23:14

Written by BloodJuNkie on 15.11.2013 at 17:37
...it would have been better if it wasn't In Flames.

As in another band writing this kind of album would have done a better job, or you think this album is worse than it really is simply because of the band's previous releases? I don't know if you've followed In Flames throughout their career, but they kind of abandoned the whole pure melo-death thing well before they wrote this album.

Well, i lol'ed at "The best Alternative Metal album of 2011" because it's sad but true. It's a very good alternative metal album, but the sad thing is that it was made by a Melodeath band like In Flames. I hope you understood now.

Written by BloodJuNkie on 15.11.2013 at 23:58
You didn't understand what i said, did you? Read it again.

I didn't understand, which is why I asked you to clarify in my previous post (even supplying my own two possible theories). I'm assuming you think the album would have been better if it was released by another band?

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2013 at 00:03

Written by BloodJuNkie on 15.11.2013 at 23:58
You didn't understand what i said, did you? Read it again.

I didn't understand, which is why I asked you to clarify in my previous post (even supplying my own two possible theories). I'm assuming you think the album would have been better if it was released by another band?

Read my earlier post I edited it the same time you were posting. ..

Written by BloodJuNkie on 15.11.2013 at 23:58
It's a very good alternative metal album, but the sad thing is that it was made by a Melodeath band like In Flames. I hope you understood now.

I definitely understand (thanks for clearing it up), but I also think this is a weird way to look at music. Does it matter that In Flames used to write a different style of music? If you like this album for what it is, it really shouldn't matter who made it. You're judging the music based on who wrote it rather than the way it sounds, which to me seems rather odd. :/

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2013 at 00:09

Written by BloodJuNkie on 15.11.2013 at 23:58
It's a very good alternative metal album, but the sad thing is that it was made by a Melodeath band like In Flames. I hope you understood now.

I definitely understand (thanks for clearing it up), but I also think this is a weird way to look at music. Does it matter that In Flames used to write a different style of music? If you like this album for what it is, it really shouldn't matter who made it. You're judging the music based on who wrote it rather than the way it sounds, which to me seems rather odd. :/

Well no, i agree with you that it doesn't matter who wrote it but that's what i just said. It's a very good Alt. Metal album but it makes me feel upset that it was made by In Flames. I still like the album but i don't like the way they changed their career. Actually it's all up to them they are free to sing whatever they want but because In Flames is one of my top 5 favorite bands i feel a little bit upset. Still a very good alternative metal album.
And btw, i think the upcoming album will be the same. There are too many people who appreciate SOAPF, i hate that but that means there's no way to see old In Flames again. Anders's voice has changed a little bit too it's not the same as he was in The Jester Race for example.

Written by BloodJuNkie on 16.11.2013 at 00:15
...there's no way to see old In Flames again.

Exactly, and at least you understand that! I'm not sure whether it's more funny or pathetic to read about people waiting for another Whoracle... it's just not gonna happen.

It's a risk any time a band as big as In Flames changes their sound. Do you keep the name for marketing purposes or do you change it so fans no longer associate you with previous releases? I personally haven't done any research into their record sales, but I don't imagine it was the best decision for them (reputation-wise at least) to remain as In Flames.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2013 at 00:22

Written by BloodJuNkie on 16.11.2013 at 00:15
...there's no way to see old In Flames again.

Exactly, and at least you understand that! I'm not sure whether it's more funny or pathetic to read about people waiting for another Whoracle... it's just not gonna happen.

It's a risk any time a band as big as In Flames changes their sound. Do you keep the name for marketing purposes or do you change it so fans no longer associate you with previous releases? I personally haven't done any research into their record sales, but I don't imagine it was the best decision for them (reputation-wise at least) to remain as In Flames.

I'm not 100% sure but i think their sales have increased. They are also doing some other works other than music like "The Jester's Curse" comic book, the characters' design is pretty nifty btw, and their music videos on YouTube for the new In Flames era have more views than the old era. Anyway i wish them a good luck

Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.11.2013 at 23:18
Waaaaaaaaay better than the two previous.

Agreed 100%. This is far from brilliant but it puts those albums to shame.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2013 at 00:34

Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.11.2013 at 23:18
Waaaaaaaaay better than the two previous.

Agreed 100%. This is far from brilliant but it puts those albums to shame.

The prophesies did not lie....
He has returned.....

Written by JÄY on 16.11.2013 at 05:59
The prophesies did not lie....
He has returned.....

I missed commenting on In Flames album threads too much. I had to come back.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2013 at 06:06

Written by JÄY on 16.11.2013 at 05:59
The prophesies did not lie....
He has returned.....

I missed commenting on In Flames album threads too much. I had to come back.

The reason I stick around, tbh
....that and the women.

Written by JÄY on 16.11.2013 at 06:12
....that and the women.

Aye, the women!

Speaking of women, I wonder if these guys will ever venture into female vocalist territory. Someone like a Maria Brink could probably fit into their current style rather well.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2013 at 06:19

Written by JÄY on 16.11.2013 at 06:12
....that and the women.

Aye, the women!

Speaking of women, I wonder if these guys will ever venture into female vocalist territory. Someone like a Maria Brink could probably fit into their current style rather well.

Actually, I could see that haha......

Am I the only one who actually really digs this album?

This album got me back into metal and introduced me to old In Flames, so I just can't give it lower than a ten. Regardless, I do like (love) all of the songs and I don't understand why so many people don't. Actually, I enjoy the fact that In Flames' discography is so varied and different. Oh, well, maybe it's just me.

Written by ppippissi on 08.01.2014 at 20:51

This album got me back into metal and introduced me to old In Flames, so I just can't give it lower than a ten. Regardless, I do like (love) all of the songs and I don't understand why so many people don't. Actually, I enjoy the fact that In Flames' discography is so varied and different. Oh, well, maybe it's just me.

It's pretty hard to don't like songs like Fear Is The Weakness

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2013 at 06:06

Written by JÄY on 16.11.2013 at 05:59
The prophesies did not lie....
He has returned.....

I missed commenting on In Flames album threads too much. I had to come back.

Not quite out of topic, I'm currently listening to the album's reissue (2014) at deezer and I feel that some songs sound different... Am I going psycho ??

I honestly cannot see much quality in this album and the more I listen the more I start to get annoyed by it. I guess the album works better, at least for me, in smaller doses, in shorter listenings. Shorter than a full song, that is, because I don't think any of these songs are that much worth remembering. Some of the songs, like "Where The Dead Ships Dwell" of the single have some cool ideas for a song, but TBH I'm really getting fed up by these annoying fake ass vocals after a few listens. Maybe I'm missing something here , if I'm not, then the album is getting way too much recognition.

It's okay. Better than the albums directly before and after it, but it's not very interesting. The title track, Deliver Us, Where the Dead Ships Dwell, Ropes, and A New Dawn stand out as good songs, but the rest I feel fall a little bit short.

I really enjoy this album, it's quite good really. But still disapointing as in flames seems not to be making much effort, i'm sure they could and should be able to deliver a much better album overall.

Written by Toxik on 31.05.2015 at 17:08
It's pretty hard to don't like songs like Fear Is The Weakness

If this is the best In Flames has to offer since 2002, it's pretty bad. And even Reroute to Remain wasn't that good to begin with.
First 2 albums are amazing, then a little worse next 3 ones. And that's it from In Flames, unless they come with a killer album at the end of their career. State of Slow Decay sure proofs they are still capable.