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Playing Outside Of The Box! (An Alternative Metal Guide & Journey)


Right... Let's get this out of the way from the get-go. Alternative metal is hard to define. I guess that comes from it always wanting to experiment, explore and fuse heavy metal with non-metal music genres. It also makes it an ever changing and growing genre.

Also, before you guys flood me, yes my list contains a lot of Industrial & Nu Metal bands, as well as other genre.. As far as I'm concerned, my picks all fit quite well in the scope of an alternative metal list. Don't you agree? Wait... You disagree? Well, let's agree to disagree and move on.

As for the list itself, I'm going to try and list through time what I (me, myself & moi) consider as essential alternative albums. I will also limit myself to a maximum of 4 releases each year to prevent a messy list, which often makes it a difficult decision, especially in the early 2000's. So yes, it is possible your personal favourite won't be featured. You can tell me all about it in the comments below and we can discuss it, even argue it.

Now, have fun, enjoy my list and let me know what you think or would personally put in your favourite alt-metal list!

-Guib-

EDIT: I will now add my pick for best album of each year using the (best of xxxx) in the chosen album's description.

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Guib's Best Alternative Metal Album Picks

Best Of 2022
Polyphia - Remember That You Will Die

Best Of 2023
Mutoid Man - Mutants

Best of 2024 So Far
...tbd

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Last Updated: March 27th, 2024

Created by: Guib | 20.08.2023



1. Living Colour - Vivid
1988 / Alternative Metal, Funk Rock (best of 1988)
2. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
1988 / Alternative Metal, Psychedelic Rock
3. Faith No More - The Real Thing
1989 / Alternative Metal
4. Godflesh - Streetcleaner
1989 / Industrial, Alternative Metal (best of 1989)
5. L7 - Smell The Magic
1990 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
6. Primus - Frizzle Fry
1990 / Alternative Metal, Experimental Rock (best of 1990)
7. Alice In Chains - Facelift
1990 / Alternative Metal, Grunge
8. Jane's Addiction - Ritual De Lo Habitual
1990 / Alternative Metal, Psychedelic Rock
9. Infectious Grooves - The Plague That Makes Your Booty Move... It's The Infectious Grooves
1991 / Alternative Metal, Funk Rock
10. Primus - Sailing The Seas Of Cheese
1991 / Alternative Metal, Experimental Rock (best of 1991)
11. Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger
1991 / Alternative, Grunge, Stoner Metal
12. The Beyond - Crawl
1991 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
13. Ministry - ΚΕΦΑΛΗΞΘ
1992 / (Album also known as Psalm 69) Industrial, Alternative Metal (best of 1992)
14. Alice In Chains - Dirt
1992 / Alternative Metal, Grunge
15. Helmet - Meantime
1992 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
16. Rage Against The Machine - Rage Against The Machine
1992 / Alternative, Nu Metal
17. Tool - Undertow
1993 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
18. Primus - Pork Soda
1993 / Alternative Metal, Experimental Rock (best of 1993)
19. Clawfinger - Deaf Dumb Blind
1993 / Alternative, Nu Metal
20. Quicksand - Slip
1993 / Alternative Metal, Post-Hardcore
21. Therapy? - Troublegum
1994 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
22. Rollins Band - Weight
1994 / Alternative Metal, Post-Hardcore (best of 1994)
23. Helmet - Betty
1994 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
24. Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
1994 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
25. Alice In Chains - Alice In Chains
1995 / Alternative Metal, Grunge
26. Faith No More - King For A Day... Fool For A Lifetime
1995 / Alternative Metal (best of 1995)
27. White Zombie - Astro Creep: 2000 - Songs Of Love, Destruction And Other Synthetic Delusions Of The Electric Head
1995 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
28. Fear Factory - Demanufacture
1995 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
29. Rage Against The Machine - Evil Empire
1996 / Alternative, Nu Metal (best of 1996)
30. Tool - Ænima
1996 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
31. Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar
1996 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
32. Mushroomhead - Superbuick
1996 / Alternative, Industrial, Nu Metal
33. Finger Eleven - Tip
1997 / Alternative, Nu Metal
34. Deftones - Around The Fur
1997 / Alternative, Nu Metal
35. Rammstein - Sehnsucht
1997 / Industrial, Alternative Metal (best of 1997)
36. Creed (US) - My Own Prison
1997 / Alternative Metal, Post-Grunge
37. Rob Zombie - Hellbilly Deluxe
1998 / Industrial, Alternative Metal (best of 1998)
38. System Of A Down - System Of A Down
1998 / Alternative Metal
39. Korn - Follow The Leader
1998 / Alternative, Nu Metal
40. Katatonia - Discouraged Ones
1998 / Alternative, Gothic, Doom Metal
41. Rage Against The Machine - The Battle Of Los Angeles
1999 / Alternative, Nu Metal (best of 1999)
42. Slipknot - Slipknot
1999 / Alternative, Nu Metal
43. Dir En Grey - Gauze
1999 / Alternative Metal
44. Static-X - Wisconsin Death Trip
1999 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
45. Finger Eleven - The Greyest Of Blue Skies
2000 / Alternative, Nu Metal
46. Linkin Park - id:94505
2000 / Alternative, Nu Metal (best of 2000)
47. Disturbed - The Sickness
2000 / Alternative, Nu Metal
48. Mudvayne - L.D. 50
2000 / Alternative, Nu Metal
49. Kittie - Oracle
2001 / Alternative, Nu Metal
50. Tool - Lateralus
2001 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
51. Slipknot - Iowa
2001 / Alternative, Nu Metal
52. System Of A Down - Toxicity
2001 / Alternative Metal (best of 2001)
53. Disturbed - Believe
2002 / Alternative, Nu Metal (best of 2002)
54. Otep - Sevas Tra
2002 / Alternative, Nu Metal
55. Audioslave - Audioslave
2002 / Alternative Metal, Post-Grunge
56. Stone Sour - Stone Sour
2002 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
57. Evanescence - Fallen
2003 / Alternative Metal
58. Static-X - Shadow Zone
2003 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
59. Cave In - Antenna
2003 / Alternative Metal
60. Godsmack - Faceless
2003 / Alternative Metal (best of 2003)
61. Slipknot - Vol 3: The Subliminal Verses
2004 / Alternative, Nu Metal (best of 2003)
62. In Flames - Soundtrack To Your Escape
2004 / Alternative, Melodic Death Metal
63. The Birthday Massacre - Violet
2004 / Alternative Metal
64. Chevelle - This Type Of Thinking (Could Do Us In)
2004 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
65. Soilwork - Stabbing The Drama
2005 / Alternative, Melodic Death Metal
66. System Of A Down - Mezmerize
2005 / Alternative Metal (best of 2005)
67. Soulfly - Dark Ages
2005 / Alternative, Groove Metal
68. Avenged Sevenfold - City Of Evil
2005 / Alternative Metal
69. P.O.D. - Testify
2006 / Alternative, Nu Metal
70. Tool - 10,000 Days
2006 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2006)
71. Katatonia - The Great Cold Distance
2006 / Alternative, Gothic, Doom Metal
72. Deftones - Saturday Night Wrist
2006 / Alternative, Nu Metal
73. Tomahawk - Anonymous
2007 / Alternative Metal, Experimental Rock
74. The Birthday Massacre - Walking With Strangers
2007 / Alternative Metal
75. Devin Townsend - Ziltoid The Omniscient
2007 / Industrial, Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2007)
76. Fair To Midland - Fables From A Mayfly: What I Tell You Three Times Is True
2007 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
77. Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
2008 / Alternative, Nu Metal
78. Dir En Grey - Uroboros
2008 / Alternative Metal (best of 2008)
79. Soulfly - Conquer
2008 / Alternative, Groove Metal
80. Scars On Broadway - Scars On Broadway
2008 / Alternative Metal
81. Alice In Chains - Black Gives Way To Blue
2009 / Alternative Metal, Grunge
82. Ghost Brigade - Isolation Songs
2009 / Alternative, Post-Metal
83. Devin Townsend - Addicted
2009 / Industrial, Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2009)
84. Sybreed - The Pulse Of Awakening
2009 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
85. Shining (NOR) - Blackjazz
2010 / Alternative Metal, Experimental Jazz
86. Deftones - Diamond Eyes
2010 / Alternative Metal
87. Godsmack - The Oracle
2010 / Alternative Metal
88. Klone - Black Days
2010 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2010)
89. Jane's Addiction - The Great Escape Artist
2011 / Alternative Metal, Psychedelic Rock
90. In Flames - Sounds Of A Playground Fading
2011 / Alternative, Melodic Death Metal
91. Fair To Midland - Arrows & Anchors
2011 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2011)
92. Ghost Brigade - Until Fear No Longer Defines Us
2011 / Alternative, Post-Metal
93. Soen - Cognitive
2012 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
94. Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage
2012 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2012)
95. Deftones - Koi No Yokan
2012 / Alternative Metal
96. Stone Sour - House Of Gold & Bones - Part 1
2012 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
97. Bring Me The Horizon - Sempiternal
2013 / Alternative, Metalcore
98. Tomahawk - Oddfellows
2013 / Alternative Metal, Experimental Rock
99. Karnivool - Asymmetry
2013 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
100. Dirty Shirt - Freak Show
2013 / Alternative, Crossover Folk Metal (best of 2013)
101. Babymetal - Babymetal
2014 / Alternative Metal, J-Pop
102. Killer Be Killed - Killer Be Killed
2014 / Alternative, Groove Metal (best of 2014)
103. Ghost Brigade - IV - One With The Storm
2014 / Alternative, Post-Metal
104. Amaranthe - Massive Addictive
2014 / Alternative Metal
105. Shining (NOR) - International Blackjazz Society
2015 / Alternative Metal, Experimental Jazz
106. Fear Factory - Genexus
2015 / Industrial, Alternative Metal (best of 2015)
107. Agent Fresco - Destrier
2015 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
108. Caligula's Horse - Bloom
2015 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
109. Zeal & Ardor - Devil Is Fine
2016 / Alternative, Black Metal
110. Lacuna Coil - Delirium
2016 / Alternative Metal
111. Gojira - Magma
2016 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2016)
112. Polyphia - Renaissance
2016 / Progressive, Djent, Alternative Metal
113. Soen - Lykaia
2017 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2017)
114. Prophets Of Rage - Prophets Of Rage
2017 / Alternative, Nu Metal
115. Mutoid Man - War Moans
2017 / Hardcore, Progressive, Alternative Metal
116. Mother Of Millions - Sigma
2017 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
117. Zeal & Ardor - Stranger Fruit
2018 / Alternative, Black Metal (best of 2018)
118. Scars On Broadway - Dictator
2018 / Alternative Metal
119. Polyphia - New Levels, New Devils
2018 / Progressive, Djent, Alternative Metal
120. Poem - Unique
2018 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
121. Soen - Lotus
2019 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2019)
122. Wheel - Moving Backwards
2019 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
123. Lacuna Coil - Black Anima
2019 / Alternative Metal
124. The Offering - Home
2019 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
125. Caligula's Horse - Rise Radiant
2020 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2020)
126. Static-X - Project: Regeneration Vol. 1
2020 / Industrial, Alternative Metal
127. Tallah - Matriphagy
2020 / Alternative, Nu Metal
128. Deftones - Ohms
2020 / Alternative Metal
129. Soen - Imperial
2021 / Alternative, Progressive Metal (best of 2021)
130. Chevelle - NIRATIAS
2021 / Alternative Metal, Hard Rock
131. Wheel - Resident Human
2021 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
132. Gojira - Fortitude
2021 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
133. Zeal & Ardor - Zeal & Ardor
2022 / Alternative, Black Metal
134. Polyphia - Remember That You Will Die
2022 / Progressive, Djent, Alternative Metal (best of 2022)
135. Machine Head - Øf Kingdøm And Crøwn
2022 / Alternative, Groove Metal
136. Dir En Grey - Phalaris
2022 / Alternative Metal
137. Voice Of Baceprot - Retas
2023 / Alternative, Nu, Funk Metal
138. Mutoid Man - Mutants
2023 / Alternative, Hardcore, Progressive Sludge (best of 2023)
139. Soen - Memorial
2023 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
140. Molybaron - Something Ominous
2023 / Alternative, Progressive Metal
141. Caligula's Horse - Charcoal Grace
2024 / Alternative, Progressive Metal



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20.08.2023 - 09:58
Oldy86
So many awesome albums on here. Yeah I definitely agree alternative metal is hard to define but I do think a lot of these have homes in other sub genres. Either way, most, if not all of these would still fit under the "alternative" banner by definition. I always hated the term nu metal, and I believe a lot of the bands that people consider nu metal don't even have the defined nu metal sound anyway. So I think bands like Deftones and SOAD fit much better in Alternative metal. But then there's things like experimental metal and avant-garde metal which could easily be threw into alternative haha. It really starts to get silly. So many sub genres and sub sub genres now.
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20.08.2023 - 10:16
AndyMetalFreak
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It's great to see the evolution of what's possibly the most difficult genre for me to fully digest. I never really liked the term nu metal myself either, but it is what it is, and I appreciate the way metal has developed over the years regardless. I like the idea of experimenting and trying something new in metal, but I'm more of a traditionalist myself and have always preferred the simpler way, with catchy melodies and easy to digest songwriting, but even traditional forms of heavy, black and death metal are influenced by one genre or another.
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20.08.2023 - 10:41
JoHn Doe
Very hit and miss genre for me. I like a few albums in the list.
Nice to see the overlooked Living Colour at number 1.
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20.08.2023 - 10:42
F3ynman2000
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A side of metal that I have practically no knowledge of. I should definitely dive into this sometime
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20.08.2023 - 15:07
Guib
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Written by F3ynman2000 on 20.08.2023 at 10:42

A side of metal that I have practically no knowledge of. I should definitely dive into this sometime


I sure hope you'll find something you like in here. This is likely the most diverse of my lists, as in bands on here won't be as similar to one another. Alt metal is definitely fun if you wanna explore new sounds and ways of doing metal.
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20.08.2023 - 15:09
Guib
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Written by JoHn Doe on 20.08.2023 at 10:41

Very hit and miss genre for me. I like a few albums in the list.
Nice to see the overlooked Living Colour at number 1.


It is absolutely unthinkable for me to make an alternative list and not include Living Colour. Not only are they great but they're also among the first to be called that. Which is kinda funny because they're definitely not that much into experimenting compared to others on this list. There's certainly funk in there, but they could probably just fit under the "hard rock" banner as well.
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20.08.2023 - 15:23
Guib
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Written by Oldy86 on 20.08.2023 at 09:58

So many awesome albums on here. Yeah I definitely agree alternative metal is hard to define but I do think a lot of these have homes in other sub genres. Either way, most, if not all of these would still fit under the "alternative" banner by definition. I always hated the term nu metal, and I believe a lot of the bands that people consider nu metal don't even have the defined nu metal sound anyway. So I think bands like Deftones and SOAD fit much better in Alternative metal. But then there's things like experimental metal and avant-garde metal which could easily be threw into alternative haha. It really starts to get silly. So many sub genres and sub sub genres now.


Absolutely agree with the Nu metel label, I totally get why people did it though. We like to put things in boxes and label them because doing so makes it easier for us. Whether to organize, remember or find sounds that have similarities to what we like and then recommend them to others. Proof of that lies in those very lists we do on MS right?

But I think that back when the Nu metal label was created, the term alternative metal simply wasn't used as much. Fusing non-metal genres so wildly the way they did was sort of marginal and kind of new too. So perhaps it was a way for people to classify those odd sounding, experimental bands. There was such a boom of alt bands in the late 90's and early 00's that I guess people just threw 'em all under the same banner because it was easier. I mean for sure if you take Nu as being mostly Rap Metal, then yeah SOAD and later Deftones, to name just a few, do not fit the bill at all.

Also, most Nu metal bands ended up evolving over the years. Changing their sound and experimenting other ideas and direction. So yeah its really one of those label that doesn't mean much outside "we have hip-hop influences". I guess, like you pointed out, we could say that for a lot of metal sub-genres too.
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20.08.2023 - 15:40
JoHn Doe
Written by Guib on 20.08.2023 at 15:09

Written by JoHn Doe on 20.08.2023 at 10:41

Very hit and miss genre for me. I like a few albums in the list.
Nice to see the overlooked Living Colour at number 1.


It is absolutely unthinkable for me to make an alternative list and not include Living Colour. Not only are they great but they're also among the first to be called that. Which is kinda funny because they're definitely not that much into experimenting compared to others on this list. There's certainly funk in there, but they could probably just fit under the "hard rock" banner as well.


Well, they inserted some soul, blues and funk into their sound, never released a weak album, always made interesting, entertaining music.
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20.08.2023 - 15:52
Guib
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Written by AndyMetalFreak on 20.08.2023 at 10:16

It's great to see the evolution of what's possibly the most difficult genre for me to fully digest. I never really liked the term nu metal myself either, but it is what it is, and I appreciate the way metal has developed over the years regardless. I like the idea of experimenting and trying something new in metal, but I'm more of a traditionalist myself and have always preferred the simpler way, with catchy melodies and easy to digest songwriting, but even traditional forms of heavy, black and death metal are influenced by one genre or another.


Of course even more traditional & extreme metal bands throw in non-metal influences here and there. When you think about it I could've thrown a lot of folk metal bands in here or even some more technical ones that dabble in prog and instrumental music in the extremes of metal (death metal would have some interesting picks).

Also, there's really nothing wrong with prefering a more traditional sound either. After all that is metal in its purest form.
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20.08.2023 - 21:44
Redel
Moderator
Great list, I like your choices. I am everything else but an expert or fan of these subgenres, plus I can only speak for their early years, say till the end of the nineties. But for that, I would say, you got it all there, dude.
There is maybe just a single band I am missing in the list overall. Not because they are particularly good, or very popular, but seeing you are calling this a guide, and also getting the impression that you seem to be trying to mention each relevant band at least once in the list overall, I have this one act to suggest. It is Life Of Agony. Myself would pick the '93 debut I guess, the album I know best, but I am aware that not everybody puts their debut in alternative metal. Their subsequent albums would probably qualify more easily.
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20.08.2023 - 23:54
Guib
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Written by Redel on 20.08.2023 at 21:44

I have this one act to suggest. It is Life Of Agony. Myself would pick the '93 debut I guess, the album I know best, but I am aware that not everybody puts their debut in alternative metal. Their subsequent albums would probably qualify more easily.


Hey Redel thanks for your comment man!

Now considering Life Of Agony, you're right their debut would absolutely fit in the list even if its more on the hardcore side. Though I would not replace any of the 93's 4 picks to put River Runs Red but it is an absolutely great release for sure!

Trust me picking was difficult and there's a lot of relevent bands that I've skipped. Even though they get a lot of hate, Limp Bizkit could easily be in this list but didn't make it just because some releases from other bands were simply superior to theirs in the relevent years. Especially in the 1993 spots I would have to remove some of the best alt albums ever made in my opinion. Slip, Deaf Dumb Blind, Pork Soda & Undertow are just classics of the genre.

But yeah great pick though tbh!
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21.08.2023 - 07:51
24emd
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Quite a few that I enjoy here, notably Soen and Devin Townsend. Will definitely check out some more of your picks!
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21.08.2023 - 15:41
Guib
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Written by 24emd on 21.08.2023 at 07:51

Quite a few that I enjoy here, notably Soen and Devin Townsend. Will definitely check out some more of your picks!


Great! Hope you'll discover some new stuff you'll like.
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21.08.2023 - 19:25
Blackcrowe
Not my kind of music but there is few great records
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21.08.2023 - 20:29
Cynic Metalhead
Paisa Vich Nasha
Great list, Guib.

You picked almost all worthy ones here especially P.O.D. Our guilty cheesy HS pleasure rap tracks with nu infused in were worthy to our attention like "Youth of a Nation".

Tremendous work.
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21.08.2023 - 20:30
Guib
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 21.08.2023 at 20:29

Great list, Guib.

You picked almost all worthy ones here especially P.O.D. Our guilty cheesy HS pleasure rap tracks with nu infused in were worthy to our attention like "Youth of a Nation".

Tremendous work.


Thanks man! Means a lot and I'm glad you enjoyed it
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22.08.2023 - 05:45
Guib
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Alright so first entry for 2023's spots:

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Voice Of Baceprot - Retas (Alternative, Nu, Funk Metal)

So this all women Indonesian act is absolutely great and their debut album is excellent. I love the composition, theme, energy and delivery and I hope they will keep making music of this quality in the near future. The only thing I enjoyed less are the lyrics which are somewhat weak and on the cringy side. Otherwise, an amazing alternative album! Extremely catchy.

I almost wish they would sing more in their own language because it sounds AMAZING on the track "School Revolution" which is my personal favourite. They do it a little too in "PMS". It just feels overall more natural and fluid. The music would absolutely benefit from it. That flow... I mean c'mon.

They could switch it up, mix it up in the vocal department "À La" Alien Weaponry as well and it would work wonders, especially since they harmonize too.

Anyways, great album go check it out now... C'mon go! What are you waiting for?

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Originality: 8
Performance: 8
Production: 8
Songwriting: 7
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23.08.2023 - 12:43
musclassia
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Alternative metal is a funny genre, partly because it's quite ill-defined (partly due to alternative rock also being very broad, I suppose); to some degree it has overlap with prog and unconventional structuring, as the likes of Tool, Karnivool and Wheel are testament to, but at the same time nu metal and other turn-of-the-millennium alt-metal is about as anti-prog as possible. I guess a sense of groove, varying accessibility, mild melodicism (nu metal would certainly have hooks, but they often weren't big poppy ones), and downtuning would be reliable features, but the description on the genre's wiki page of alt metal as "a style united by its nonconformist sensibility rather than any immediately classifiable sound" feels quite apt; certainly I find it a lot harder to define than most other metal genres.

Needless to say, it can be quite hit and miss in terms of me liking bands that fall under the alt-metal umbrella, but while I mostly missed out on the nu metal craze when growing up (I got into Linkin Park but didn't really go any further), the early 90s stuff (Alice In Chains, Faith No More, Jane's Addiction, RATM) was quite formative to my relatively late-blooming interest in metal (btw, how stacked was 1992 that there wasn't space for Dirt in your list - even if I'd pick it if I was doing such a list, none of the four in your list are unreasonable inclusions), and there's been a decent number of albums in recent iterations of the category in MSAs (particularly from Trivium, Wheel, Irist and Origin Of Escape) that I've enjoyed a lot.

For 2023 alt-metal, quite a few of these are borderline with other genres, but I've got some enjoyment out of the likes of Klone, Lokust, Mutoid Man, OHHMS, Spotlights, Sunbeam Overdrive and Venuvian's albums this year (and Ad Infinitum is doing a reasonable job of pivoting from symphonic metal towards alt-metal, even if I think they're wasting their talent considering how good their debut was).
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23.08.2023 - 13:59
Redel
Moderator
Written by musclassia on 23.08.2023 at 12:43

(btw, how stacked was 1992 that there wasn't space for Dirt in your list

I was missing Dirt as well, but then I thought he must have left it out on purpose, as it can be considered more heavy metal than alternative metal.
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23.08.2023 - 16:56
Guib
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Written by musclassia on 23.08.2023 at 12:43

(btw, how stacked was 1992 that there wasn't space for Dirt in your list - even if I'd pick it if I was doing such a list, none of the four in your list are unreasonable inclusions)


Hey musclassia,

Firstly thanks for the comment. Making this list was extremely fun and quite often did I find myself thinking "wait is this still alt-metal?". Especially with the more proggy and industrial bands. Also, its funny you mentionned Dirt because it was in the first iteration of my list which I changed before posting and it actually was removed for a more Industrial band.

Thing is, after reviewing it a few times I really wanted to include a Ministry album, even though it is more on the industrial side and if I was to... It was going to be Psalm 69 (it is the only Ministry inclusion). Then I didn't want to remove the RATM & Helmet's ones because I simply love those albums more (again a lot of subjective choices, it adds personality no?). So it was between Angel Dust and Dirt and I just decided to keep Angel Dust but it could've been either way honestly. I mean both Faith No More and Alice In Chains are well represented in the list already. Which of the two do you personally feel is more essential?
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23.08.2023 - 17:19
musclassia
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Written by Guib on 23.08.2023 at 16:56

I mean both Faith No More and Alice In Chains are well represented in the list already. Which of the two do you personally feel is more essential?


Honestly I'd say Dirt is perhaps slightly more essential just as the zenith of grunge IMO, but Angel Dust is incredibly close behind with how stellar and diverse it is - out of the 5 I'd drop Helmet (I never really got into that album outside of Unsung), but I totally recognize your reasons for having it in
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23.08.2023 - 19:08
Guib
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Written by musclassia on 23.08.2023 at 17:19

Written by Guib on 23.08.2023 at 16:56

I mean both Faith No More and Alice In Chains are well represented in the list already. Which of the two do you personally feel is more essential?


Honestly I'd say Dirt is perhaps slightly more essential just as the zenith of grunge IMO, but Angel Dust is incredibly close behind with how stellar and diverse it is - out of the 5 I'd drop Helmet (I never really got into that album outside of Unsung), but I totally recognize your reasons for having it in


Yeah its very nostalgic for me as I actually got into Helmet's Meantime way before, same for RATM. I really only got to know Alice In Chains better (I knew them by name of course) much later in my rock/metal journey somehow. Which is weird all things considered now, but hey!

Also your point is taken and I'll swap Angel Dust with Dirt! Like I said, to me at this point one or the other Im fine with.
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23.08.2023 - 21:34
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Written by musclassia on 23.08.2023 at 12:43


For 2023 alt-metal, quite a few of these are borderline with other genres, but I've got some enjoyment out of the likes of Klone, Lokust, Mutoid Man, OHHMS, Spotlights, Sunbeam Overdrive and Venuvian's albums this year (and Ad Infinitum is doing a reasonable job of pivoting from symphonic metal towards alt-metal, even if I think they're wasting their talent considering how good their debut was).


For 2023, I've already put Lokust's release in my Thrash List. As for Klone it's a good release but I'm not crazy about it. I'd say it's between a 7 - 7.3 for me, maybe I'll grow to enjoy it more. I will check your other recommendations though, thanks a lot!
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02.09.2023 - 05:16
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Alright, the second entry for 2023's spots is all thanks to musclassia.

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Mutoid Man - Mutants (Hardcore, Progressive Sludge, Alt Metal)

Ok so first off, I gotta admit I've been lagging behind a bit as this is actually my first acquaintance with the band. Yup, and what a meeting this was! The first thing that comes to mind with that album is entertaining. Its a party ride from A to Z.

Mutoid Man is like... If you would have crossover thrash metal flirting with prog and sludge. On paper this sounds goddamn awful but in practice, it works just fine and you end up getting a catchier, party central Mastodon. Nah, yeah stop frowning and trust me with this, it's the perfect description. This release is so catchy and fun while remaining instrumentally very strong, a pure delight for the ears.

On top of that, I love my 4 strings and Jeff Matz's heavy, sludgy bass is just crushing it on this one. All in all a fantastic release that makes me wanna explore their discography further.

What a cool band and once again a huge thanks to musclassia for pointing them out to me!

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Guib's Rating: 9/10

Originality: 9
Performance: 9
Production: 8
Songwriting: 10

Guib's Highlights: "Graveyard Love" - "Broken Glass Ceiling" - "Setting Sun" - "Call Of The Void" - "Siren Song"

Edit: Ok so I've changed my rating because I can't stop spinning this fucking album, the songs stay stuck in my head and it's just brilliant.
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04.09.2023 - 04:39
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Now, now! A third entry for 2023's spots.

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Soen - Memorial (Alternative, Progressive Metal)

Yup, it seems to me Soen is a bit like Dozer, right? Not in style silly, in the sense that they just can't put out a bad album. Both bands showed us that loud and clear this year and Soen did so by remaining true to their couple last releases. That's good for now, but I'm left wondering how long will this formula work?

The album itself is really good, apart from the quite generic "Violence" the rest screams quality music. Also, can I point out how brilliant "Hollowed" is? Exceptionally well executed duet-style song and it surprises us right in the middle of the album. Very beautiful and one of my favourites on this one.

Where the album lacks a bit is in originality, really. As I said, we've heard it all before and this formula could become stale quickly. In my opinion the band should probably switch gear on the next release, but hey! That's just me. Overall, great work on Memorial and it's an easy recommend.

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Guib's Rating: 7.8/10

Originality: 6
Performance: 9
Production: 9
Songwriting: 7

Guib's Highlights: "Sincere" - "Fortress" - "Icon" - "Hollowed (Elisa)" - "Memorial"
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30.01.2024 - 21:26
Jaro
You've got two early 2024 candidates in Madder Mortem's Old Eyes, New Heart and Charcoal Grace from Caligula's Horse.
Both great albums in my opinion.
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03.02.2024 - 16:33
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Written by Jaro on 30.01.2024 at 21:26

You've got two early 2024 candidates in Madder Mortem's Old Eyes, New Heart and Charcoal Grace from Caligula's Horse.
Both great albums in my opinion.


Hey Jaro! Thanks for those early 2024 recs Im gonna check this out
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22.02.2024 - 04:51
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Alright, for the last entry of 2023 I'm adding:

Molybaron - Something Ominous

I really enjoy this album, it definitely deserves its spot.
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24.02.2024 - 18:38
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Written by Jaro on 30.01.2024 at 21:26

You've got two early 2024 candidates in Madder Mortem's Old Eyes, New Heart and Charcoal Grace from Caligula's Horse.
Both great albums in my opinion.


Alright so I gave Madder Mortem's latest a chance but it honestly doesn't do much for me, it doesn't keep me engaged at all and the vocals aren't something I really care for on this one.

Though, Im really digging the latest Caligula's Horse. Very solid album, I'm gonna have to give it a bit more time to see how it grows on me but this one could very well end up on the list.

So yeah thanks again for the recs I always appreciate it and even though sometimes it takes me a little while to get around to it, I always listen to the recs ppl give me.
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27.03.2024 - 03:25
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Alright so as a first entry for my 2024 alternative picks and as suggested by Jaro, I'm adding:

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Caligula's Horse - Charcoal Grace
(Alternative, Progressive Metal)

I mean, another very good release by a band which, at this point, needs no introduction and simply never disappoints. I suppose I could go in details on that one but I'll let musclassia's awesome review do the talking. musclassia does it better than I could ever anyways.

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Guib's Rating: 7.8 / 10

Originality: 6
Performance: 9
Production: 8
Songwriting: 8
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