Khanate
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Original post
Posted by Unknown user, 02.06.2006 - 07:24
Zombie, M.D. |
09.06.2006 - 16:40
@JoeDoom: As Tommy Tee said, I stated it was drone DOOM because "drone" isnt a metal/rock oriented genre. As far a stretch as it is, Khanate is rock oriented at its core. I wasnt aware I had to be listening to a band since its conception in order to not be a bandwagon jumper. So what if I only got into doom/drone heavily in the last few years? How does this effect anything at all? I also didnt say Khanate was an ambient band, I said "...it can be ambient", which the music can be at times. You just seem to be upset that Im giving your friend Despondency a hard time.
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Ba'al Peor Account deleted |
09.06.2006 - 16:46 Ba'al Peor
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"@Ba'al Peor - No, a difference of opinion dosen't make somone ignorant. Placing a band in an obvious incorrect genre does. Awwww... I bet you looked through all of my posts until you found a mispelled word.. You're such a cutie. ^_^ I love 16 year old Aussies. =)" And what makes your definitions of genres and musical tastes so much more valid than everyone elses when you are the only one who doesnt explain or validate your responses (or at least attempt a reply, whether it is right or wrong)?
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Southern Wind Account deleted |
09.06.2006 - 17:26 Southern Wind
Account deleted Written by [user id=14045] on 09.06.2006 at 06:49 Nice comment by someone who talks about Tristania as "depressive black metal" get a life
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-tom- Mr FancyPants |
10.06.2006 - 00:22
i wouldn't call it 'drone doom' if it has no drums or vocals. 'drone doom' implies that its metal (doom METAL?). i wouldn't describe hitting a chord on a bass and letting it ring out for 3 seconds before striking another without any other instruments or vocals as metal.
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Ba'al Peor Account deleted |
10.06.2006 - 07:07 Ba'al Peor
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"Alright. First off. @Southern Wind - Learn to read. I said they were my opinions. You cannot tell me that MY opinions are false. You should read my post before commenting on it. Besides, you don't know shit about black metal. So I laugh at your questioning of my reasoning." Then why are Southern Winds' opinions all suddenly false? And i fail to see where he questioned anything you said in his last post....
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Falcon |
10.06.2006 - 08:47 Written by [user id=5399] on 10.06.2006 at 07:07 Ah, don't waste more energy on him, he's just an idiot
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JoeDoom Account deleted |
10.06.2006 - 12:38 JoeDoom
Account deleted Written by -tom- on 09.06.2006 at 14:35 This is actually a fairly well articulated response... Written by -tom- on 10.06.2006 at 00:22 Clearly there are metal bands out there who are purely instrumental. Clearly there are metal bands who use only bass guitars or no bass guitars. And clearly there are metal bands who hit a chord and let it ring out of 3 seconds before striking another. So you're only argument for Sunn O))) not being doom metal is that there needs to be the presence of drums in order for something to be metal (your other points are moot). So if Autopsy's riffs were played without drumming, it would cease to be metal? You say Autopsy's riffs would still contain enough conventions in death metal for it to remain metal... and Sunn O))) does not some how have enough to remain drone doom metal? Last time I checked Sunn O)))'s music wasn't done by accordions or harmoniums.
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JoeDoom Account deleted |
10.06.2006 - 12:41 JoeDoom
Account deleted Written by [user id=14045] on 09.06.2006 at 23:41 This angsty teen just seems to have his panties all up in a twist ![]()
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JoeDoom Account deleted |
10.06.2006 - 12:48 JoeDoom
Account deleted Written by Zombie, M.D. on 09.06.2006 at 16:40 I never said you were conclusively a trend hopper. The facts merely suggest that conclusion. The rise in popularity of drone doom and your sudden interest in the genre may be coincendental. It's also "affect," not "effect." But on that point, only having listened to a genre for so long is fairly well correlated to your experience and knowledge with it. Obviously this depends also on your ability to learn, motivation, and resources/environment, but these are more difficult to judge and quantify.
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-tom- Mr FancyPants |
10.06.2006 - 17:37 Written by [user id=14224] on 10.06.2006 at 12:38 a recording of autopsy's riffs played without vocals and drums could still be considered metal because the guitarwrok is based around what is considered the standard in metal. sunn o's music is not. there are riffs, but they would hardly be considerd standard of metal in thwe same way autopsy (for example) would. the fact its played on a bass guitar rather than an instrument usually not associated with metal is irrelevent. i consider them metal in the view that their intention was to create the same type of slow heaviness of doom, but they have taken it to too much of an extreme to still be considerd metal
---- "This rudderless world is not shaped my metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It's us. Only us" Read Watchmen.
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Southern Wind Account deleted |
10.06.2006 - 18:21 Southern Wind
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mmm there are genres that not being Metal, they SOUND Metal.. among them, there are some that has some roots in Metal an other ones that not at all (like sludge or noisecore for example)... About Drone Doom, I'm not an expert a all... I had been listening to this genre since not more than one year ago and only few bands (I actually confess that my interest for Sunn O))) and then for Khanate and Earth was due to that weird "elitist trend" that happens from time to time), and I see it that, although it's a genre that is not Metal a lot, have the heaviness and stunning density that some metalheads tend to like... I won't fall in the game of saying "this is not metal because it lacks this riff or that is metal cause it has that drumbeat", but I consider that most people who likes Metal like a special force in music, and drone can give that. About Khanate, I don't have the knowledge resources necessary to give arguments about if they are metal or not, but they WITHOUT DOUBT sound Metal.
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Dyscolia Account deleted |
04.08.2006 - 23:41 Dyscolia
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Khanate are definately metal, no doubt about that. On www.doom-metal.com Khanate falls under an undefinable category of bands just for everyone's information, meaning that there is no definite style that would describe their music (if you can call it music) But personally I would consider them to be closer to Drone doom. They have a lot of drone elements, even though they use drums n vocals (presence or absence of which which is not a criteria for droneness). Also I found their album worse off than their Khanate release. But that is just a matter of taste.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
10.10.2006 - 12:26 Written by [user id=15272] on 04.08.2006 at 23:41 I agree whit you I had hear this album ''Khanate'' an dthis band are drone doom lyrics, music sound albums all ist drone doom ![]()
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Southern Wind Account deleted |
12.10.2006 - 15:44 Southern Wind
Account deleted Written by Bad English on 10.10.2006 at 12:26 Mmmm I can't really think what do you mean with "Drone Doom Lyrics"... if the genre is musically difficult to define, lyrically it would be impossible as it doesn't have an original lyrical style.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
12.10.2006 - 16:08 Written by [user id=5080] on 12.10.2006 at 15:44 Thats what I mean all lyrics can be Drone, read Sun O))) ist wierd lyrics, this abnd ha ssame and I agree its hard to define drome doom
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11.12.2006 - 19:10 Om
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Khanate is one of those bands that you can't really compare to any 'look-a-likes' - I think they're quite unique and I think that's mainly because of the vocals. They're sick, painful, suffocating - just awesome. I love the minimalism of the music in total in which you hear more every time you listen.
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!J.O.O.E.! Account deleted |
23.04.2010 - 03:03 !J.O.O.E.!
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Boink. Just because I really, really liked their last album. More dark ambient than extreme doom or whatever you want to call whatever they used to play (which never really interested me that much, prefered Burning Witch's style). So is the Clean Hands album really the last one?
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
23.04.2010 - 17:50 Written by [user id=4365] on 23.04.2010 at 03:03 I think that it is their last one... I haven't read anything more about this guys. The last album was just ok. I preffer their other albums over the last one.
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