NorthernDickhead
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23.04.2014 - 08:00Rating: 7
This review raise my expectations...good job R'Vannith
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scaesura
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23.04.2014 - 08:02Rating: 6
Without Collapsing Words and especially Lose to Night, this album would be much better. As is it's merely an improvement on the decidedly mediocre/stale previous effort.
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Fallen Ghost Craft Beer Geek
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Great review! And nice to see it getting such a high score. I'm tired of melodic death, but there's something with this band, so I ordered the CD. It also seems that it has a better production than One For Sorrow had, which is very pleasing to me
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annodomini
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23.04.2014 - 09:09Rating: 9
Most of Insomnium fans complained that the last Omnium Gatherum album was unoriginal and a copycat of Insomnium. I would agree on this if we concer about the style, but the songwriting in OM is much better than the last 3 Insomnium albumas (including this one). I don't know, maybe most of you are praising Insomnium techniqque or what, but OM melodies stuck in my head after first listening, and every time I listen, every time it attracts me. But when I listened to "Shadows..." yesterday I felt nothing. Nothing memorable. Some great guitar line, cold atmosphere, but thats it. I believe I will never get in to Insomnium, so I guess I have to stop trying and stick with OM and Mors Principium Est.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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23.04.2014 - 09:42Rating: 9
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This is an interesting album and definitely an evolution of sorts. I totally didn't expect a song like "Lose To Night" and how the last two tracks build up. I think there's a surprise in store for many listeners.
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MHOE
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Written by annodomini on 23.04.2014 at 09:09
Most of Insomnium fans complained that the last Omnium Gatherum album was unoriginal and a copycat of Insomnium. I would agree on this if we concer about the style, but the songwriting in OM is much better than the last 3 Insomnium albumas (including this one). I don't know, maybe most of you are praising Insomnium techniqque or what, but OM melodies stuck in my head after first listening, and every time I listen, every time it attracts me. But when I listened to "Shadows..." yesterday I felt nothing. Nothing memorable. Some great guitar line, cold atmosphere, but thats it. I believe I will never get in to Insomnium, so I guess I have to stop trying and stick with OM and Mors Principium Est.
I love both Insomnium and modern Omnium Gatherum (last two albums were stunning, previous work was good IMHO)... And man, even though I LOVE Insomnium stuff for many years (top-3 metal band for me), I must admit that Beyond is better than everything Insomnium created so far (not having heard Shadows of the dying sun). Beyond is such a masterpiece... One of my favourite metal albums of all time. I literally cannot think of any metal album that I find better RIGHT NOW.
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bodomdragon
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Excellent album. However, I wonder why they released a new version of "Ephemeral". IMO the single version sounded much better.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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23.04.2014 - 11:59Rating: 9
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Written by bodomdragon on 23.04.2014 at 11:45
However, I wonder why they released a new version of "Ephemeral". IMO the single version sounded much better.
The album version is much more in line with how the rest of it sounds. I could place a small bet on that this is the original mix, not the single.
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Reaper_Redeemer
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23.04.2014 - 12:26Rating: 7
"we're granted yet another excellent album from this premier melodic death metal band"
I completely disagree with this. Insomnium is my favourite band, I like Omnium Gatherum too. But this album is by far the weakest I 've listened of them. Tracks like "Revelation" made me snore.... The blend they tried to do create is unsuccessful in my opinion but of course my opinion does not count at all. In the whole album I 've listened just an interesting riff and it is the intro of "Until we sleep".
Production is considered of course well made but the final result made me disgust this band!
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Risto Wandering Midget
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23.04.2014 - 13:56Rating: 9
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Written by Reaper_Redeemer on 23.04.2014 at 12:26
In the whole album I 've listened just an interesting riff and it is the intro of "While we sleep".
Which is the most blatantly recycled theme on the entire record ![](/images/smilies/lol.gif) Not that it's a bad song.
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bladefall
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Written by Reaper_Redeemer on 23.04.2014 at 12:26
In the whole album I 've listened just an interesting riff and it is the intro of "While we sleep".
Please listen "Down with the sun" again.You will find that riff at 1:30 to 1:45.
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Wes
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23.04.2014 - 16:14Rating: 10
So far I like it better than any album since their debut. Actually I hated their other albums.
The Omnium Gatherum "Beyond"-esque guitars make the album for me really. Enjoying it thoroughly!
Favorite song so far, "Lose To Night"
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Stoned Crow
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I got bored with Beyond, and I still find NWS enjoyable; truly don't understand the praise for Beyond. As for the review, and this album, I agree with the score. The second half of this album surprised me. Favorite track: The River.
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IronArkadius666
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23.04.2014 - 17:07Rating: 10
I love Insomnium and I really enjoy what I've heard so far of this album, but Beyond really set the bar for me in terms of melodic death metal.
I don't think this will be as good Beyond and that doesn't surprise me, but I am currently loving what I have heard. Beyond was just so fresh and exciting and nothing I'd ever heard before, even when compared to NWS.
Anyway, as much I have like what I have heard, I fear Insomnium is in danger. I've no hate for this album so far but if they release another album like this, and the one before... and the one before... and the one before... you get the idea. If they do another album they'll need a drastic change in something before they follow In Flames' footsteps.
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Fallen Ghost Craft Beer Geek
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Written by MHOE on 23.04.2014 at 10:31 Beyond is such a masterpiece... One of my favourite metal albums of all time.
I don't understand this overwhelming love for Beyond; I got very disappointed with that record, I got bored of it actually. Enjoyed New World Shadows though.
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Reaper_Redeemer
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23.04.2014 - 21:39Rating: 7
Written by bladefall on 23.04.2014 at 14:22
Written by Reaper_Redeemer on 23.04.2014 at 12:26
In the whole album I 've listened just an interesting riff and it is the intro of "While we sleep".
Please listen "Down with the sun" again.You will find that riff at 1:30 to 1:45.
I meant the opening riff of the video clip. In the album it is played in the intro track. The riff you are referring to is similiar to the one in "Until we sleep" but there are different notes and it is written in a different scale. Rythmic pattern is probably the same and yeah Insomnium are well known for recycling thir own riffs.
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MHOE
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Written by Fallen Ghost on 23.04.2014 at 21:26
Written by MHOE on 23.04.2014 at 10:31 Beyond is such a masterpiece... One of my favourite metal albums of all time.
I don't understand this overwhelming love for Beyond; I got very disappointed with that record, I got bored of it actually. Enjoyed New World Shadows though.
I don't know. I really rate Insomnium higher than Omnium Gatherum in general (on my personal list, Insomnium are in the top 3 while Omnium Gatherum rather top 10 or top 15)... but I wouldn't hesitate to give Beyond a clear 10/10. The album even surpasses Across the Dark for me. Or Wintersun debut... Or Mirror of Madness... Or Of Breath and Bone... I cannot really think of a better modern melodeath album. But of course, this is only IMHO - I am completely fine with different views :-)
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Dark Blood The Avenger
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24.04.2014 - 01:22Rating: 9
I didn't have any doubts about this release and this review proves my theory that these guys nailed it, once again. Thanks sharing
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Mattybu
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As I would expect, a well written review, but sounds like this once again wouldn't be my cup of tea. I found One for Sorrow pretty dull and based on the review they didn't shake things up too much.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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24.04.2014 - 09:51Rating: 9
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Written by Mattybu on 24.04.2014 at 03:52
I found One for Sorrow pretty dull and based on the review they didn't shake things up too much.
It is a little different, tracks 5 and 10 in particular should make this quite clear. I believe this is what R'Vannith is pointing out in the fourth paragraph.
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Wes
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24.04.2014 - 12:13Rating: 10
Written by Risto on 24.04.2014 at 09:51
Written by Mattybu on 24.04.2014 at 03:52
I found One for Sorrow pretty dull and based on the review they didn't shake things up too much.
It is a little different, tracks 5 and 10 in particular should make this quite clear. I believe this is what R'Vannith is pointing out in the fourth paragraph.
Songs 5 and 10 are certainly the best in my opinion.
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MHOE
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I may start to enjoy this album more after few more listens but I am personally certain about one thing - it's not on par with the best work of Insomnium (Above The Weeping World, Across The dark) or Omnium Gatherum (New World Shadows, Beyond).
The album so far seems to me like a rather mediocre blend of Insomnium and Omnium Gatherum styles. I love melodeath and I am sure I will start to enjoy this CD more but Insomnium are really getting significantly repetitive. I actually found One For Sorrow more original than this one.
EDIT: Yes, they should have done the whole album of songs like Lost To Night (number 5) and Shadows Of The Dying Sun (number 10)...
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Mattybu
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Written by Risto on 24.04.2014 at 09:51
Written by Mattybu on 24.04.2014 at 03:52
I found One for Sorrow pretty dull and based on the review they didn't shake things up too much.
It is a little different, tracks 5 and 10 in particular should make this quite clear. I believe this is what R'Vannith is pointing out in the fourth paragraph.
Well I was going mainly on the opening paragraph (although I did read the rest). "No less the same in style and execution than what preceded it". Which is good for people who like that style, not so much for me.
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b0sse
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Never liked Omnium Gatherum... They use way too much clean vocals. Ugh.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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24.04.2014 - 19:28Rating: 9
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Written by b0sse on 24.04.2014 at 19:23
Never liked Omnium Gatherum... They use way too much clean vocals. Ugh.
Beyond has less clean vocals than the last two Insomnium records.
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Opethian
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Unfortunately this album falls under the category of 'I'll check it out when I give a shit'. Last 2 albums were sub par to say the least. For those who are enjoying it, right on
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Stunning Cactus
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25.04.2014 - 08:20Rating: 8
Written by Fallen Ghost on 23.04.2014 at 21:26
Written by MHOE on 23.04.2014 at 10:31 Beyond is such a masterpiece... One of my favourite metal albums of all time.
I don't understand this overwhelming love for Beyond; I got very disappointed with that record, I got bored of it actually. Enjoyed New World Shadows though.
Completely agreed. After Luoto and New Dynamic, the album totally falls off. NWS maintains consist beauty and originality.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 ![](/images/avatars/1/105044) |
25.04.2014 - 09:26Rating: 9
Written by Opethian on 25.04.2014 at 01:31
Unfortunately this album falls under the category of 'I'll check it out when I give a shit'. Last 2 albums were sub par to say the least. For those who are enjoying it, right on ![](/images/smilies/smiley.gif)
This was posted on the band's Facebook a few days ago, I figured it might be ideal for your "situation"
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 ![](/images/avatars/1/105044) |
25.04.2014 - 09:30Rating: 9
Written by Risto on 24.04.2014 at 09:51
Written by Mattybu on 24.04.2014 at 03:52
I found One for Sorrow pretty dull and based on the review they didn't shake things up too much.
It is a little different, tracks 5 and 10 in particular should make this quite clear. I believe this is what R'Vannith is pointing out in the fourth paragraph.
Although the album doesn't do a great deal to distance itself from the previous material, I do find the track list to be pretty distinctive, considering solely the context of this album alone. The drumming provides much of the dynamism I think, and makes for a fairly varied listen. The last two tracks make a nice pair, probably my favourites.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 ![](/images/avatars/1/105044) |
25.04.2014 - 09:37Rating: 9
Written by Mattybu on 24.04.2014 at 03:52
As I would expect, a well written review, but sounds like this once again wouldn't be my cup of tea. I found One for Sorrow pretty dull and based on the review they didn't shake things up too much.
Much thanks. ![](/images/smilies/smiley.gif) Stylistically there isn't a great deal of difference, very much in the vein of previous albums. But I would encourage checking this out to see how much the drumming does for you, exceptional work I found.
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