nikarg StaffPosts: 7351 |
Welcome to reviewing! Cannot comment on the album because I haven't listened to it; I stopped listening to DT long before Portnoy left and, judging from this review, the album encapsulates everything I hate about prog.
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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29.12.2020 - 19:13Rating: 4
Written by nikarg on 29.12.2020 at 19:00
Welcome to reviewing! Cannot comment on the album because I haven't listened to it; I stopped listening to DT long before Portnoy left and, judging from this review, the album encapsulates everything I hate about prog.
Thank you ! I tried to do my best but obviously I'll get better with time, I'm still not sure of whether or not a negative review was the best place to start but here I am !
And concerning Dream Theater, I'd say that after Train Of Thought, every album only has a few good songs and a lot of filler, this one definitely being among the worst, I might do a "getting into Dream Theater" someday or something along those lines
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Pfft, Dream Theater wish they were as good as Disturbed.
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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29.12.2020 - 19:16Rating: 4
Written by Troy Killjoy on 29.12.2020 at 19:14
Pfft, Dream Theater wish they were as good as Disturbed.
Down with the sickness >>>> Octavarium
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Oracles
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By far their worst album and for me I just find a lot of their songs on this album boring, lacklustre, and going into "Iron Saviour same sound" territory on this one. Even the cover art is quite pathetic and ridiculously stupid looking. Now that doesn't mean they've regressed because their self-title is a great album, I liked The Astonishing more than most, and Distance over Time is a solid release too. It just seems that DToE is the poor execution of Portnoy leaving when DT clearly needed a break from music for a little bit and giving Pertucci/Rudess too much of the creative process especially with a new drummer. I think a 5.0 rating is even high for me...
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Oracles
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 29.12.2020 at 19:14
Pfft, Dream Theater wish they were as good as Disturbed.
Is this a jest? Disturbed is a great band no doubt, but DT is on another level.
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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29.12.2020 - 19:25Rating: 4
Written by Oracles on 29.12.2020 at 19:21
By far their worst album and for me I just find a lot of their songs on this album boring, lacklustre, and going into "Iron Saviour same sound" territory on this one. Even the cover art is quite pathetic and ridiculously stupid looking. Now that doesn't mean they've regressed because their self-title is a great album, I liked The Astonishing more than most, and Distance over Time is a solid release too. It just seems that DToE is the poor execution of Portnoy leaving when DT clearly needed a break from music for a little bit and giving Pertucci/Rudess too much of the creative process especially with a new drummer. I think a 5.0 rating is even high for me...
I probably agree with the fact that it is their worst, although I'm not the biggest fan of The Astonishing, at least it tried something. They couldn't really handle not having Portnoy and ended up relying too much on technicality and it kinda felt like they forgot who they were and what made their music great
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7351 |
Written by Roman Doez on 29.12.2020 at 19:13
Thank you ! I tried to do my best but obviously I'll get better with time, I'm still not sure of whether or not a negative review was the best place to start but here I am !
And concerning Dream Theater, I'd say that after Train Of Thought, every album only has a few good songs and a lot of filler, this one definitely being among the worst, I might do a "getting into Dream Theater" someday or something along those lines
I think that starting from a band you know very well is a good move. When reviewing, it is always useful to be aware of a band's discography, history, etc. Negative or positive is irrelevant I think, as long as you provide arguments for your opinion (and you certainly do in this review). Along with the stats article, this is a pretty cool way of introducing yourself to the MS community
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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29.12.2020 - 21:37Rating: 4
Written by nikarg on 29.12.2020 at 21:15
I think that starting from a band you know very well is a good move. When reviewing, it is always useful to be aware of a band's discography, history, etc. Negative or positive is irrelevant I think, as long as you provide arguments for your opinion (and you certainly do in this review). Along with the stats article, this is a pretty cool way of introducing yourself to the MS community
I made sure to read Apothecary's article on becoming a reviewer hahaha, starting with Dream Theater was my obvious choice, I grew up with them, and as I had a lot to say about this release I said why not ! I'm glad you like what I posted so far !
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 29.12.2020 at 19:14
Pfft, Dream Theater wish they were as good as Disturbed.
Man once ana misselled name, she wrote porntroy.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Nice intro about wankery, well to me it is and I dislike their after images n words. Fates Warning is much much better song writing even now as this band was, not talking about it now. I dislike it same as dont KD and MF, Venom and few other big names in the game.
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Robdog
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29.12.2020 - 23:31Rating: 7
How can anyone rate this so low!? It's better than Nu Metal and it's still listenable.
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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29.12.2020 - 23:36Rating: 4
Written by Robdog on 29.12.2020 at 23:31
How can anyone rate this so low!? It's better than Nu Metal and it's still listenable.
5/10 = bad
I found this album to be bad, simple as that, and it being better than nu metal doesn't mean much if you consider nu metal as 4/10 for example. It's listenable for sure, but still bad
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CWA
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30.12.2020 - 01:43Rating: 9
This review was really just a pointless parroting of all the points that the "Dream Theater sucks now" hate mob likes to spam on internet forums; not that I'm in full disagreement with the review by any means. I was surprised however, to not see a comment about how James Labrie is the worst singer ever. That's standard these days when talking about "bad" Dream Theater albums, lol.
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30.12.2020 - 03:28Rating: 9
Never understood the hate for this album. I think it's one of their strongest, possibly even their best. It has *just* the right amount of technical wankery, but doesn't overdo it like so many of their other albums do. Nearly every track is unique and carries powerful, memorable melodies.
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Robdog
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30.12.2020 - 11:06Rating: 7
Written by Roman Doez on 29.12.2020 at 23:36
Written by Robdog on 29.12.2020 at 23:31
How can anyone rate this so low!? It's better than Nu Metal and it's still listenable.
5/10 = bad
I found this album to be bad, simple as that, and it being better than nu metal doesn't mean much if you consider nu metal as 4/10 for example. It's listenable for sure, but still bad
After reading your review I listened to this album again today on shuffle to see if I could find anything "bad" about it, sure it has it's less interesting moments but I never found myself thinking "that's bad, this is bad, that's terrible" etc. I was still able to listen to the whole album without cringing. What I don't get is why people are in love with Ayreon! That stuff totally messed up. Ayreon is like the official hippy to metalhead transitional therapy program.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Robdog on 29.12.2020 at 23:31
How can anyone rate this so low!? It's better than Nu Metal and it's still listenable.
Are you trying to start provocative shitstorm?
Hmmm you got point, in that case we need re vote in Nu metal whit 2 or 3.
Well indeed Nu metal is bad, but this is bad as well, then I will say nu metal is even worst unless its old MTv2 teenage colage video songs whit teenage chicks n teenage party in it
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Robdog
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30.12.2020 - 11:45Rating: 7
Written by Bad English on 30.12.2020 at 11:15
Written by Robdog on 29.12.2020 at 23:31
How can anyone rate this so low!? It's better than Nu Metal and it's still listenable.
Are you trying to start provocative shitstorm?
Hmmm you got point, in that case we need re vote in Nu metal whit 2 or 3.
Well indeed Nu metal is bad, but this is bad as well, then I will say nu metal is even worst unless its old MTv2 teenage colage video songs whit teenage chicks n teenage party in it
Would you suppose that if this album was written by some other band you haven't listened to before you might actually rate it higher for what it was... But because this is Dream Theater we're talking about you agree that it's "bad" compared to their previous work? If so then that is not a fair or accurate rating. Dream Theater is not my favorite band but this album in my opinion as it is, on it's own and not considering who wrote it is definately worth a 7/8-10.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Robdog on 30.12.2020 at 11:45
Would you suppose that if this album was written by some other band you haven't listened to before you might actually rate it higher for what it was... But because this is Dream Theater we're talking about you agree that it's "bad" compared to their previous work? If so then that is not a fair or accurate rating. Dream Theater is not my favorite band but this album in my opinion as it is, on it's own and not considering who wrote it is definately worth a 7/8-10.
I never liked this band, they are bad song writers. Check out my old comments
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Robdog
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30.12.2020 - 11:50Rating: 7
Poor songwriting goes like this: 4/4 - intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-outro. That junk is for Sesame Street. No inspiration, no effort, no passion and no creativity.
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Robdog
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30.12.2020 - 11:56Rating: 7
Written by Bad English on 30.12.2020 at 11:50
I never liked this band, they are bad song writers. Check out my old comments
Well Fates Warning Parallels has incredible songwriting and from memory I don't even think they used double-bass but lots of hi-hat work which was unique.. Too bad all their other albums are slightly alternative and boring although I haven't heard any of their old-old albums.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Bass dont means, FW songs works, not DT somehow they compose boring music what dont work, its like riverside.
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musclassia StaffPosts: 7629 |
30.12.2020 - 12:13Rating: 7
I think this is a very mixed album - Breaking All Illusions is a fantastic song, and On The Back Of Angels, Bridges In The Sky and Outcry have very good stretches. However, the other songs are very subpar; the ballads (why they included 3 I do not know) are very bland, and Build Me Up is very uninspired. I fluctuate between a 6 and a 7 for this album; it's better than The Astonishing for sure, but the self-titled is a tad more consistent and Distance Over Time is a far better album
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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30.12.2020 - 15:03Rating: 4
Written by CWA on 30.12.2020 at 01:43
This review was really just a pointless parroting of all the points that the "Dream Theater sucks now" hate mob likes to spam on internet forums; not that I'm in full disagreement with the review by any means. I was surprised however, to not see a comment about how James Labrie is the worst singer ever. That's standard these days when talking about "bad" Dream Theater albums, lol.
I actually enjoyed the self titled and Distance Over Time quite a bit, it's just this one that I can't seem to get into. And James is definitely not that bad, people tend to overexaggerate that, I don't find his voice annoying by any means
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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30.12.2020 - 15:08Rating: 4
Written by Robdog on 30.12.2020 at 11:06
After reading your review I listened to this album again today on shuffle to see if I could find anything "bad" about it, sure it has it's less interesting moments but I never found myself thinking "that's bad, this is bad, that's terrible" etc. I was still able to listen to the whole album without cringing. What I don't get is why people are in love with Ayreon! That stuff totally messed up. Ayreon is like the official hippy to metalhead transitional therapy program.
It all once again comes back to the eternal "this is just my opinion, yours might differ" point, of course some people will enjoy this album, some others won't, that's the case with all music. I found this album bad, you found it good, just a matter of opinions in the end.
And about Ayreon, I'm definitely not their biggest fan either, although I enjoyed The Human Equation, the rest of what I listened to from them doesn't do much for me
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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30.12.2020 - 15:17Rating: 4
Written by musclassia on 30.12.2020 at 12:13
I think this is a very mixed album - Breaking All Illusions is a fantastic song, and On The Back Of Angels, Bridges In The Sky and Outcry have very good stretches. However, the other songs are very subpar; the ballads (why they included 3 I do not know) are very bland, and Build Me Up is very uninspired. I fluctuate between a 6 and a 7 for this album; it's better than The Astonishing for sure, but the self-titled is a tad more consistent and Distance Over Time is a far better album
I pretty much agree with all that you said, apart from the ranking. I especially don't understand why the hell they chose to include so many ballads, considering they've always been pretty bad at them
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Robdog
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30.12.2020 - 15:28Rating: 7
Written by Roman Doez on 30.12.2020 at 15:03
Written by CWA on 30.12.2020 at 01:43
I actually enjoyed the self titled and Distance Over Time quite a bit, it's just this one that I can't seem to get into. And James is definitely not that bad, people tend to overexaggerate that, I don't find his voice annoying by any means
I used to think that James LaBrie was a long-haired pure-blonde lanky-homo-gay-man singer when first heard his voice.
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Robdog
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30.12.2020 - 15:38Rating: 7
Written by Bad English on 30.12.2020 at 12:12
Bass dont means, FW songs works, not DT somehow they compose boring music what dont work, its like riverside.
I just saw your profile... Your list of "favorite bands" pretty much contains the whole metalstorm database! How can you possibly love every other band except for DT and Riverside??? With a list like that you must have only listened to half of each of those album only once in your life! So I am questioning your judgement...
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JoHn Doe
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Written by Bad English on 30.12.2020 at 12:12
Bass dont means, FW songs works, not DT somehow they compose boring music what dont work, its like riverside.
Riverside and DT are two rather different bands.
what's "bass dont means"? WTF are you trying to say?
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JoHn Doe
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 29.12.2020 at 19:14
Pfft, Dream Theater wish they were as good as Disturbed.
apples and oranges
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