OKay, enough off-topicness, back to discussing Don't Break The Oath.

Lord Regnier are you a crackhead? Get a clue dude.

Written by ponderer on 09.06.2010 at 01:42

Lord Regnier are you a crackhead? Get a clue dude.

Only because I'm explaining matters I don't expect the average dumb metalhead will understand, it doesn't mean I can't be right.

Marcel and Angelic Storm might not agree on everything but they understand what I mean. As for you and Dayfly, you miss the point.

Anyway, in Dayfly's case, the 'ignore' function will be very convenient I guess.

There ya go, start ignoring people who have a different opinion than yours. That's real educated and mature on your part. You've already managed to alienate yourself by making absurd baseless proclamations on here in public so why not go a step further and just out yourself completely by ignoring everyone.

Marcel really hit the nail on the head when he said black metal was an atmosphere and feeling back in the early 80's. More importantly though, Mercyful Fate were doing something that nobody else really was at the time which was combining heavy metal riffing with progressive concepts. MF don't get a lot of credit for this, but if you go back and take a closer look at Melissa and Don't Break the Oath, you'll notice there are progressive concepts everywhere. How many structure, time changes and breaks are there in Satan's Fall and The Oath alone? MF were really touching upon something new that would within a few years time really explode which was progressive metal. Bands like Fates Warning would soon follow their lead but take things in a more mystical, fantasy type direction.

Mercyful Fate were definitely pioneering something unique and original but I wouldn't give them 100% credit for starting the whole black metal scene. Their themes and atmosphere were darker than most. How many bands in 1984 had a Satanic prayer as their main song on the album?

What the hell do these dumb punk ass kids know about music anyway? Their concept of black metal consists of heavy eyeliner, black clothing and extreme teen angst because OH BOO HOO they didn't get enough attention as a child. They know literally nothing about the origins of the music and concepts. They are all pampered little brats with a chip on their shoulder because they have no real past on which to base their musical ideas and opinions. In the end they all up end up cutting their own throats and outting themselves publicly anyway so it isn't worth stressing over and fighting about. Their opinions are worthless conjecture rooted in over-medicated self-loathing.

On a lighter note, where's my 6 pack of Piraat beer Marcel?

I'm surprised vezzy hasnt crashed the party yet

He doesn't have the balls or the fucking knowledge to even get involved in this topic. He didn't even know MF were black metal. It's a classic example of a kid growing up with a Nintendo 64 thinking that's the standard even though there were 2 decades of games before it. There's no future without acknowledging the past.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 28.06.2008 at 13:23

Written by ponderer on 28.06.2008 at 12:42



I think one of the main reasons people don't put Mercyful Fate in the Black Metal genre is because King isn't growling. You say "Black Metal" and kids today instantly think screaming and growling, but Black Metal was clearly rooted in darker themes with a relentless driving sound. Just sprinkle in some abstract progressive concepts and you've got Mercyful Fate.

What I see is that people who were into metal at the time Mercyful Fate released their first stuff are the ones who recognize it as black metal whereas today's kiddies have no notion of history and go all revisionist concerning these matters.

To be fair, I was born in 92, but i still consider this to be Black Metal. The difference between me and most of my generation's metalheads is that I took the time to learn the history of what i listen to before i act like i know what i am talking about. I see a lot of kids who think they know everything about metal and it pisses me off, ive been listening to the stuff since i was in elementary school and i still dont think i know nearly enough!

Written by squidrick420 on 15.02.2013 at 22:32
To be fair, I was born in 92, but i still consider this to be Black Metal. The difference between me and most of my generation's metalheads is that I took the time to learn the history of what i listen to before i act like i know what i am talking about. I see a lot of kids who think they know everything about metal and it pisses me off, ive been listening to the stuff since i was in elementary school and i still dont think i know nearly enough!

Modesty is a virtue. Keep it up.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 16.02.2013 at 22:06

Modesty is a virtue. Keep it up.

I don't mean to brag, but I was born in '97 and I'm the smartest metalhead of my time

Written by Alex F on 17.02.2013 at 01:49
and I'm the smartest metalhead of my time

You are not asian, so it's useless to brag or do anything of the sort. Nice try though.