Introspekrieg Totemic Lust ElitePosts: 2749 |
28.09.2011 - 08:21Rating: 7
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.09.2011 at 04:49 All I know is some of their early works were pretty good, but everything they've done post-Blackwater Park has just made me apathetic towards them.
Sad but true. Some of what they've done post-Blackwater Park has been at the "pretty good" level, but none of it has the creative spark that they had for the first five albums.
Honestly, it all comes down to perspective (it's the only thing we have left). But whatever divine being laid it's hand on the shoulders of those in Opeth during the Morningrise recording sessions has left, for sure. But the sheer rush of adrenaline I got from that album still shows up in minuscule amounts for any new album of theirs, so I guess I'm happy? It's almost like a band that has affected you in a profound way (your parental musical influence) always somehow reminds you of the good ole' days, yet at the same time you are depressed because they have become afflicted with Alzheimer's and don't remember who you are let alone themselves... it is what it is.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
28.09.2011 - 19:31Rating: 6
Written by Introspekrieg on 28.09.2011 at 08:21 they have become afflicted with Alzheimer's
I think they changed it to Metallica Syndrome.
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29.09.2011 - 13:06Rating: 8
For me, it's all about the songs. If you are upset by a change of direction, you're projecting your own preconceived ideas into it. It's extremely obvious to me that this was a conscious decision to make an artistic statement and to break away from the past. The songs are well developed, well recorded, and pretty cool. I really dig it. I think it's better than Damnation.
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Haha, saying that this album is better than Damnation really isn't saying much...
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Tornado Of Souls
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30.09.2011 - 17:46Rating: 7
The thing I find confusing is that people all say the contrast between heavy and soft sections is what makes Opeth good. Yet most of these people still like bands that only feature either only clean singing or only harsh vocals, why aren't Opeth allowed to release an album which just focuses on one vocal style?
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
30.09.2011 - 21:54Rating: 7
Written by Tornado Of Souls on 30.09.2011 at 17:46
The thing I find confusing is that people all say the contrast between heavy and soft sections is what makes Opeth good. Yet most of these people still like bands that only feature either only clean singing or only harsh vocals, why aren't Opeth allowed to release an album which just focuses on one vocal style?
people like different bands for different reasons. not sure why that is hard to understand. with opeth, it might very well be the dichotomy or shift that is attractive to fans.
they are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want, and fans are allowed to react however the fuck they want to those choices.
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01.10.2011 - 03:42Rating: 10
This review sucks almost as hard as Troy Gallant's taste in music.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
01.10.2011 - 04:12Rating: 7
Written by dr.death on 01.10.2011 at 03:42
This review sucks almost as hard as Troy Gallant's taste in music.
if that review is causing you such analpain, perhaps you should mosey over to MA and read what they're saying. with any luck your nerdrage will cause cardiac arrest...
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by BitterCOld on 01.10.2011 at 04:12
Written by dr.death on 01.10.2011 at 03:42
This review sucks almost as hard as Troy Gallant's taste in music.
if that review is causing you such analpain, perhaps you should mosey over to MA and read what they're saying. with any luck your nerdrage will cause cardiac arrest...
Hell must have frozen... I actually agree with some points from those reviews.
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
01.10.2011 - 19:37Rating: 6
Written by dr.death on 01.10.2011 at 03:42 This review sucks almost as hard as Troy Gallant's taste in music.
Just admit it, you like me too much to stay away.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.10.2011 at 19:37
Written by dr.death on 01.10.2011 at 03:42 This review sucks almost as hard as Troy Gallant's taste in music.
Just admit it, you like me too much to stay away.
Well, sucks to be him then. I won't share you, babe.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
02.10.2011 - 18:06Rating: 6
Written by X-Ray Rod on 02.10.2011 at 13:00 Well, sucks to be him then. I won't share you, babe.
Aww, I knew I could count on your love.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6103 |
02.10.2011 - 23:23Rating: 6
If someone, and I see shitloads of such someones, is outraged by the rating that this album got on MS, I suggest you head [URL=http://www.chroniclesofchaos.com/reviews/albums/2-6375_opeth_heritage.aspx]HERE[/URL] to read about more serious disappointment.
And by the way, the more I listen to this album, the less I like it. It's non-linear song structures aren't ambitious, they don't unfurl their magnificence after numerous listens. What was the great strength of Opeth on albums like Still Life is now the band's greatest weakness - the songs are incongruous, random and fucking boring.
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Written by Daniell on 02.10.2011 at 23:23
If someone, and I see shitloads of such someones, is outraged by the rating that this album got on MS, I suggest you head [URL=http://www.chroniclesofchaos.com/reviews/albums/2-6375_opeth_heritage.aspx]HERE[/URL] to read about more serious disappointment.
And by the way, the more I listen to this album, the less I like it. It's non-linear song structures aren't ambitious, they don't unfurl their magnificence after numerous listens. What was the great strength of Opeth on albums like Still Life is now the band's greatest weakness - the songs are incongruous, random and fucking boring.
Reviews like that are the reason I've lost most of the respect I once had for CoC. They used to be a great review site but they've lost it in recent years, giving out tens to crap and low scores for genuinely good stuff.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6103 |
02.10.2011 - 23:30Rating: 6
But Heritage isn't good stuff...
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And neither is it particularly bad stuff, nowhere near anything remotely bad. I probably won't go back to the album but a 4 is a disingenuously low score for solid piece of prog from the disappointed, the anti-prog and the bandwagon jumpers. Even myself who isn't into the genre can recognise the upsides of the album. Heritage is just as "boring" as much of the heralded doom, thrash and black thrown around these days, they just fall under a totally difference purview.
Of course that review is from the person that gave the recent MA a 2, so shows his professionalism. I think you should stop bating people though, they seem to have enough trouble digesting fair reviews like this without more fuel being added.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6103 |
02.10.2011 - 23:53Rating: 6
Written by [user id=4365] on 02.10.2011 at 23:33
And neither is it particularly bad stuff, nowhere near anything remotely bad. I probably won't go back to the album but a 4 is a disingenuously low score for solid piece of prog from the disappointed, the anti-prog and the bandwagon jumpers. Even myself who isn't into the genre can recognise the upsides of the album. Heritage is just as "boring" as much of the heralded doom, thrash and black thrown around these days, they just fall under a totally difference purview.
Here I agree. It definitely doesn't deserve a 4. After all it's well played and some songs are good, so anywhere between 6 and 7 is justified.
Written by [user id=4365] on 02.10.2011 at 23:33 I think you should stop bating people though, they seem to have enough trouble digesting fair reviews like this without more fuel being added.
Actually, what I meant was to say that MS isn't as harsh on this album as some other sites. Talk about hell being paved with good intentions
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by [user id=4365] on 02.10.2011 at 23:33
I think you should stop bating people though, they seem to have enough trouble digesting fair reviews like this without more fuel being added.
Totally, I mean...
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6103 |
03.10.2011 - 00:05Rating: 6
I prefer this one
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
03.10.2011 - 00:10Rating: 6
Written by [user id=4365] on 02.10.2011 at 23:33 a 4 is a disingenuously low score for solid piece of prog...the anti-prog...
I suppose I'm anti-prog...which is probably why I gave this a 4. I'm not anti-prog on purpose, and I don't check any prog out because I know I won't like it, but I had to look into this because I've heard everything else they've done, otherwise I would've simply overlooked it. Prog is just one genre I'll never get into.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
03.10.2011 - 00:12Rating: 6
Written by Daniell on 03.10.2011 at 00:05
That's awesome.
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JCJen7
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Ok, so I ordered the $55 tickets to an Opeth concert that is in about 2 weeks. It said it came with a signed copy of Heritage. I assumed that I would pick up the signed copy at the show, but then the CD randomly showed up at my house a couple days ago, with no signature. Anyone know anyting about how I am supposed to get the signatures that I paid a pretty penny for?
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
03.10.2011 - 09:26Rating: 6
Written by JCJen7 on 03.10.2011 at 09:23 Anyone know anyting about how I am supposed to get the signatures that I paid a pretty penny for?
Take it to the band members and demand one!
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dr.death ponderer again
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04.10.2011 - 22:55Rating: 10
Fans of this cd really need to check out the dvd with the 5.1 digital track on a good home theater. All kinds of goodness going on there.
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Hammer Pie
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Written by dr.death on 04.10.2011 at 22:55
Fans of this cd really need to check out the dvd with the 5.1 digital track on a good home theater. All kinds of goodness going on there.
Oh, is that where all the goodness went?
HEE HAW!
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
06.10.2011 - 19:58Rating: 6
Written by Hammer Pie on 06.10.2011 at 10:37 Oh, is that where all the goodness went?
HEE HAW!
My thoughts exactly.
And the donkey thing too.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Hammer Pie on 06.10.2011 at 10:37
Written by dr.death on 04.10.2011 at 22:55
Fans of this cd really need to check out the dvd with the 5.1 digital track on a good home theater. All kinds of goodness going on there.
Oh, is that where all the goodness went?
HEE HAW!
You won this thread man. Nice one.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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dr.death ponderer again
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07.10.2011 - 17:17Rating: 10
Thanks! Your 3rd grade level opinions mean so much to me.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
07.10.2011 - 19:38Rating: 6
Written by dr.death on 07.10.2011 at 17:17 Thanks! Your 3rd grade level opinions mean so much to me.
And your childish retorts mean so much to us.
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07.10.2011 - 22:08Rating: 7
There's not much I have to say about this album that hasn't been said already, but anyway - it is nothing I could have expected. For the good, and for the bad.
I cannot even make an opinion, for it sounds like a completely new, different group. They have not lost their sound or style, but most of everything else. There is no album in their previous discography to compare Heritage with, that's how I felt. I don't say it's bad,. I just say I can't imagine returning to it once again.
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