Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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01.07.2012 - 13:59Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 09.05.2012 at 06:09
Written by Scorpyin on 09.05.2012 at 03:32 You can't listen to undertow without hearing bits of ashes! I dunno why everyone hates this album so much, its not WORSE than anything they've previously released. Otherwise, this is EXACTLY the sound you should expect from lamb of god, I don't see why this album is so hated... (unless you hate the band to begin with, in which case, shutup and go listen to something you DO like...)
That's just inaccurate. Honestly I hope the majority of fans hate this - it shows that they expect more. Because this album is literally the most stripped down version of everything they've done. Ashes is practically progressive/technical thrash by comparison, as this album beats the same bland riff into your head repeatedly.
It should remind you of their previous works though. Because every idea from their back catalog has been simplified and condensed in order to release this monotonous drivel.
PS these guys were one of my favorite bands, and I still listen to Ashes regularly. I even listen to a few tracks from Sacrament and Wrath from time to time.
You're almost as repetitive as you claim this album to be. We heard you the first time, and the second time, and the third time and on and on about how much you don't like this album. Fair enough, you don't have to like everything they do. When does the time expire so that I can write my own review that gives a different point of view?
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
01.07.2012 - 17:03Rating: 5
Written by Ace Frawley on 01.07.2012 at 13:59 You're almost as repetitive as you claim this album to be. We heard you the first time, and the second time, and the third time and on and on about how much you don't like this album. Fair enough, you don't have to like everything they do. When does the time expire so that I can write my own review that gives a different point of view?
Go ahead and write your own glowing review any time, champ.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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02.07.2012 - 12:19Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.07.2012 at 17:03
Go ahead and write your own glowing review any time, champ.
Roger that.
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Jaeryd Nihil's Maw
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Written by Ace Frawley on 02.07.2012 at 12:19
Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.07.2012 at 17:03
Go ahead and write your own glowing review any time, champ.
Roger that.
I want to see this review of yours. Do you have an estimated release date? I can't wait!
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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27.12.2012 - 04:54Rating: 8
Written by Jaeryd on 27.12.2012 at 00:29
I want to see this review of yours. Do you have an estimated release date? I can't wait!
Funny you should ask because I was thinking of writing it today - or at least starting on it. I'm on holidays and have a bit of time. I've got a 15-month-old and she has kept me very busy over the past six months.
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Jaeryd Nihil's Maw
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Written by Ace Frawley on 27.12.2012 at 04:54
Written by Jaeryd on 27.12.2012 at 00:29
I want to see this review of yours. Do you have an estimated release date? I can't wait!
Funny you should ask because I was thinking of writing it today - or at least starting on it. I'm on holidays and have a bit of time. I've got a 15-month-old and she has kept me very busy over the past six months.
Sorry, just making a shitty joke. I know the feeling, I got kids myself. Once they start walking, you can't let them out of your sight for more than .5 seconds or they're getting into something they shouldn't be.
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Scorpyin
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22.02.2013 - 11:19Rating: 9
Written by Troy Killjoy on 09.05.2012 at 06:09
Written by Scorpyin on 09.05.2012 at 03:32 You can't listen to undertow without hearing bits of ashes! I dunno why everyone hates this album so much, its not WORSE than anything they've previously released. Otherwise, this is EXACTLY the sound you should expect from lamb of god, I don't see why this album is so hated... (unless you hate the band to begin with, in which case, shutup and go listen to something you DO like...)
That's just inaccurate. Honestly I hope the majority of fans hate this - it shows that they expect more. Because this album is literally the most stripped down version of everything they've done. Ashes is practically progressive/technical thrash by comparison, as this album beats the same bland riff into your head repeatedly.
It should remind you of their previous works though. Because every idea from their back catalog has been simplified and condensed in order to release this monotonous drivel.
PS these guys were one of my favorite bands, and I still listen to Ashes regularly. I even listen to a few tracks from Sacrament and Wrath from time to time.
That is just inaccurate (see, i can do it too). Everything I've said is all subjective, it's called an opinion chummly. Just because someone elses opinion is different that doesn't make them 'inaccurate' or wrong. You say its 'stripped down' and I'd say they've simplified their music and songs take one solid direction now, instead of being so all over the map with riffs and progressions. What you've said actually isn't really subjective either, and could legitly be called 'inaccurate', when have LOG ever released anything even remotely close to king me? Or hear Randy sing clean(ish) like in insurrection? Or hear LOG play their usual thrash style fused with a little bit of Lynyrd Skynyrd? Hardly a 'stripped down version of everything they've done'. Or maybe that's still subjective. Either way, what I said cannot be called wrong on the grounds that you understand what an opinion is...
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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22.02.2013 - 12:08Rating: 8
Written by Scorpyin on 22.02.2013 at 11:19
Written by Troy Killjoy on 09.05.2012 at 06:09
Written by Scorpyin on 09.05.2012 at 03:32 You can't listen to undertow without hearing bits of ashes! I dunno why everyone hates this album so much, its not WORSE than anything they've previously released. Otherwise, this is EXACTLY the sound you should expect from lamb of god, I don't see why this album is so hated... (unless you hate the band to begin with, in which case, shutup and go listen to something you DO like...)
That's just inaccurate. Honestly I hope the majority of fans hate this - it shows that they expect more. Because this album is literally the most stripped down version of everything they've done. Ashes is practically progressive/technical thrash by comparison, as this album beats the same bland riff into your head repeatedly.
It should remind you of their previous works though. Because every idea from their back catalog has been simplified and condensed in order to release this monotonous drivel.
PS these guys were one of my favorite bands, and I still listen to Ashes regularly. I even listen to a few tracks from Sacrament and Wrath from time to time.
That is just inaccurate (see, i can do it too). Everything I've said is all subjective, it's called an opinion chummly. Just because someone elses opinion is different that doesn't make them 'inaccurate' or wrong. You say its 'stripped down' and I'd say they've simplified their music and songs take one solid direction now, instead of being so all over the map with riffs and progressions. What you've said actually isn't really subjective either, and could legitly be called 'inaccurate', when have LOG ever released anything even remotely close to king me? Or hear Randy sing clean(ish) like in insurrection? Or hear LOG play their usual thrash style fused with a little bit of Lynyrd Skynyrd? Hardly a 'stripped down version of everything they've done'. Or maybe that's still subjective. Either way, what I said cannot be called wrong on the grounds that you understand what an opinion is...
I thought Troy Killjoy's review of this album was negatively biased so I wrote my own (I would say) more balanced review. See: http://metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=11463
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
29.05.2014 - 17:37Rating: 5
Written by deadone on 29.05.2014 at 08:36 Can't say I agree with the review.
It what heavy metal is and always has been without the pretentious progressive arty bullshit.
But I will admit it's certainly not on par with the 3 that preceeded it.
Remember when I said I wrote some reviews a while back that I look on as "learning experiences"? This is one of them.
Too biased and negative for the sake of it. In fact I'd like to re-write this even though I'm pretty sure my rating would stay about the same (with the possibility of jumping up at a 6 at best). I remember Ace was commenting about how opinionated it was and lacking in overall description and I tend to agree - I think my inner LoG fanboy at the time was just too upset about what I considered to be the first real dud in their discography.
You are right in that it doesn't try to be progressive or artsy or any of that stuff, and there's a ton of music I enjoy that follows those same lines, but I felt like this was just such a step back in terms of songwriting and incredibly derivative of a sound that already lacked in the creativity department. These guys are always fun to listen to when I need mindless aggressive music with a bit of a catchy edge and more discernible lyrics than your average death metal band, but this album wasn't fun for me to listen to at all.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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30.05.2014 - 05:21Rating: 8
Written by deadone on 30.05.2014 at 01:39
Fair call dude.
I do wonder if Randy's court case for manslaughter had to do with the generally poorer song writing on this one?
I thought the court case occurred after this album had been written and recorded.
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Written by Ace Frawley on 30.05.2014 at 05:21
I thought the court case occurred after this album had been written and recorded.
It did. Long before it, if I remember right.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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30.05.2014 - 14:10Rating: 8
Written by deadone on 30.05.2014 at 05:29
Written by Ace Frawley on 30.05.2014 at 05:21
Written by deadone on 30.05.2014 at 01:39
Fair call dude.
I do wonder if Randy's court case for manslaughter had to do with the generally poorer song writing on this one?
I thought the court case occurred after this album had been written and recorded.
The fan was killed in 2010.
Yeah, I know that but he was only arrested in June 2012 and the court case occurred after that. So that all happened long after the writing of the album. Or were you suggesting the incident and the thought of possibly being arrested may have had an impact on the writing of the album? I didn't know whether there was an arrest warrant out for him or not - if there was, I thought they would have avoided visiting the country.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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01.06.2014 - 02:43Rating: 8
Written by deadone on 31.05.2014 at 16:28
In any case having a fan's death hanging over you probably had a great impact on the band even if it was 100% accidental.
Especially as Randy's actions were directly related to the death.
Yeah, fair point then. I still think it's a good album though.
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Dr.Overkill26
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I think it's a great album too, a lot of the songs seem to have switched it up, instead of being groovy they're almost like Math Metal, It reminds me of AJFA with the constant Changes. And NO I'm not comparing Resolution with AJFA's Greatness, for me that album's a 10/10. While Resolution, while excellent in my opinion, Is certainly NOT.
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ferroy
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Welcome in indonesia 2015 \m/
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fever12
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You're confusing production for something else which is mixing and mastering
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Doge of Venice
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Written by fever12 on 04.05.2015 at 23:13
You're confusing production for something else which is mixing and mastering
What is your definition of production?
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