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Like I told you, I have been waiting for the full experience. I had to listen to Apostasis once, though.
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Apothecary Drone Strike
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Written by Guest on 21.10.2017 at 16:22
Like I told you, I have been waiting for the full experience. I had to listen to Apostasis once, though.
It's a pretty great track on its own, but I can definitely tell you (as one would probably guess), the difference between just listening to it on its own and listening to the full album with the previous four tracks flowing into it is enormous
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21.10.2017 - 21:36Rating: 8
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Yeah, let us huh "wait" for the full...
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Written by Karlabos on 21.10.2017 at 21:36
Yeah, let us huh "wait" for the full... 
Shhhhhhh
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Jaeryd Nihil's Maw
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Hey, Blut Aus Nord shared your review on Facebook!
Excellent review, by the way. Can't wait to hear the full thing myself.
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Written by Karlabos on 21.10.2017 at 21:36
Yeah, let us huh "wait" for the full... 
None o' that, please.
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Written by Jaeryd on 21.10.2017 at 22:53
Hey, Blut Aus Nord shared your review on Facebook!
One accomplishment to knock off my bucket list
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Why did you say mechanical?
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Written by angel. on 27.10.2017 at 11:43
Why did you say mechanical?
Because it is, Blut Aus Nord's black metal has a huge industrial influence to it. Synonyms
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Ok, I wanted to listen to it a few times before commenting, because after my first listen I was very disappointed and got bored towards the end. The vocals are indeed otherwordly and the overall atmosphere is really something else, but damn, I have the feeling of repetition way too often. It should have been trimmed and come out as an EP I think.
ps. If my restricted Latin knowledge serves me right, I think it means "God of my Salvation" (salutis=genitive of the word salus, which means salvation among other things but understanding isn't one of them).
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Written by nikarg on 27.10.2017 at 19:44
The vocals are indeed otherwordly and the overall atmosphere is really something else, but damn, I have the feeling of repetition way too often. It should have been trimmed and come out as an EP I think.
Have you really listened to Blut Aus Nord previously? Because repetition is kind of their thing, at least when they're going for a sound more like this
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Written by Apothecary on 27.10.2017 at 20:25
Have you really listened to Blut Aus Nord previously? Because repetition is kind of their thing, at least when they're going for a sound more like this
Yep, I'm more a fan of the MV albums, but this is irrelevant here of course. I do like The Work a lot, because the song-writing is equally great as the atmosphere, which is not the case in this latest one imo. I mean there is no "Choir of the Dead" or "Procession" or "Frozen Cells" here clearly. I'm not a big fan of MORT and the 777 albums. I haven't heard any of the Liber series or, if I have, I don't remember them. I'll try it a few times more anyway, I always do that with bands I like, but I will definitely leave some time to pass in order to hear it with fresh ears. I can't see it growing on me though...
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Written by nikarg on 27.10.2017 at 22:37
Yep, I'm more a fan of the MV albums, but this is irrelevant here of course. I do like The Work a lot, because the song-writing is equally great as the atmosphere, which is not the case in this latest one imo. I mean there is no "Choir of the Dead" or "Procession" or "Frozen Cells" here clearly
Well that seems to be the problem right there, you're going into new Blut Aus Nord searching for old Blut Aus Nord, which is to be found in subtle shades, if you really pay attention and know what to listen for, but the big point to take away from this band is that they never really do anything twice. There aren't any of the tracks you mentioned here because at the end of the day there really aren't meant to be
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Written by Apothecary on 28.10.2017 at 06:12
Written by nikarg on 27.10.2017 at 22:37
Yep, I'm more a fan of the MV albums, but this is irrelevant here of course. I do like The Work a lot, because the song-writing is equally great as the atmosphere, which is not the case in this latest one imo. I mean there is no "Choir of the Dead" or "Procession" or "Frozen Cells" here clearly
Well that seems to be the problem right there, you're going into new Blut Aus Nord searching for old Blut Aus Nord, which is to be found in subtle shades, if you really pay attention and know what to listen for, but the big point to take away from this band is that they never really do anything twice. There aren't any of the tracks you mentioned here because at the end of the day there really aren't meant to be
I was talking about the song-writing quality when I mentioned the three tracks, not the style. The sentence they are mentioned is used to prove the point of the one that precedes it.
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Daniell _爱情_
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The atmosphere is on a par with their best releases. The songwriting though...
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Written by Daniell on 30.10.2017 at 14:52
The atmosphere is on a par with their best releases. The songwriting though...
For the first time I agree with you
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30.10.2017 - 21:19Rating: 9
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Well you can achieve a good atmosphere only through a good songwriting
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Written by mz on 30.10.2017 at 21:19
Well you can achieve a good atmosphere only through a good songwriting 
Exactly
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No, I get what Paz and Daniell are saying (for the first time ever I think). I don't dislike it a lot myself, but when they say the atmosphere is better than the songwriting they mean the production, I think. The murky, old school death metal style fits them well. They don't like the songwriting, because compared to stuff like TWWTG, it's not that special.
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Written by Guest on 07.11.2017 at 16:04
No, I get what Paz and Daniell are saying (for the first time ever I think). I don't dislike it a lot myself, but when they say the atmosphere is better than the songwriting they mean the production, I think. The murky, old school death metal style fits them well. They don't like the songwriting, because compared to stuff like TWWTG, it's not that special.
I'm sorry, but if you go into this looking for anything of the caliber of TWWTG..... "you're gonna have a bad time." I don't understand how people can't seem to fathom that with some bands there are just one off, masterpiece releases that probably aren't going to ever be replicated again. TWWTG for Blut Aus Nord is one of them. You either get over that and find a way to enjoy their newer material, or you just sit and sulk because "oh, it's just not up to par." Well of course it's not up to par, you're asking for the band to recreate an incredibly superb, specific sound in their history. It doesn't just happen with a request and especially not with a band like BAN who aren't really too keen on repeating themselves to begin with.
Sorry for the semi rant, but it's just dumb to me. Expecting another TWWTG out of BAN is about as silly as expecting another Si Monumentum from Deathspell Omega, another Maniacal Vale from Esoteric, etc.
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Written by Apothecary on 07.11.2017 at 16:58
Sorry for the semi rant, but it's just dumb to me. Expecting another TWWTG out of BAN is about as silly as expecting another Si Monumentum from Deathspell Omega, another Maniacal Vale from Esoteric, etc.
Good point. But no one expected an album like Monotheist after shit like Cold Lake.
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Written by Guest on 07.11.2017 at 18:15
Good point. But no one expected an album like Monotheist after shit like Cold Lake.
That's different, there you're talking about a band striking back with a powerhouse release after a considerably lackluster one. I'm just saying it's rather unrealistic to look at a band's "masterpiece album" (if they have one) and expect subsequent material to reach the same level. You can certainly hope for it, but when it's pretty clear that said album was a monumental, one time only event, you shouldn't go into new albums anticipating Masterpiece 2.0. Kinda sets you up for disappointment
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Written by Apothecary on 08.11.2017 at 03:18
I'm just saying it's rather unrealistic to look at a band's "masterpiece album" (if they have one) and expect subsequent material to reach the same level.
Blut Aus Nord haven't been excellent since Odinist, which is not their "masterpiece", so one could expect something great to come out of this album songwriting wise after the shitty MV III. Now, I know, you are going to say that the 777 trilogy and the Ævangelist split were good, and sure, they were, but to most fans of the sound of TWWTG, it wasn't what they wanted. This album could have been the return to the Odinist sound if not TWWTG (songwriting-wise), but it was not. I don't dislike it as much as Paz and Daniell seem to, I am just trying to explain why their argument makes sense.
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Written by Guest on 08.11.2017 at 03:29
Blut Aus Nord haven't been excellent since Odinist, which is not their "masterpiece", so one could expect something great to come out of this album songwriting wise after the shitty MV III. Now, I know, you are going to say that the 777 trilogy and the Ævangelist split were good, and sure, they were, but to most fans of the sound of TWWTG, it wasn't what they wanted. This album could have been the return to the Odinist sound if not TWWTG (songwriting-wise), but it was not. I don't dislike it as much as Paz and Daniell seem to, I am just trying to explain why their argument makes sense.
I feel you. Color me a fanboy, but I enjoy everything BAN have done honestly, albeit in different ways. Even the MV albums because they illustrate that, at the end of the day, Vindsval just does whatever the fuck he wants, doesn't pander to fan wishes, and doesn't pigeonhole his composition solely into one approach. All important aspects of an "artist" that I immensely respect
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Written by Apothecary on 08.11.2017 at 03:34
I feel you. Color me a fanboy, but I enjoy everything BAN have done honestly, albeit in different ways. Even the MV albums because they illustrate that, at the end of the day, Vindsval just does whatever the fuck he wants, doesn't pander to fan wishes, and doesn't pigeonhole his composition solely into one approach. All important aspects of an "artist" that I immensely respect
I don't hate MV II as much, but the debut, MV I and III, the album after TWWTG (can't remember what it was called), and the 777 trilogy don't do it for me as much, although the 777 trilogy is better than the others I mentioned.
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12.11.2017 - 12:00Rating: 8
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Maybe it's just the fact that I haven't listened to anything from BaN for a long time, but I'm loving the shit out of this release. Yet another great album. Very good review too, I agree with every word.
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Daniell _爱情_
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I didn't compare this album to TWWTG. I just said that quality-wise it's far from their best work.
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Written by Daniell on 13.11.2017 at 09:58
I didn't compare this album to TWWTG. I just said that quality-wise it's far from their best work.
Yeah, comparing anything to TWWTG would be stupid, actually. Such a masterpiece, that album.
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Nice review.
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