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Suomi metal has nothing to do whit gothic doom, its gothic rock, Dead rock whit melankolisk touch as to die for, lullacry, him...
IMO he needs one band not many side projects,
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13.02.2020 - 21:55Rating: 8
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Written by Bad English on 13.02.2020 at 16:50
Suomi metal has nothing to do whit gothic doom, its gothic rock, Dead rock whit melankolisk touch as to die for, lullacry, him...
The point being the sound is reminiscent of what was at one time commonly referred to as 'suomi'. Immediately specific bands (sentenced, Charon, For My Pain) came to mind when the subgenre was noted. As you said, To/Die/For is indeed an example. Never do I really consider Insomnium, etc. to be under that specific genre umbrella (despite the translation essentially being Finnish Metal), but when the word suomi is presented to describe a particular sound, my ears perk up.
Funny enough, 17 bands fall under said subgenre in the metalstorm band search. These are spot on.
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14.02.2020 - 04:52Rating: 9
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Written by Bad English on 13.02.2020 at 16:50
Suomi metal has nothing to do whit gothic doom, its gothic rock, Dead rock whit melankolisk touch as to die for, lullacry, him...
IMO he needs one band not many side projects,
Compared to the Gothic rock of the 1980s, the so-called suomi metal is more related to pure Gothic metal from Finland rather than being part of Gothic/doom. As much as we all like to split hairs there's still stylistic differences with Gothic metal. For example, Gothic metal from the UK evolved from death-doom and then there's Gothic metal from Finland which crosses the fence between Gothic rock and Gothic metal. So, this kind of sound is still related to metal, but I do agree that it's not part of Gothic/doom it's just more pure Gothic.
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Written by MetalManic on 13.02.2020 at 21:55
Written by Bad English on 13.02.2020 at 16:50
Suomi metal has nothing to do whit gothic doom, its gothic rock, Dead rock whit melankolisk touch as to die for, lullacry, him...
The point being the sound is reminiscent of what was at one time commonly referred to as 'suomi'. Immediately specific bands (sentenced, Charon, For My Pain) came to mind when the subgenre was noted. As you said, To/Die/For is indeed an example. Never do I really consider Insomnium, etc. to be under that specific genre umbrella (despite the translation essentially being Finnish Metal), but when the word suomi is presented to describe a particular sound, my ears perk up.
Funny enough, 17 bands fall under said subgenre in the metalstorm band search. These are spot on.
Sentenced is not suommi
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14.02.2020 - 15:14Rating: 8
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Sentenced is not suommi
In the context of comparison stated above, they were not entirely that 'suomi sound' but post '96-'97 they could indeed be partially included in this (seemingly blurred) category. One need only listen to tracks like 'You Are The One', 'Killing Me Killing You', 'Lower The Flags', or 'Drown Together' to unquestionably hear what is being discussed.
That being said, I too sense these influences in this reviewed album. It's really quite nice to get that feeling. It's not leaping at me like those of past sounds, but perhaps with repeat listens it will become more apparent. Then again, any indication of resurrection of that era is warmly (or coldly) welcomed.
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Written by MetalManic on 14.02.2020 at 15:14
Sentenced is not suommi
In the context of comparison stated above, they were not entirely that 'suomi sound' but post '96-'97 they could indeed be partially included in this (seemingly blurred) category. One need only listen to tracks like 'You Are The One', 'Killing Me Killing You', 'Lower The Flags', or 'Drown Together' to unquestionably hear what is being discussed.
That being said, I too sense these influences in this reviewed album. It's really quite nice to get that feeling. It's not leaping at me like those of past sounds, but perhaps with repeat listens it will become more apparent. Then again, any indication of resurrection of that era is warmly (or coldly) welcomed.
Well but Sentenced jumped higher as suomi bands and its not typical Finish gothic rock acts to me , so
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14.02.2020 - 19:10Rating: 8
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Written by Bad English on 14.02.2020 at 16:35
Well but Sentenced jumped higher as suomi bands and its not typical Finish gothic rock acts to me , so
That they did. Truly they do stand apart despite the touched on elements in my last reply.
I'm curious to know if you remember having voted for Sentenced in the 2005 MS Awards in their respective category. That year they won. Their final album no less and by a landslide. Also, the category was 'Suomi Metal' so it appears to have been widely accepted around here that that was the category Sentenced belonged. I suspect that at the time there would have been little argument of the matter.
As the years have passed, so too have the defining lines of that particular subgenre. It's safe to say that perhaps, at this point, it's mainly subjective as to what suomi actually is (or was).
It's a fun discussion nonetheless.
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Written by MetalManic on 14.02.2020 at 19:10
That they did. Truly they do stand apart despite the touched on elements in my last reply.
I'm curious to know if you remember having voted for Sentenced in the 2005 MS Awards in their respective category. That year they won. Their final album no less and by a landslide. Also, the category was 'Suomi Metal' so it appears to have been widely accepted around here that that was the category Sentenced belonged. I suspect that at the time there would have been little argument of the matter.
As the years have passed, so too have the defining lines of that particular subgenre. It's safe to say that perhaps, at this point, it's mainly subjective as to what suomi actually is (or was).
It's a fun discussion nonetheless.
Well i disagree and 2005 hmmm no i dont remrmber
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I like this so much more than Wolfheart.
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Written by nikarg on 20.02.2020 at 10:02
I like this so much more than Wolfheart.
Same
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Written by nikarg on 20.02.2020 at 10:02
I like this so much more than Wolfheart.
same
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