albatros
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16.11.2009 - 10:58Rating: 7
I enjoyed reading this. You turned a shallow topic into an essay.
I agree, the music industry might delay the coming out of more talented bands by its conservative distribution of record contracts. However the majority of listeners tends to go with big names, maybe driven by the hope that a little amount of the artists' fame will stick to them. "Look, I've bought the new Slayer album" ..
Fame is equalled with quality, see the MS100 for this ... I've seen quite a number of talented bands play in front of a depressingly small number of listeners. These bands got their record contracts, but it often took many years and countless live gigs before sales figures became worth mentioning.
So it's not just "the industry", but also "the audience", that is part of this plot. The only way to change this is to actively search for new talents and spread the word. I think this is partly what Metalstorm is about.
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Written by albatros on 16.11.2009 at 10:58
Fame is equalled with quality, see the MS100 for this ... I've seen quite a number of talented bands play in front of a depressingly small number of listeners. These bands got their record contracts, but it often took many years and countless live gigs before sales figures became worth mentioning.
That's true. There are many good undeground bands especially in USA, but without any media support they don't have chances with giants of this business.
Back on topic:
This album don't have power, sound and any memorable melodies. Orchestral parts and vocal are nice, but guitar is just boring
If someone want some really good symphonic power metal without female singers, check "Bible of The Beast" by Powerwolf
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Enissa
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16.11.2009 - 13:12Rating: 4
This is by far is the most nice reviews I've ever read, thanks Jeff.
and I agree with everything I read, although Symphonic Power is my favorite genre, but this album is so boring that I couldnt hear more than three songs, bad riffs and aweful vocals and no memorable moments in songs..
on the other hand, the "Conclusion" part is so right, I mean there are alot good bands (especially here in the Middle-east) that can't release even a demo not an album!! and bands like these get the chance to release an album every year....
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Enissa
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16.11.2009 - 13:15Rating: 4
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If someone want some really good symphonic power metal without female singers, check "Bible of The Beast" by Powerwolf
I agree with you, this is a great symphonic Power album without female vocals!!
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Powerwolf is so full of cheese tho...
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Written by Ag Fox on 16.11.2009 at 14:52
Powerwolf is so full of cheese tho...
But differences between them and HH are so huge
Powerwolf are right now the best band in symphonic power
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Written by [user id=29268] on 16.11.2009 at 17:07
Written by Ag Fox on 16.11.2009 at 14:52
Powerwolf is so full of cheese tho...
But differences between them and HH are so huge
Powerwolf are right now the best band in symphonic power
I agree with Powerwolf being better than Holy Hell, though it being the best symphonic power metal band? I think for this year both Fairyland and Dark Moor are better. For some reason Powerwolf made me cringe.
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Written by Enissa on 16.11.2009 at 13:12
this album is so boring that I couldnt hear more than three songs
I skipped in the middle of the second
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Enissa
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16.11.2009 - 20:00Rating: 4
Written by Ag Fox on 16.11.2009 at 17:36
Written by [user id=29268] on 16.11.2009 at 17:07
Written by Ag Fox on 16.11.2009 at 14:52
Powerwolf is so full of cheese tho...
But differences between them and HH are so huge
Powerwolf are right now the best band in symphonic power
I agree with Powerwolf being better than Holy Hell, though it being the best symphonic power metal band? I think for this year both Fairyland and Dark Moor are better. For some reason Powerwolf made me cringe.
I agree, this year showed that both Fairyland and Dark Moor are great bands in this genre (especially Dark Moor) with the release of their best albums yet...
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corrupt With a lowercase c AdminPosts: 3727 |
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Isn't this band of of the Magic Circle Records' first contracts? At leastm I vaguely remember seeing them on the lineup of the first mcm festival. In that case I don't have any more questions your honor.
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Daggon Underpaid M.D.
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I listened some songs in their myspace and I found them annoying and boring, I don't know too much about Power metal this days but this album... duh, no comments.
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Written by Irritable Ted on 17.11.2009 at 12:49
I was really hoping to like this album so that I could argue with the tone of the review, we get it you don't like power metal or symphonic metal. I do and I don't really care what anybody else says to put it down. I like what I like and that's all that matters to me.
I lol'd a bit because seeing Jeff's collection I see many power/symphonic metal bands so I really doubt he's a hater of the genre. And I also doubt it because he's a staff member and I trust the fact that the staff members can't be fanboys/haters in their reviews... At least not without some good explanations like the ones posted in the review...
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Jeff Freaky Admin ElitePosts: 7078 |
17.11.2009 - 13:51Rating: 4
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Yes yes Im not Marcel I have nothing against Power Metal (really) but I like good one, not bad one (and I hate when it's done just to be done... and sadly a lot of bands (and labels) did that lately).
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Jeff Freaky Admin ElitePosts: 7078 |
17.11.2009 - 14:10Rating: 4
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That's even worst in France.
Now I'm sorry but I saw a lot more of Nightwish clones and Euro Power bad bands lately than good Thrash, Doom or Progressive Stuff (not saying that we don't have too but not so much). And I can listen to and discover a LOT of new bands at work and via Metal Storm so with some objectivity, I think that I'm not so wrong.
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wrathchild StaffPosts: 14090 |
That's exactly how I feel about this album. It's not bad but it's so standard that it feels terribly uninspired. The lyrics are basic, the guitars are good (Joe Stump!) but nothing is memorable (Joe Stump...)
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Slayer666
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Man, from the very first 30 seconds of listening to the song Armagedon on YouTube and reading some comments there, I am amazed how perfectly Jeff described not only the album, but the current state in the music industry.
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Lord_Regnier
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Congratulations for a spot-on review and a good analysis of the metal industry, especially when it comes to Euroflowermetal.
"We saw lately that a lot of bands chose to play simple and absolutely tedious and repetitive Power Metal to catch potential fans who don't even try to listen to other kind of music and buy everything in the genre to be happy".
It wasn't like that years ago, but PM is an abyss of mediocrity nowadays.
Always the same kind of hard rock-ish, pop-ish, simple, basic, boring and mediocre garbage that is not metal but a mockery of it, a disgrace. An insult to what PM once has been.
And, like you seem to say, the source of the problem is the fans of this genre, because they swallow every shit the industry throws at them, while not caring to look for decent metal music.
Power/speed Metal is pretty much dead today and it happened because of the fans who can't be critical for the sake of their lives and all those ones who only happen to like some soft pseudo-metal bands but listen to radio stuff otherwise and not to anything more extreme.
"Another perfect example of a good marketing method in the music industry is the numerous so called "Symphonic Metal bands with female singers",
Yeah, put a hot chick on the first line, so it will be a nice eye-candy during gigs. Even if female vocalists most of the time don't fit at all in metal. It's pure marketing and lowers metal to the rank of pop, in a sense, as it's exactly the same superficial attitude as for pop stars: looks over talent.
All this, and many other things too, make me despise PM nowadays. On many aspects, this genre is more like another kind of pop music than a metal genre.
P.S. I listened to the songs on their Myspace page (fast-forwarding many parts). This shit is even ten times more boring than I thought it would.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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Now i simply must go and listen to this album
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Lord_Regnier
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Written by Ellrohir on 26.11.2009 at 13:23
Now i simply must go and listen to this album
Even if you enjoy PM in general, I highly doubt you will like this.
I hate recent Edguy, Power Quest, etc but, imo, Holyhell is even worse than them.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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Well i have to say, you are right...this is really bad stuff even for me
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SIL0KKI
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As former member of Unholy (ex Holy Hell) i find this good promoting for us, as old Holy Hell demos are out in few months (gatefold double pic-LP's). this is good promoting for us as they use our ex - name..:banger:
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albatros
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31.10.2010 - 16:43Rating: 7
Written by albatros on 16.11.2009 at 10:58
I enjoyed reading this. You turned a shallow topic into an essay.
I agree, the music industry might delay the coming out of more talented bands by its conservative distribution of record contracts. However the majority of listeners tends to go with big names, maybe driven by the hope that a little amount of the artists' fame will stick to them. "Look, I've bought the new Slayer album" ..
Fame is equalled with quality, see the MS100 for this ... I've seen quite a number of talented bands play in front of a depressingly small number of listeners. These bands got their record contracts, but it often took many years and countless live gigs before sales figures became worth mentioning.
So it's not just "the industry", but also "the audience", that is part of this plot. The only way to change this is to actively search for new talents and spread the word. I think this is partly what Metalstorm is about.
Almost one year after I wrote this, I need to make an amendment. I still stand to these my general remarks, but for me they are no longer applicable to this band.
One week ago I heard them play in Belgium and enjoyed their show very much. They really touched me and got under my skin.
It was their melange of bombast, steadily driving rock rythms and yearning melancholy that highly appealed to me. It was pretty much the same feeling that made me a fan of Manowar in their early days or of Grave Digger also quite a while ago.
The female vocals are simply of very good quality. Her low voice is especially strong and quite unique. And her warmhearted stage presence is really something to behold.
The album is not quite up to their live performance, but still a very nice souvenir to the gig. The number of real filler tracks is remarkably low. The song structure is straighforward, but the sing along factor is high and the songs are filled with catchy melodies.
The lyrics are indeed as generic as can be, but power metal was never known for its poetic strength. However it is quite possible to have fun with the instrumental part of the band's output, as was nicely demonstrated last Sunday on the Metal Female Voices Festival.
So, that will teach me to write about something without own hands-on experience. I'd like to encourage fans of both power metal and female fronted rock to try out this band on CD or live, at least if you don't mind a bit of cheese and your intellectual stakes aren't set too high.
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Valentin B Iconoclast
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I had to suffer this band open for (who else?) Manowar back in 2009. Four good things about their show: they played a decent version of Holy Diver, the vocalist is hot as hell, and the guitars and drums are good (the drummer is Manowar's former drummer Rhino).
The most exciting part of their show was when Joey DeMaio appeared out of nowhere to announce the band. That's how "good" their show was.
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Spacerunner
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15.07.2012 - 02:01Rating: 7
Their music is no way that bad or something. And for those who don't care about lack of originality or different marketing things and are purely into the good music it's a gift. Easy-listening metal with wonderful atmosphere and catchy choruses. Maybe it's too long. I would make it 3-4 songs shorter to make it more consistent.
And "The Fall" is on par with best heavy-metal ballads ever written.
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